Overrated 9ers that need to go..

I hope Harbaugh realizes that this team is more built for a 4-3 and make the switch.

Originally posted by jays9ers:
I love how everyone says we're so talented blahhhblaaaah blaaa... The truth is we lack speed at crucial posistions and overall talent at others. We need upgrades all over this roster. These are just a few guys who have been supremely overrated by this team and fans..

1:Dashon Goldson He was screaming last off season that he was the next Ronnie Lott and how he was gonna make mad money of the FA market... Yea he's an average player that isn't a game changer.

2: Franklin, Aubrayo One year wonder... Wouldn't bring him back for more than 3 or 4 mil a season.. I'd rather switch back to a 4-3 but thats for another thread

3:Nate Clements.... We've all bashed him on this board so he's not really overrated by us. But he was never worth the contract we paid him. I try him at safety for a reduced price..

4: Parys Harlson Had one decent year signed him to a decent contract and he sucked..

5:Manny Lawson.. Had his best season to date but still isn't what we thought he would be.. Makes me wonder how he may have thrived in a 4-3....

6: Frank Gore Yep I sad it.. And said it 2 seasons ago. Gore isn't overrated but we put too much focus on him. I posted that we should trade him after his huge year in 2006 with Norve and the gang cause I new we still were years away from a superbowl... I got roasted for the most part but look where we at now.. An aging HB with a bad hip.... Shoulda got what could for him while we had the chance. Cut throat like the organization use to be....

I like Manny Lawson and Franklin---but not at high money---Lawson maybe $ 2 million a year and Franklin $ 3 million a year.

Gore---I am not sure he will fit the Harbaugh system--but his trade value will be low now with his age and injury history----so keep him unless we draft someone in the early rounds that looks good.

Dashon Goldson is not worth big money---supposedly his foot was sore--but that never got better---i would let him go.

Clements---resign him only for a lot less money and no guaranteed money and try him at safety---if it doesn't work out--release him in the final cutdown to 53.

Parys Haralson---I would cut him also if we can get someone better like Lamar Woodley.

Why do people want Morgan gone? he's a 6th round pick puttin up 700 yards behind Alex and Troy Smith. Seems pretty solid to me. The only guys I would consider cutting is Clements, Ice and Haralson.

Originally posted by vaden:
I wouldn't say Gore needs to go but I think he's overrated. He's not a top 5 or even top 10 back anymore. He's decent, average. The injury risk is just too great to depend on him to run a 1-back offense. He needs to accept a legit 2-back rotation like most of the league runs, and even then it may be best to get something for him now before his decline becomes more apparent.

I challenge you to name 10 backs that are better than Gore.

In fact, Gore is definitely a top 5 back in the league when you look at the whole package - running, receiving, and blocking.

It's a shame not some Niner fans don't respect the work that this guy has put in.

we have the worst group of cb's in the league, draft peterson with the #7 pick.

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by vaden:
I wouldn't say Gore needs to go but I think he's overrated. He's not a top 5 or even top 10 back anymore. He's decent, average. The injury risk is just too great to depend on him to run a 1-back offense. He needs to accept a legit 2-back rotation like most of the league runs, and even then it may be best to get something for him now before his decline becomes more apparent.

I challenge you to name 10 backs that are better than Gore.

In fact, Gore is definitely a top 5 back in the league when you look at the whole package - running, receiving, and blocking.

It's a shame not some Niner fans don't respect the work that this guy has put in.

I totally agree. Besides, he probably wouldn't be so injury-prone if we didn't run him up the gut every first and second down.

Originally posted by sfninerfanMax:

Originally posted by jays9ers:
I love how everyone says we're so talented blahhhblaaaah blaaa... The truth is we lack speed at crucial posistions and overall talent at others. We need upgrades all over this roster. These are just a few guys who have been supremely overrated by this team and fans..

1:Dashon Goldson He was screaming last off season that he was the next Ronnie Lott and how he was gonna make mad money of the FA market... Yea he's an average player that isn't a game changer.

2: Franklin, Aubrayo One year wonder... Wouldn't bring him back for more than 3 or 4 mil a season.. I'd rather switch back to a 4-3 but thats for another thread

3:Nate Clements.... We've all bashed him on this board so he's not really overrated by us. But he was never worth the contract we paid him. I try him at safety for a reduced price..

4: Parys Harlson Had one decent year signed him to a decent contract and he sucked..

5:Manny Lawson.. Had his best season to date but still isn't what we thought he would be.. Makes me wonder how he may have thrived in a 4-3....

6: Frank Gore Yep I sad it.. And said it 2 seasons ago. Gore isn't overrated but we put too much focus on him. I posted that we should trade him after his huge year in 2006 with Norve and the gang cause I new we still were years away from a superbowl... I got roasted for the most part but look where we at now.. An aging HB with a bad hip.... Shoulda got what could for him while we had the chance. Cut throat like the organization use to be....

I like Manny Lawson and Franklin---but not at high money---Lawson maybe $ 2 million a year and Franklin $ 3 million a year.

Gore---I am not sure he will fit the Harbaugh system--but his trade value will be low now with his age and injury history----so keep him unless we draft someone in the early rounds that looks good.

Dashon Goldson is not worth big money---supposedly his foot was sore--but that never got better---i would let him go.

Clements---resign him only for a lot less money and no guaranteed money and try him at safety---if it doesn't work out--release him in the final cutdown to 53.

Parys Haralson---I would cut him also if we can get someone better like Lamar Woodley.

You're not sure that Gore will fit the Harbaugh system? You do realize that his offense helped make a power back, Toby Gerhart, into a Heisman finalist?

I happen to think that Gore will THRIVE in this offense. The power running game is not gone with Harbaugh - it will get better.

Jim Harbaugh

Originally posted by Schulzy:

Originally posted by sfninerfanMax:

Originally posted by jays9ers:
I love how everyone says we're so talented blahhhblaaaah blaaa... The truth is we lack speed at crucial posistions and overall talent at others. We need upgrades all over this roster. These are just a few guys who have been supremely overrated by this team and fans..

1:Dashon Goldson He was screaming last off season that he was the next Ronnie Lott and how he was gonna make mad money of the FA market... Yea he's an average player that isn't a game changer.

2: Franklin, Aubrayo One year wonder... Wouldn't bring him back for more than 3 or 4 mil a season.. I'd rather switch back to a 4-3 but thats for another thread

3:Nate Clements.... We've all bashed him on this board so he's not really overrated by us. But he was never worth the contract we paid him. I try him at safety for a reduced price..

4: Parys Harlson Had one decent year signed him to a decent contract and he sucked..

5:Manny Lawson.. Had his best season to date but still isn't what we thought he would be.. Makes me wonder how he may have thrived in a 4-3....

6: Frank Gore Yep I sad it.. And said it 2 seasons ago. Gore isn't overrated but we put too much focus on him. I posted that we should trade him after his huge year in 2006 with Norve and the gang cause I new we still were years away from a superbowl... I got roasted for the most part but look where we at now.. An aging HB with a bad hip.... Shoulda got what could for him while we had the chance. Cut throat like the organization use to be....

I like Manny Lawson and Franklin---but not at high money---Lawson maybe $ 2 million a year and Franklin $ 3 million a year.

Gore---I am not sure he will fit the Harbaugh system--but his trade value will be low now with his age and injury history----so keep him unless we draft someone in the early rounds that looks good.

Dashon Goldson is not worth big money---supposedly his foot was sore--but that never got better---i would let him go.

Clements---resign him only for a lot less money and no guaranteed money and try him at safety---if it doesn't work out--release him in the final cutdown to 53.

Parys Haralson---I would cut him also if we can get someone better like Lamar Woodley.

You're not sure that Gore will fit the Harbaugh system? You do realize that his offense helped make a power back, Toby Gerhart, into a Heisman finalist?

I happen to think that Gore will THRIVE in this offense. The power running game is not gone with Harbaugh - it will get better.

I hope Goldson didnt say he was gonna be the next Ronnie Lott because Im sure Ronnie would make a special visit to Santa Clara and deliver a forearm shiver to Goldson dome.

I don't think Gore is overrated, but it's not like he's untouchable.

Originally posted by niner4life21:
I hope Harbaugh realizes that this team is more built for a 4-3 and make the switch.

I just don't see how the front 7 is built more for the 4-3. The 3-4 seems fine to me, the problem is the secondary and consistent pass rush at OLB

Originally posted by jays9ers:
I love how everyone says we're so talented blahhhblaaaah blaaa... The truth is we lack speed at crucial posistions and overall talent at others. We need upgrades all over this roster. These are just a few guys who have been supremely overrated by this team and fans..

1:Dashon Goldson He was screaming last off season that he was the next Ronnie Lott and how he was gonna make mad money of the FA market... Yea he's an average player that isn't a game changer.

2: Franklin, Aubrayo One year wonder... Wouldn't bring him back for more than 3 or 4 mil a season.. I'd rather switch back to a 4-3 but thats for another thread

3:Nate Clements.... We've all bashed him on this board so he's not really overrated by us. But he was never worth the contract we paid him. I try him at safety for a reduced price..

4: Parys Harlson Had one decent year signed him to a decent contract and he sucked..

5:Manny Lawson.. Had his best season to date but still isn't what we thought he would be.. Makes me wonder how he may have thrived in a 4-3....

6: Frank Gore Yep I sad it.. And said it 2 seasons ago. Gore isn't overrated but we put too much focus on him. I posted that we should trade him after his huge year in 2006 with Norve and the gang cause I new we still were years away from a superbowl... I got roasted for the most part but look where we at now.. An aging HB with a bad hip.... Shoulda got what could for him while we had the chance. Cut throat like the organization use to be....

you were making sense until the last 2. Manny Lawson is so underrated. people talk crap about him all the time, but hes become a very solid OLB. i have no idea where all the hate stems from. check this out, and look whos on top:

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2010/11/19/pass-rushing-productivity-whos-making-the-most-of-their-opportunities/

Originally posted by ea_thegreat:

Originally posted by niner4life21:
I hope Harbaugh realizes that this team is more built for a 4-3 and make the switch.

I just don't see how the front 7 is built more for the 4-3. The 3-4 seems fine to me, the problem is the secondary and consistent pass rush at OLB

Agreed. Where do people keep getting this idea?

Originally posted by maximill15:
i hate to say it, but getting something for gore while he has value is prob the right move! he's the best pro, hate to see him go, but gotta cash in at your highest

You don't trade a guy like Gore until you have his replacement, and by replacement I mean someone as good or better, on the roster. And as of right now, we don't have that guy.