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Is Parys Haralson the worst player on our defense?
Dec 30, 2010 at 10:53 AM
- Memphis9er
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Goldson and it isn't even close.
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:00 AM
- sincalfaithful
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Goldson and it isn't even close.
it's closer than you think. Haralsons suckage goes unnoticed because of the other lb's he has playing around him
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by sincalfaithful:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Goldson and it isn't even close.
it's closer than you think. Haralsons suckage goes unnoticed because of the other lb's he has playing around him
I don't think so bro, Goldson is by far the weakest link. He cannot tackle or cover and is constantly out of position. I do not think Haralson is a great player, bu he isn't playing his natural position and sucking like Goldson.
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:04 AM
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1. Goldson
2a. Haralson
2b. Clements
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2a. Haralson
2b. Clements
-9fA
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by sincalfaithful:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Goldson and it isn't even close.
it's closer than you think. Haralsons suckage goes unnoticed because of the other lb's he has playing around him
I don't think so bro, Goldson is by far the weakest link. He cannot tackle or cover and is constantly out of position. I do not think Haralson is a great player, bu he isn't playing his natural position and sucking like Goldson.
Yea he doens't fit in a 3-4 at all really.
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by sincalfaithful:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Goldson and it isn't even close.
it's closer than you think. Haralsons suckage goes unnoticed because of the other lb's he has playing around him
I don't think so bro, Goldson is by far the weakest link. He cannot tackle or cover and is constantly out of position. I do not think Haralson is a great player, bu he isn't playing his natural position and sucking like Goldson.
Yea he doens't fit in a 3-4 at all really.
He was one of the top defensive ends in the SEC, in a 4-3 defense.
Dec 30, 2010 at 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
Goldson.
They are tied for worst or at least most over rated IMO.
Dec 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM
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Soap, franklin, haralson, goldson, lawson (in a 3-4), are replaceable. If the niners use a 4-3, I would keep lawson.
Dec 30, 2010 at 1:52 PM
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Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
1. Goldson
2a. Haralson
2b. Clements
-9fA
Dec 30, 2010 at 2:00 PM
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Originally posted by backontop:Originally posted by Sims84:Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
goldson sucks ass this year too. no one on defense except for spikes and willis can actually tackle someone the first time. coaching is the reason. too busy worrying about punching people in the mouth.
Clements is the best tackling corner in the NFL (toss up between him and Winfield) too bad he just can't cover as well as he tackles
that's why I want to move him to FS with Mays at SS
you are right
Dec 30, 2010 at 2:01 PM
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Originally posted by Sims84:Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:Originally posted by Sims84:
He is a physical aggressive corner which means he needs to be AT the LOS getting his hands on the WR (he owned Fitz and Boldin because of this). He is not fast enough or agile enough to be playing 10 yards off and having to react to the WR's move. He needs to dictate the WR's move by controlling him at the LOS but we for some reason don't play to our players strengths
I agree with you, Sims. But, I'll concede that Nate isn't getting any younger and he's got to realize that he can't rely on his diminishing speed and quickness. He's still plenty quick and fast, but he's got to start compensating for the fact that he's not quite as formidible in the raw talent department as he once was. When the legs begin to betray you, you've got to use your brain to compensate a bit. Clearly, I think that means being a bit less aggressive.
On a final note. My disgust with Dashon Goldson knows no bounds. The guy can't cover and he sure as hell can't tackle. Nate, on the other hand, is a fearless tackler that simply doesn't miss. Moreover, his cover skills are outstanding for a safety. Were I either the new GM or HC, I'd give that move some serious thought.
I agree he needs to be smarter BUT at the same time, because he isn't getting any younger, controlling the LOS will drastically help. It will put him in a better position to defend the pass.
Safety is not a bad option at all, but he will have to take a pay cut because that is one EXPENSIVE inexperienced safety if you ask me. Goldson was a complete let down this yearI was actually looking forward to him breaking out this year but wow, did he ever drop off. Goldson has to go and Reggie and Nate can compete for that FS spot. Mays should be ready to go next year
yep
Dec 30, 2010 at 5:37 PM
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Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
1. Goldson
2a. Haralson
2b. Clements
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1. Haralson
1B. Clements
2. Goldson
Dec 30, 2010 at 7:27 PM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by lamontb:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by sincalfaithful:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Goldson and it isn't even close.
it's closer than you think. Haralsons suckage goes unnoticed because of the other lb's he has playing around him
I don't think so bro, Goldson is by far the weakest link. He cannot tackle or cover and is constantly out of position. I do not think Haralson is a great player, bu he isn't playing his natural position and sucking like Goldson.
Yea he doens't fit in a 3-4 at all really.
He was one of the top defensive ends in the SEC, in a 4-3 defense.
He's constantly outran by running backs and even qb's (mcnabb) I'm not saying that goldson is good by any means but haralson sucks just as much
Dec 30, 2010 at 7:32 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Among the three worst starting players, he tops that list.
Worst starters:
1) Haralson
2) Goldson
3) Sadly.. Clements goes here.
And there it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM
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Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:Originally posted by BubbaParisMVP:Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
Goldson.
Couldn't tackle my dead grandmother.
Couldn't cover a pickle jar
But he could hit the pickle jar with his shoulder then fall down while the pickle jar teetered past.
Couldn't cover his ass buried in sand!



I was actually looking forward to him breaking out this year but wow, did he ever drop off. Goldson has to go and Reggie and Nate can compete for that FS spot. Mays should be ready to go next year