Greg Manusky Stay or Go

Originally posted by Joecool:
Manusky = FAIL.

Bring in Mora Jr. and a very aggressive 4-3.

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Manusky = FAIL.

Bring in Mora Jr. and a very aggressive 4-3.

Mora Jr= FAIL

Not at Defensive Coordinator.

YES at Defensive Coordinator!

Where did he fail at DC? He comes with complicated blitzes from the DB position. He actually had our crap talent of a defense with Ulbrich/D. Smith playing very well and we applied a lot of pressure. The only problem at that time was that our DBs were worse than they are now.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
DUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE!


DUDE!!!!!!!!!


IF WE HAD A STABLE OFFENSE , WE WOULD BE BLOWING OUT TEAMS AND EASILY WALKING INTO THE PLAYOFFS!

THAT'S WHY ALOT OF EXPERTS,I.E. MIKE AND MIKE IN THE MORNING, HAD US GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL!

THE SUPER BOWL!

epic fail. Our defense stinks...the playcalling stinks. When u have matt ryan inside his own 15 yrd line...THE DEFENSE SHOULD NOT LET HIM MARCH DOWN THE FIELD WITH EASE..TO SET UP A GAME WINNING FG..SAME WITH THE SAINTS...WAKE UP MAN

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
How many game winning drives did our D give up this year?

GTFO

4

saints, falcons, eagles....and the panthers

And the Rams.

Christ..I forgot about the lambs...ok 5 game winning drives

Originally posted by Joecool:
Manusky = FAIL.

Bring in Mora Jr. and a very aggressive 4-3.

mora jr was here....not again

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Manusky = FAIL.

Bring in Mora Jr. and a very aggressive 4-3.

Mora Jr= FAIL

Not at Defensive Coordinator.

YES at Defensive Coordinator!

DC 1999-2003

1999: 28.3 PPG (2nd worst in the NFL) 355 YPG (4th worst in the NFL, Dead last in pass yards per game)

2000: 26 PPG (28th best), 356 YPG (29th best),

2001: 9th in PPG, okay.

2002: 18th in PPG, 14th in YPG. Uh

2003: 21st in PPG, 13th in YPG

Theres nothing special about Jim Mora jr.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheGoldenState:

Originally posted by Byisgod:
Bring in Wade Phillips. Great defensive mind and will never get another shot at a head coaching gig.

Why does everyone love Wade Phillips' defense? It was extremely vanilla when he was HC of the cowboys.
I looked at his defenses stats over the years when he was a DC and he wasn't even in the top 15 in PPG one year.

exactly

Wade's track record as Head Coach and DC are two different things. He's a good DC but a bad HC. He has the same problem as Norv.

Originally posted by TheGoldenState:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Manusky = FAIL.

Bring in Mora Jr. and a very aggressive 4-3.

Mora Jr= FAIL

Not at Defensive Coordinator.

YES at Defensive Coordinator!

DC 1999-2003

1999: 28.3 PPG (2nd worst in the NFL) 355 YPG (4th worst in the NFL, Dead last in pass yards per game)

2000: 26 PPG (28th best), 356 YPG (29th best),

2001: 9th in PPG, okay.

2002: 18th in PPG, 14th in YPG. Uh

2003: 21st in PPG, 13th in YPG

Theres nothing special about Jim Mora jr.

I stand corrected! But he didn't have ANY great talent besides BY. I think he can do some things with the front 7 we have now.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Manusky = FAIL.

Bring in Mora Jr. and a very aggressive 4-3.

Mora Jr= FAIL

Not at Defensive Coordinator.

YES at Defensive Coordinator!

Where did he fail at DC? He comes with complicated blitzes from the DB position. He actually had our crap talent of a defense with Ulbrich/D. Smith playing very well and we applied a lot of pressure. The only problem at that time was that our DBs were worse than they are now.

[ Edited by ObePwnD on Dec 28, 2010 at 12:44:44 ]

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
How many game winning drives did our D give up this year?

GTFO

4

saints, falcons, eagles....and the panthers

And the Rams.

Christ..I forgot about the lambs...ok 5 game winning drives

I think we could even say 6, considering they allowed the Falcons to do it TWICE, once before the Clements pick and then again after

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:

Originally posted by jones49:
Unsure but Nate Clements needs to go. I'm sick of his s**t.

I know it's not popular to say but I like Clements.... As the nickel CB. He is getting paid too much and will take a pay cut or GTFO lol. But he is a animal when it comes to tackling and matches up well with nickel sized WR's. Also who would be our CB's? Spencer, Brown, a free agent, a rookie? Starting Spencer or Brown is a joke. A free agent, who? At what price? A rookie? 2nd rounder at best, would starting him be smart? 1st rounder Joe Haden struggled on his first year.
My point is Clements should stay IF he takes a pay cut.

I would love to hear an educated Anti Clements response......

1. He cannot play man coverage
2. He is an inconsistent tackler (recall the Roddy White game last year)
3. He cannot keep pace in the slot, so although he has size over nickel/slot receivers since he cannot play bump and run his size is negated and he lacks the speed to run with them in the open field

I always thought Clements would be a better FS than CB, even when he was in Buffalo. Our secondary is a mess and frankly I'd like to see a draft ala 1981 where we essentially draft an entire secondary and start them as rookies.

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:

Originally posted by jones49:
Unsure but Nate Clements needs to go. I'm sick of his s**t.

I know it's not popular to say but I like Clements.... As the nickel CB. He is getting paid too much and will take a pay cut or GTFO lol. But he is a animal when it comes to tackling and matches up well with nickel sized WR's. Also who would be our CB's? Spencer, Brown, a free agent, a rookie? Starting Spencer or Brown is a joke. A free agent, who? At what price? A rookie? 2nd rounder at best, would starting him be smart? 1st rounder Joe Haden struggled on his first year.
My point is Clements should stay IF he takes a pay cut.

I would love to hear an educated Anti Clements response......

1. He cannot play man coverage
2. He is an inconsistent tackler (recall the Roddy White game last year)
3. He cannot keep pace in the slot, so although he has size over nickel/slot receivers since he cannot play bump and run his size is negated and he lacks the speed to run with them in the open field

I always thought Clements would be a better FS than CB, even when he was in Buffalo. Our secondary is a mess and frankly I'd like to see a draft ala 1981 where we essentially draft an entire secondary and start them as rookies.

Maybe #3, but not $1 and #2.

First he excels in man coverage, it's when he's in whatever Mausky's retarded zone scheme is that he has trouble. That's not to say he's great in man coverage, he's not the best, but he's pretty good.

Second, he's VERY good at tackling. That's his strength. Ya, he didn't make the play on Roddy White and he's not going to make every play, just like every DB that has ever played the game. They aren't perfect, that DB doesn't exist. EVERY NFL DB misses tackles and gets burned.

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:

Originally posted by jones49:
Unsure but Nate Clements needs to go. I'm sick of his s**t.

I know it's not popular to say but I like Clements.... As the nickel CB. He is getting paid too much and will take a pay cut or GTFO lol. But he is a animal when it comes to tackling and matches up well with nickel sized WR's. Also who would be our CB's? Spencer, Brown, a free agent, a rookie? Starting Spencer or Brown is a joke. A free agent, who? At what price? A rookie? 2nd rounder at best, would starting him be smart? 1st rounder Joe Haden struggled on his first year.
My point is Clements should stay IF he takes a pay cut.

I would love to hear an educated Anti Clements response......

1. He cannot play man coverage
2. He is an inconsistent tackler (recall the Roddy White game last year)
3. He cannot keep pace in the slot, so although he has size over nickel/slot receivers since he cannot play bump and run his size is negated and he lacks the speed to run with them in the open field

I always thought Clements would be a better FS than CB, even when he was in Buffalo. Our secondary is a mess and frankly I'd like to see a draft ala 1981 where we essentially draft an entire secondary and start them as rookies.

Maybe #3, but not $1 and #2.

First he excels in man coverage, it's when he's in whatever Mausky's retarded zone scheme is that he has trouble. That's not to say he's great in man coverage, he's not the best, but he's pretty good.

Second, he's VERY good at tackling. That's his strength. Ya, he didn't make the play on Roddy White and he's not going to make every play, just like every DB that has ever played the game. They aren't perfect, that DB doesn't exist. EVERY NFL DB misses tackles and gets burned.

All those double moves Nate bites on comes when he's in man coverage not in a zone. i wouldn't say he excels at coverage. If that were teh case they could leave him on a island allday. I think his big problem was calling himself lock down. He's an average CB, just not elite or top 10.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Matter of fact,why am I in the back on Brain detail?

F*ck this.

You're cleaning the brains, I'm cleaning the windows.









IT'S THE OFFENSE AND THE OFFENSE COORDINATOR WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

Originally posted by ObePwnD:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheGoldenState:

Originally posted by Byisgod:
Bring in Wade Phillips. Great defensive mind and will never get another shot at a head coaching gig.

Why does everyone love Wade Phillips' defense? It was extremely vanilla when he was HC of the cowboys.
I looked at his defenses stats over the years when he was a DC and he wasn't even in the top 15 in PPG one year.

exactly

Wade's track record as Head Coach and DC are two different things. He's a good DC but a bad HC. He has the same problem as Norv.

and nolan


i agree as DC i would love to have mike nolan or wade phillips i like 3-4 D