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Article from F. Outsiders on the 49ers win
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM
- Gavintech
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All good points, unfortunately.
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM
- sachie23
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The 49ers won this football game because they avoided killer turnovers.
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:03 PM
- susweel
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They are Outsiders wtf do they know. We need articles from Insiders.
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:04 PM
- mjonags32
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That writer is as negative as the whiners on Niner Talk
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Brazilian49er:
Excellent, as usual. Some of the most interesting parts:
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Mike Singletary may be deliberately oblivious. I made sure to attend the Singletary press conference after the game, because I had lots of questions about the second-half turnaround that I was sure other folks were going to ask. One was on the pump-fake pass to Lloyd, which Singletary challenged and lost. Unfortunately, no one asked about it. He blamed two early second half timeouts on radio issues with Troy Smith's helmet, but credited Smith for doing "...a great job of keeping everyone in the huddle calm." Like it was a terrorist threat or something.
Regarding his gameplan, Singletary noted that "...[the Broncos] do a good job passing the ball, but we wanted to take away the run and leave them one-dimensional." Now, you may notice that the Broncos are dead last in the league in rushing DVOA. I understand DVOA isn't really Mike Singletary's thing. But they're last in rushing yards. They're last in rushing yards per carry, at 2.9 per pop before Sunday. Denver ended up running the ball 11 times with Knowshon Moreno for 40 yards, but Kyle Orton averaged better than nine yards per attempt while the 49ers were worrying about the run.
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Process is apparently irrelevant with the Niners if there's a good outcome. The game turned on a 38-yard catch by Delanie Walker that was born out of mad desperation; a scrambling Smith tossed up a prayer into double coverage as he was falling down, and Walker subtly (but clearly from our angle in the press box) pushed off on Brian Dawkins to come down with the ball on the Broncos 1.
Singletary, naturally, compared Smith to a very similar sort of player. "It's kinda like watching Brett Favre. I don't want to put [Smith] in the same light", Singletary said. "Sometimes he makes a decision and throws the ball ... I will say 'Be careful' but that's about it."
To his credit, Smith laughed off the Favre comparisons, but his logic in why he made the throw was a little weak. "What we work on is throwing to our guy and away from their guys. If there's a tight hole I can put the ball in, I trust that my guy is going to come down with the ball." Saying there's a tight window on a quick slant is one thing; lofting up a prayer into coverage is no hole.
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Players and coaches invent narratives for winning more than most media members. At least, the 49ers' guys did. Singletary, Smith, and Frank Gore each attributed the team's victory to an improvement on offense in the second half, when the Niners scored three touchdowns on three consecutive drives. Smith pulled out a quote about rhythm that blew my mind, saying "The reason why we came out today was to get in a rhythm and be in a rhythm ... You have to be able to keep your head down and stay on an even keel."
Why did the Niners score on three consecutive drives? Look at the drive log. Their first seven drives, which produced a total of three points, came with an average starting position of their own 21-yard line. The three touchdown drives came from their own 44-yard line (good return), Denver's 48-yard line (a terrible 21-yard punt from Britton Colquitt), and Denver's 18-yard line (a strip of a scrambling Kyle Orton by the impressive Manny Lawson). That is unquestionably the most important factor in why they scored, and yet field position never came up once in any of those post-game speeches.
Stolen from another website, but I thought it was funny
You know I normally reserve the genius tag for someone like Einstein, not a mere football coach. But Walsh was a "genius" at football; he understood the "Xs and Os" better than anyone during his day. We Niner fans are so fortunate to be blessed with another genius as Head Coach of the Niners yet again.
Singletary is brilliant. To us lesser intellects out there who think that his decisions regarding the QB position are confused, illogical, contradictory, indicative of a strutting egoist that can't reverse one of his own decisions once made because that would admit error, and outright stupid, please consider the following:
Recognizing that no NFL team can go anywhere without a gifted QB, he eschewed drafting a QB this year because we couldn't get Bradford, so he praised Alex as the next Pro Bowl QB of the Niners. He got rid of Shaun Hill because David Carr would be better. He released Nate Davis to the practice squad because he didn't have a good enough grasp of the complicated Niner offensive playbook and schemes and replaced him with Troy Smith who knows absolutely nothing about it. Even with Alex out with injury, he steadfastly doesn't activate Nate, but promotes Troy to acting #1. He acknowledges that Troy doesn't really know that much about the playbook and has never actually thrown a pass in the system under real game conditions -- not even a pre-season game (because he hadn't been cut by the Ravens yet!) -- but he has leadership skills.
So where's the genius you're asking? Simple. We must have the worst record in the NFL to have any shot at drafting Andrew Luck the Stanford QB next year. We need to have a worse record than Buffalo - not an easy task.
There's no other rational explanation for his decisions. If that's not what's going on in his head then, by God, he's snapped his cap, coo-coo for Coco Puffs, nuts, crazy, dimented, one of the worst coaches in Niner history. But that can't be, because he's told us that this was the job he was born to do, not be a Hall of Fame Linebacker, no, but a Head Pro Football Coach -- the greatest ever.
So see, it's really simple, but then the work of genius is often found in the beauty of it's simplicity. Think "e=mc2" Neat, huh?
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:05 PM
- Brazilian49er
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Originally posted by FourNine49:
That writer is as negative as the whiners on Niner Talk
Yeah, but they were the ones saying we wouldn't win the division before the season started.
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:06 PM
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F them. My team won. I don't need to hear how idiotic our press conferences are. I already know that. Anybody can make Sing sound like he's talking out of his ass, but the reporters still don't prod him enough. I want to know why dixon is in at the end. I want to know who the third qb is. I want to know why westbrook and gore can't be on the field together. Why is James on this team...
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM
- jb49ers80
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Yeah, I can't believe that anyone is kidding themselves that that 38 yard prayer was anything other than a terrible, terrible decision. Even Matt Barrows is saying that we won because of Troy Smith's ability to improvise. If by improvise he means chuck, pray, and get lucky, then yes, that's what he did.
Troy played well enough to win, and made a few really nice throws. I am excited to see what he can do with more than 3 days to prepare, but if he keeps throwing balls up for grabs like that, he won't be starting very long.
Let's be honest. Frankie G, Defense, a couple penalties (chop block and block in the back), and luck are why we won this game.
Troy played well enough to win, and made a few really nice throws. I am excited to see what he can do with more than 3 days to prepare, but if he keeps throwing balls up for grabs like that, he won't be starting very long.
Let's be honest. Frankie G, Defense, a couple penalties (chop block and block in the back), and luck are why we won this game.
[ Edited by jb49ers80 on Nov 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM ]
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:09 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by Brazilian49er:Originally posted by FourNine49:
That writer is as negative as the whiners on Niner Talk
Yeah, but they were the ones saying we wouldn't win the division before the season started.
not exactly a bold statement. they also said last year the rams were the team to watch out for....they went 1-15
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by jb49ers80:
Yeah, I can't believe that anyone is kidding themselves that that 38 yard prayer was anything other than a terrible, terrible decision. Even Matt Barrows is saying that we won because of Troy Smith's ability to improvise. If by improvise he means chuck, pray, and get lucky, then yes, that's what he did.
They guy played well enough to win, and made a few really nice throws. I am excited to see what he can do with more than 3 days to prepare, but if he keeps throwing balls up for grabs like that, he won't be starting very long.
Let's be honest. Frankie G, Defense, a couple penalties (chop block and block in the back), and luck are why we won this game.
I doubt he makes another throw like that if he continues to start/play, and it definitely was a terrible decision...but it turned out well, so as long as he learns from it, it's all good.
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by jb49ers80:
Yeah, I can't believe that anyone is kidding themselves that that 38 yard prayer was anything other than a terrible, terrible decision. Even Matt Barrows is saying that we won because of Troy Smith's ability to improvise. If by improvise he means chuck, pray, and get lucky, then yes, that's what he did.
Troy played well enough to win, and made a few really nice throws. I am excited to see what he can do with more than 3 days to prepare, but if he keeps throwing balls up for grabs like that, he won't be starting very long.
Let's be honest. Frankie G, Defense, a couple penalties (chop block and block in the back), and luck are why we won this game.
Yeah that sucks
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM
- mjonags32
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Originally posted by WestCoast:Originally posted by Brazilian49er:Originally posted by FourNine49:
That writer is as negative as the whiners on Niner Talk
Yeah, but they were the ones saying we wouldn't win the division before the season started.
not exactly a bold statement. they also said last year the rams were the team to watch out for....they went 1-15
Exactly.
So bottom line?
F them
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by FourNine49:
That writer is as negative as the whiners on Niner Talk
Nov 1, 2010 at 12:21 PM
- excelsior
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I am wrong on my predictions more often than not, but here goes: Singletary will stick with Troy. We will win about three or four of our last eight games, ending with a record of 5-11 or 6-10. This will produce a drafting position of about sixth, too low to get Luck or Locker. We will have also concluded that Troy Smith is another journeyman QB, no better than any other QB we have used over the last six years (I happen to think Alex is about a 10 to 15 QB if playing on a well-run team). But Alex will leave, and you fans will be crying next year - crying to put in the next experiment QB.