How did we improve our 53 man roster from last year? | Page 2

jimmythegreekjr · 2010-10-26T13:56:01-07:00

QB - Lost Shaun Hill and put Nate Davis on PS (for David Carr and Troy Smith) RB - Anthony Dixon is a plus over Glen Coffee, but is underutilized. Brian Westbrook is never utilized ( we gave up a good special teams person in Michael Robinson) FB - Moran Norris (same old stuff) TE - Nate Bynum has a good future, but is not a starter OLine - Anthony Davis either not ready or a bust. No improvement overall in Oline two rookies and a new Oline coach Still sucks. WR: Isaac Bruce retired. Brandon Jones - whatever happened to him. Josh Morgan is still here and overrated, Jason Hill is invisible, Ted Ginn Jr can't catch, Dominique Zeigler and Kyle Williams don't see much action. Overall our wide receivers are neither physical nor big. DE - no changes really (lost Balmer) . No improvement in pass rushing. We look like we're rushing under water. DT - Aubrayo Franklin is still here and not doing anything, Ricky Jean Francois has not yet made significant impact. OLB : Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Ahmad Brooks, Travis LaBoy, Diyral Briggs ILB : Patrick Willis, Takeo Spikes, NaVorro Bowman We are good in stopping the run. However, None of these guys however ever touch the opposing QB and are horrible stopping screen passes. Secondary: Lost Dre Bly, Marcus Hudson, and Mark Roman for Phillip Adams and Will James is it?). We have one of the worst secondary. Nate Clements is getting caught with his pants down. Taylor Mays only got promoted because Michael Lewis left. In short, we really have not upgraded are starting personnel from last year, especially in the Wide Receiver and Secondary Positions. These areas have been overlooked this offseason. Pass rushing personnel also. This all points to management and coaches ineptness to upgrade our depth with quality players so we have the flexibility to bench starters who underperform. When a coach says "let's just pray that Alex doesn't get hurt". What does he do? Does he go out and try to find a quality veteran that's available just in case? How many times have we really seen signficant roster changes. Yeah we hear we signed this guy and that guy, but they never play. We have the pretty much the same personnel and problems when Mike Nolan was coach. We are what our record is. We are a bad team.

Oct 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM

#16

carlgo
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You can't judge the players fairly under Sings regime.

We know that the QBs were not allowed to compete with Smith, Carr evidently never having reps with the first team. And this in a game where QBs get injured every week...just another Sing thing. Anyway, knowing how he did the QBs, then you might think that competition for other spots was also rigged by Sing.

Sing has to go, then let the players be evaluated by actual coaches. Then we will have an idea of who should be kept or not. Just unfair to evaluate now.

Oct 26, 2010 at 9:00 PM

#17

leakyfausett
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Originally posted by Grigga2021:
Originally posted by BobS:
Since the two rookie lineman haven't panned out yet we really are flat talent wise from last year, also as Alex Smith did not take the projected step forward. That still should translate into a close match to last year's record of 8-8, not 1-6.

Alex is having a good year. He's in the top half of most stats, and has more yards then Tom Brady....Alex is not the problem.

You are going to be real popular here in NT

Oct 27, 2010 at 12:07 AM

#18

PowderdToastMn
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Ted Ginn is an upgrade. Anthony Dixon over Coffee is an upgrade. Taylor Mays is an upgrade even though it wasnt expected right a away. Other than that I can't think of any others. That's sad...

Oct 27, 2010 at 12:28 AM

#19

Joecool
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I think we are just as good as last year minus the breaks. Alex supporters saw everything with rose colored glasses last year but here's what really happened:

In most of our wins last year, the defense got multiple turnovers combined with Gore dominating the game and Alex playing no different than how he played in CAR with checkdowns and innacuracy but minimizing intercentions. In our losses Smith threw intercentions and made some stat padding late surges while the opposition sat wig a comfortable lead.

What's the difference between this year and last year? Our defense isn't getting those 5 turnover games and Gore isn't breaking the long runs for touchdowns as he did last year and our QB is growing more interceptions.

Oct 27, 2010 at 5:04 AM

#20

TheXFactor
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lets see all the improvments:

Dixon > Coffee

Byham > Pascoe

Ginn as a PR/KR> Jones

Anthony Davis > Snyder at RT

Iupati

Kyle Williams > Jones

Laboy

Bowman > McKillop

Secondary still sucks

Mays > Roman

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:04 AM

#21

lamontb
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
Nonsense.

The Cowboys, Patriots, Raiders, Eagles, and Dolphins all have given up more, or about the same amount of points as our defense.

And you probably all think they are SUPER AMAZING FANTASTICALLY better than our defense. Well, they are not.

Funny how the Rams have the same roster, with injuries, yet they still find a way to win ball games this year. I wonder what is different about that team?

They don't have the same roster. Sam Bradford, and Roger Saffold were in college last year. Those are 2 major upgrades.

This team is suffering badly from bad coaching but the talent across the board is overrated. It's a mixture of both imo.

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:19 AM

#22

Dajanksta
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Originally posted by danimal:
Yep, and half of the zone thought all of those changes were upgrades

So did the entire country

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:22 AM

#23

PopeyeJonesing
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
lets see all the improvments:

Dixon > Coffee

Byham > Pascoe

Ginn as a PR/KR> Jones

Anthony Davis > Snyder at RT

Iupati

Kyle Williams > Jones

Laboy

Bowman > McKillop

Secondary still sucks

Mays > Roman

Yep, and for the most part this all a huge infusion of youth also (meaning actual potential).

Preposterous to say that we haven't upgraded our roster from last year. We've lost nobody of value, and added Ginn and a bunch of rookies who show promise. The first post in this thread is totally bogus, imo.

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:34 AM

#24

aMikeNolanGuy
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I am going to quote something I saw on Dominique Zeigler's facebook

"If y'all knew as much as you thought you did, you'd be coaching"

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:49 AM

#25

jta854
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Originally posted by aMikeNolanGuy:
I am going to quote something I saw on Dominique Zeigler's facebook

"If y'all knew as much as you thought you did, you'd be coaching"

How do you join the Webzone in October of 2010 and pick the handle "aMikeNolanGuy"?

Oct 27, 2010 at 7:50 AM

#26

Dajanksta
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Ziegler can suck a dick our coaches suck ass.

Oct 27, 2010 at 9:06 AM

#27

aMikeNolanGuy
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Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by aMikeNolanGuy:
I am going to quote something I saw on Dominique Zeigler's facebook

"If y'all knew as much as you thought you did, you'd be coaching"

How do you join the Webzone in October of 2010 and pick the handle "aMikeNolanGuy"?

I'm gay for Mike Nolan...

Oct 27, 2010 at 9:21 AM

#28

PowderdToastMn
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Originally posted by aMikeNolanGuy:
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by aMikeNolanGuy:
I am going to quote something I saw on Dominique Zeigler's facebook

"If y'all knew as much as you thought you did, you'd be coaching"

How do you join the Webzone in October of 2010 and pick the handle "aMikeNolanGuy"?

I'm gay for Mike Nolan...

LoL