Blowing it up....

Marvin49 · 2010-10-11T09:06:16-07:00

OK, we're 0-5. That sucks. I don't think ANYONE saw 0-5 coming out of the game. My question tho is who is in favor of blowing the whole thing up in the offseason? I'm torn. Alex Smith is MADDENING. I know there are some here who absolutely hate the guy, but I personally thing he shoulders WAY too much of the blame for these losses. Lasty night, he did what he does...he made some really good plays and he showed some of the reason he was the #1 pick. He also made those mistakes that you simply can't make as an NFL QB. The first INT was forgivable...he was trying to get the ball deep. The fumble was one of the worst plays hes ever been involved with. The second pick was also forgivable as he got his as he threw and the intended reciever was open for a first down. Thats the rub tho....for ever really good play he makes, he has those critical errors. Stats don't tell the whole story. Yes, he has 6 Picks and 9 INTS this year, but SOOOO many of those picks have been bad breaks. Then again...he seems to be prone to those bad breaks. They happen to him so often you start to wonder if there is something he's doing that puts him in a position to have bad breaks. I dunno...thats why its maddening. As for my question....this team has SOOOOO much talent. Even when they lose, you can see the talent. Crabtree looked really good last night. VD did what he does. Gore had a bad night, but he still has it. The rookie linemen still have rookie moments, but I think they'll be very good. With all of this talent, I fear a huge step backwards if we blow it up. I'm not saying it may not be the right decision...I honestly don't know. Its just that even at 0-5, they are just so close. Its freakin' agony. So, if they blow it up and bring in....lets say John Gruden. He installs the WCO (not saying we need the WCO, just saying thats what Gruden would do). So now we have yet ANOTHER offense. The reality is that the schedule is so soft here that the Niners are bound to roll off some consecutive wins and kill their chances at Andrew Luck if he comes out. Who plays QB then? Who would be better than Smith? I just dunno....I'm afraid blowing the thing up could just blow up in the Niners faces. I just dunno.

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Chief
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No, one dude called it.

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Method
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Originally posted by Chief:
No, one dude called it.

Truth. 0-5 ----> 5-5! BELIEVE THAT. Jed says so.

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:09 AM

boast
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too early to blow it up.

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:10 AM

boriken_9er
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No need to blow it all up. Although several changes are needed.

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:14 AM

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Nobody ever mentions that the defense is horrible...they over-pursue and allow a Philly team that is playing with a back up QB and injured RB to outrun them. Why is Alex the focal point, when the D allows teams to score at will????

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:17 AM

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Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Nobody ever mentions that the defense is horrible...they over-pursue and allow a Philly team that is playing with a back up QB and injured RB to outrun them. Why is Alex the focal point, when the D allows teams to score at will????

Alex is the only problem because he was a #1 pick and people have been spoiled with Joe and Steve. That being said he has played really bad. Our D is a MAJOR problem same with the oline...The worst problem though is the coaching..

Coaching
D
Oline
Alex

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:20 AM

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The worst possible / nightmare scenario right now is for the team to end up mediocre - which they are probably bound to be by the end of the season. That means there will be no progress, no firing of Singletary / possible return of Smith etc. I mean it would be really hard for this team to not win 5 or 6 games given the remaining schedule.

At this point, even if we win the west and that's a major major stretch, we'll get torched in the first round. It means nothing. We'll still be stuck in 1985. And what everyone forgets of course is that the Bears had a hell of a year in 1985 with their old school defense oriented smash mouth football but the decade was dominated by the offensive power houses in SF (and to an extent Washington.) The Bears snuck through once. In fact the 49ers took care of their vaunted defense in '84 in their run to the SuperBowl.

There are key players in place for this team to succeed in the next 3 - 5 years but we'll need to have a big boy offense and a real NFL QB. There is way too much talent on the field for them to continuously implode like this.

I don't agree with Sing's philosophy and and this team has proven that they cannot win under it. This is more painful than any I can remember. At least during the lean years we expected to suck. We were all just so damn naive this year.

Oct 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM

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We'll need to blow-up the coaching staff, although I'd like to keep Rathman, Solari & Brown. With the exception of starting over at QB I don't think the roster needs a huge make-over. We have the talent to win, we're just a poorly led team.

Oct 11, 2010 at 10:03 AM

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we're keeping an incompetent head coach because there are no experienced coaches on staff to take over...we cant bench an incompetent quarterback, because there are no quality back ups...how are we in this predicament? oh yeah...we're being run by a 28 year old kid....good god..this franchise is the worst in any sport....and i'm also a Met fan....

Oct 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
We'll need to blow-up the coaching staff, although I'd like to keep Rathman, Solari & Brown. With the exception of starting over at QB I don't think the roster needs a huge make-over. We have the talent to win, we're just a poorly led team.

That's pretty much how I see it. However, if you bring in a new head coach you have to give him free reign to pick his assistants, so there can't be any guarantees for Rathman & Co.

Oct 11, 2010 at 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by Bobbi9698:
Nobody ever mentions that the defense is horrible...they over-pursue and allow a Philly team that is playing with a back up QB and injured RB to outrun them. Why is Alex the focal point, when the D allows teams to score at will????

Alex is the only problem because he was a #1 pick and people have been spoiled with Joe and Steve. That being said he has played really bad. Our D is a MAJOR problem same with the oline...The worst problem though is the coaching..

Coaching
D
Oline
Alex

THIS!

Oct 11, 2010 at 11:43 AM

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Oct 11, 2010 at 11:47 AM

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kstolai
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Originally posted by boriken_9er:
No need to blow it all up. Although several changes are needed.

Oct 11, 2010 at 12:00 PM

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Axl49
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next year changes should be made. MAYBE after the bye we can make changes if we havent won yet(GOD please prove me wrong). Im all for hiring gruden or giving up the farm for Holmgren next year.