RAYE FIRED

Originally posted by ZRF80:
Mike Johnson......hmmm, no playcalling experience.

Something tells me we'll be asking for his in 2 weeks time. It's Sing's offense, guys, no one else's......until he goes, we can pretty much expect the same type of playcalling. Oh well, still an upgrade over Raye.....

Personally, I see the hand of ownership in this to some degree.

Singletary clearly was at a loss after yesterday. He had put a large amount of trust in
Raye and it was clear he was not getting it done. However, he seemed to be willing to stick by him. Then Jed comes in and says, "hey, we are trying to get a new stadium built and this dinosaur offense is boring and the fans are going crazy. You better fix this one way or the other." With that ultimatum, and a certain amount of judgement, MS realized it was time to get rid of Raye and bring in the guy that the team likes and has some new ideas.

The problem is; Atlanta is likely a loss in any case and that may set back the plan. OTOH, this team has far better talent than the record shows so all the offense has to do is score a legit 17 points while the game is still on the line and it will be considered an improvement.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ZRF80:
Mike Johnson......hmmm, no playcalling experience.

Something tells me we'll be asking for his in 2 weeks time. It's Sing's offense, guys, no one else's......until he goes, we can pretty much expect the same type of playcalling. Oh well, still an upgrade over Raye.....

Personally, I see the hand of ownership in this to some degree.

Singletary clearly was at a loss after yesterday. He had put a large amount of trust in
Raye and it was clear he was not getting it done. However, he seemed to be willing to stick by him. Then Jed comes in and says, "hey, we are trying to get a new stadium built and this dinosaur offense is boring and the fans are going crazy. You better fix this one way or the other." With that ultimatum, and a certain amount of judgement, MS realized it was time to get rid of Raye and bring in the guy that the team likes and has some new ideas.

The problem is; Atlanta is likely a loss in any case and that may set back the plan. OTOH, this team has far better talent than the record shows so all the offense has to do is score a legit 17 points while the game is still on the line and it will be considered an improvement.

Why do you believe the team is better than the record? Based on press clippings? Every team has great players. We have Willis, Gore, VD, and a bunch of nobodies.

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by Shaj:
Mike Martz is tearing it up in Chicago, because we fire him and instead go with some uncreative no-name whom we later fire, and with this, Smith nut swingers have another ALEXCUSE® to keep him around beyond this year.

Stop trying to start sht. Everyone including "supporters" have said it's playoffs or he's gone.

Only exception to that rule is if he plays lights out amazing and puts up Drew Brees type numbers and somehow we don't make the playoffs. The chance that the latter happens is about the same as you and susweel and others stop parroting your bullsht.

Ha ha....amen bro. Some of the haters around here have turned into nothing but trolls that try to hijack every thread whether it's relevant to the content or not.

Thread title: RAYE FIRED

Hater response: Alex sucks.

C'mon there is a definite relationship between the two.

If Alex was actually producing would there be any way in the world Raye would be fired?

exactly.

If this decision came from management, do you not think they would have "talked" Sing into demoting Alex instead of firing Raye? Or do they see the games too and realize that the playcalling, creativity, etc. is so predictable that even fans watching on TV know what's coming half the time. Sure, the execution of plays called has been crappy too, but it's the entire offense, the run and pass blocking(WTH happened to Staley?), and yes, the QB too, but whoever pulled the string on Raye's firing, knows it was Raye that had to go, not the QB. Not at this point anyway.

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by Shaj:
Mike Martz is tearing it up in Chicago, because we fire him and instead go with some uncreative no-name whom we later fire, and with this, Smith nut swingers have another ALEXCUSE® to keep him around beyond this year.

Stop trying to start sht. Everyone including "supporters" have said it's playoffs or he's gone.

Only exception to that rule is if he plays lights out amazing and puts up Drew Brees type numbers and somehow we don't make the playoffs. The chance that the latter happens is about the same as you and susweel and others stop parroting your bullsht.

Ha ha....amen bro. Some of the haters around here have turned into nothing but trolls that try to hijack every thread whether it's relevant to the content or not.

Thread title: RAYE FIRED

Hater response: Alex sucks.

C'mon there is a definite relationship between the two.

If Alex was actually producing would there be any way in the world Raye would be fired?

exactly.

If this decision came from management, do you not think they would have "talked" Sing into demoting Alex instead of firing Raye? Or do they see the games too and realize that the playcalling, creativity, etc. is so predictable that even fans watching on TV know what's coming half the time. Sure, the execution of plays called has been crappy too, but it's the entire offense, the run and pass blocking(WTH happened to Staley?), and yes, the QB too, but whoever pulled the string on Raye's firing, knows it was Raye that had to go, not the QB. Not at this point anyway.

Staley has never been that good. He is middling. Not horrible, not great.

Originally posted by Smokie:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by Shaj:
Mike Martz is tearing it up in Chicago, because we fire him and instead go with some uncreative no-name whom we later fire, and with this, Smith nut swingers have another ALEXCUSE® to keep him around beyond this year.

Stop trying to start sht. Everyone including "supporters" have said it's playoffs or he's gone.

Only exception to that rule is if he plays lights out amazing and puts up Drew Brees type numbers and somehow we don't make the playoffs. The chance that the latter happens is about the same as you and susweel and others stop parroting your bullsht.

Ha ha....amen bro. Some of the haters around here have turned into nothing but trolls that try to hijack every thread whether it's relevant to the content or not.

Thread title: RAYE FIRED

Hater response: Alex sucks.

C'mon there is a definite relationship between the two.

If Alex was actually producing would there be any way in the world Raye would be fired?

exactly.

If this decision came from management, do you not think they would have "talked" Sing into demoting Alex instead of firing Raye? Or do they see the games too and realize that the playcalling, creativity, etc. is so predictable that even fans watching on TV know what's coming half the time. Sure, the execution of plays called has been crappy too, but it's the entire offense, the run and pass blocking(WTH happened to Staley?), and yes, the QB too, but whoever pulled the string on Raye's firing, knows it was Raye that had to go, not the QB. Not at this point anyway.

Staley has never been that good. He is middling. Not horrible, not great.

No, he hasn't been horrible in years past, but he's playing horribly this year. For the guy protecting the QB's blind side, he HAS TO play better!

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ZRF80:
Mike Johnson......hmmm, no playcalling experience.

Something tells me we'll be asking for his in 2 weeks time. It's Sing's offense, guys, no one else's......until he goes, we can pretty much expect the same type of playcalling. Oh well, still an upgrade over Raye.....

Personally, I see the hand of ownership in this to some degree.

Singletary clearly was at a loss after yesterday. He had put a large amount of trust in
Raye and it was clear he was not getting it done. However, he seemed to be willing to stick by him. Then Jed comes in and says, "hey, we are trying to get a new stadium built and this dinosaur offense is boring and the fans are going crazy. You better fix this one way or the other." With that ultimatum, and a certain amount of judgement, MS realized it was time to get rid of Raye and bring in the guy that the team likes and has some new ideas.

The problem is; Atlanta is likely a loss in any case and that may set back the plan. OTOH, this team has far better talent than the record shows so all the offense has to do is score a legit 17 points while the game is still on the line and it will be considered an improvement.

To further your point, I believe if there were any discussions taking place between senior management and Singletary, they may have been senior management telling Singletary to do something to fix this or they would do it for him. Under Raye I always felt like this offense was trying to jam a round peg into a square hole. I mean how many times does our "Gore up the gut" running play have to result in Frank meeting a wall of defenders before someone thinks, "maybe this ain't workin?"

I don't know much about this Johnson character, but I hope he learned from Raye's mistakes, and I wish him the best in his opportunity. The 49ers aren't devoid of talent, so he's not necessarily walking into something awful. And before anyone mentions pressure, any NFL coordinator position comes with pressure. I understand this guy has spent a lot of time working in spread offenses, so I wonder if Singletary will take a hands-off approach and let Johnson do his thing.

Interesting. Where there is smoke there is fire. Doesn't look like Jed is buying into Sing's philociphy any more. Only a matter of time before Mike Singletary gets the ax. Who do you think our new coach will be next year ?

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by Shaj:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GBNinerFan:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by Shaj:
Mike Martz is tearing it up in Chicago, because we fire him and instead go with some uncreative no-name whom we later fire, and with this, Smith nut swingers have another ALEXCUSE® to keep him around beyond this year.

Stop trying to start sht. Everyone including "supporters" have said it's playoffs or he's gone.

Only exception to that rule is if he plays lights out amazing and puts up Drew Brees type numbers and somehow we don't make the playoffs. The chance that the latter happens is about the same as you and susweel and others stop parroting your bullsht.

Ha ha....amen bro. Some of the haters around here have turned into nothing but trolls that try to hijack every thread whether it's relevant to the content or not.

Thread title: RAYE FIRED

Hater response: Alex sucks.

C'mon there is a definite relationship between the two.

If Alex was actually producing would there be any way in the world Raye would be fired?

exactly.

If this decision came from management, do you not think they would have "talked" Sing into demoting Alex instead of firing Raye? Or do they see the games too and realize that the playcalling, creativity, etc. is so predictable that even fans watching on TV know what's coming half the time. Sure, the execution of plays called has been crappy too, but it's the entire offense, the run and pass blocking(WTH happened to Staley?), and yes, the QB too, but whoever pulled the string on Raye's firing, knows it was Raye that had to go, not the QB. Not at this point anyway.

Listening to radio in KC (and getting more and more pissed) it appears that the Chiefs Def knew nearly every play the 9ers were going to run based on what they saw in film and they were in fact calling out the plays BEFORE the 9ers ran them. Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees can't succeed if the defense knows what they are doing. The entire offense was crap... because of the playcalling and the lack of creativity.

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I posted a firing thread after the game and of course it was locked by our mods like it wasnt news worthy. A blind drunken monkey could make this call. It had to be done!

Originally posted by 49erJim:

Originally posted by kray28:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by carlgo:
What is overlooked is that Sing has been pre-empted and has lost much of his power.

His plan was to blame some players, shuffle a couple of them around, and motivate them more.

But now, the coaching has officially been established as the problem. Sing must feel the heat.

If Johnson is indeed that smart and charismatic guy, and the team comes out looking fresh and innovative next week, it won't be Sing who gets the praise. The power of his influence will go down even more as it shifts to Johnson and the other coaches.

It is not likely he can survive this or will want to stay around as a glorified WallofChinaMart greeter.

So you don't think that Sing tried to demote Raye, Raye was not havin it and Sing said there is the door?

I believe THIS scenario, more than I believe Jed had the stones to tell Sing to fire Raye or to go behind Sings back and do it in spite of what was said.

The junior owner is ballsy, but not that ballsy. Sing would squish him like a grape.

~Ceadder

No, the more believable scenario is that Singletary's hand was forced by management. What makes that idea more credible is a public vote of confidence for Raye less than 24 hours ago.

this

While this looks like it might have been a move by York, Sing has shown a short leash before by benching Hill. I wouldnt be surprised if Sing went to Raye and Raye havin all that experience didnt want to here about him doing bad so Sing fired him. Either way

JIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZED all on my face right now so happy. BUT it could be too little to late u know.

Originally posted by Axl49:
JIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZED all on my face right now so happy. BUT it could be too little to late u know.

jesus.

Hell yeah! Lets hope Mike Johnson is creative. Cannot be worse than Jimbo

Jimmy Raye: YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!! JUST GO!!!