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GolittaCamper · 2010-09-18T11:29:57-07:00

I was reading an article on the pistol offense, then went to a coaching forum to see what all the buzz is about. The pistol might just be the perfect offense for the Niners. It employs a modified shotgun snap, and the spread passing attack. It does employ some option running, that would put Alex at risk, so that part of the offense would be used sparingly, say goal line much like a naked boot. Here is the interesting part, the base formation is an I formation, with the QB lining up in the fullbacks spot and the tail back behind him, where a back traditional lines up if a QB is under center. The spread look, puts pressure on defenses to set the edges wide, increased gap size between offensive linemen creates more natural running lanes between the tackles. The run game includes stretch zone runs at the edges as well as traditional power blocking schemes favored by Singletary. This offense puts Alex in the gun, and Frank in the I, both of our key offensive backfield starters in their favorite looks, seems like a winner. I know it is too late to really incorporate it this year, but I feel that next season Raye may not be the OC, and Mike Johnson just might move up the ladder, is so he would be wise to get a QBs coach with experience in the pistol. I really feel if we are going to stick with Alex and Frank going forward someone needs to do a little thinking outside the box. Your thoughts, please set flame throwers on stun.

Sep 18, 2010 at 8:08 PM

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DarthNiner
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I play and coach flag football and we run this formation a lot. But the main reason we run this formation is because the QB doesn't want to feel the center's a$$. LOL!

Sep 18, 2010 at 8:12 PM

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BigYellowKahuna
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Link to article?

Sep 18, 2010 at 9:03 PM

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b9er37
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Chris Ault at Nevada came up with it, and it is way fun to watch. Nevada had 3 players rush for over 1000 yards last year. They also crushed cal last night. Not sure if it would work in the NFL tho.

Sep 18, 2010 at 10:27 PM

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Arkansas Razrbacks offense is majority Spread, but sometimes it appears they have a Spread/Pistol hybrid. It's fun to watch because it appears no one is allowed to rest.

Sep 18, 2010 at 10:55 PM

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Sep 18, 2010 at 11:48 PM

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AXEGRINDER
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Originally posted by DarthNiner:
I play and coach flag football and we run this formation a lot. But the main reason we run this formation is because the QB doesn't want to feel the center's a$$. LOL!

yeah leave that for the guys who get paid for it lol

Sep 19, 2010 at 10:22 AM

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GolittaCamper
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People are saying the Niners should run the spread, but no NFL team has made the leap to the spread. I think the pistol, when more people see it will be the spread that makes the jump to the NFL. This thread, is not really catching on because not enough people have seen the pistol inaction, give it a few years and NT will catch up.

Sep 19, 2010 at 1:41 PM

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If it involves creativity and offense then you can count Jimmy Raye out. I am all for going to some form of the spread/pistol offense. Smith and Crabtree both came from a spread style offense. They excelled in this type of offense in college and last year when the offense was forced to open things up. I don't understand why the coaching staff doesn't see that our offense is built for an offense like this.

Sep 19, 2010 at 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
People are saying the Niners should run the spread, but no NFL team has made the leap to the spread. I think the pistol, when more people see it will be the spread that makes the jump to the NFL. This thread, is not really catching on because not enough people have seen the pistol inaction, give it a few years and NT will catch up.

new england, the colts and the saints all run a version of the spread dude

Sep 19, 2010 at 2:18 PM

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backontop
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
People are saying the Niners should run the spread, but no NFL team has made the leap to the spread. I think the pistol, when more people see it will be the spread that makes the jump to the NFL. This thread, is not really catching on because not enough people have seen the pistol inaction, give it a few years and NT will catch up.

new england, the colts and the saints all run a version of the spread dude

Hmm and those are the most successful offenses in the NFL just about every year.

Sep 19, 2010 at 2:55 PM

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Originally posted by fly15:

that's fly

Sep 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM

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hondakillerzx
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Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
People are saying the Niners should run the spread, but no NFL team has made the leap to the spread. I think the pistol, when more people see it will be the spread that makes the jump to the NFL. This thread, is not really catching on because not enough people have seen the pistol inaction, give it a few years and NT will catch up.

new england, the colts and the saints all run a version of the spread dude

Hmm and those are the most successful offenses in the NFL just about every year.

u saw what i did there

Sep 19, 2010 at 3:02 PM

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AZ9er
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Pistol

Here is a brief break down of the pistol.

Sep 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM

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zeppfan1
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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by crabman82:
does the pistol O involve grabbing a gun and shooting jimmy raye?

LOL, "Jimmy have you ever read "Of Mice and Men, ...No, great let me take you down to the river and tell you all about the rabbits.

LOL!

Sep 19, 2010 at 4:43 PM

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GolittaCamper
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
People are saying the Niners should run the spread, but no NFL team has made the leap to the spread. I think the pistol, when more people see it will be the spread that makes the jump to the NFL. This thread, is not really catching on because not enough people have seen the pistol inaction, give it a few years and NT will catch up.

new england, the colts and the saints all run a version of the spread dude

No they spread out their receivers at times, they also favor to "bunch" formation to keep the db's getting a bump, but they do not use a spread attack consistently, we (the niners) do at times, look at last season when we were down against the Texans, but even still spread offense is short for spread option, EVERY team has a spread formation in it's play book, not the same thing.