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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Morgan is decent player for a 6ht round pick, Chilo is not a good player. I agree though if thats all we got out of the draft then it was a bust of a draft.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Funny how some of his TD's are of him getting behind the defense for a 20+ TD. He is not the fastest but he is definitely not slow.
Most of us knew that the 2008 draft was a horrible one. I hated the Balmer pick as alot of you did, but most people say we got fair value considering where he was predicted to go, but prediction don´t mean anything. Cody Wallace was the worst OLineman i saw during the 2008 combine and most didn´t even believe he was draftable, but Scotty drafted him in the 4th round.

Balmer was a one year wonder in college, similar to Robert Ayers or whatever his name is in Denver.

I hate drafted players with upsides, Jamal Anderson, Vernon Gholston, Kentwan Balmer and the Jacksonville DE that i don´t even remember his name anymore. ALL BUSTS
I wonder if we would still have drafted Crabtree if we had Jackson on the team. [/u]
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Originally posted by Icelandic49er:
Most of us knew that the 2008 draft was a horrible one. I hated the Balmer pick as alot of you did, but most people say we got fair value considering where he was predicted to go, but prediction don´t mean anything. Cody Wallace was the worst OLineman i saw during the 2008 combine and most didn´t even believe he was draftable, but Scotty drafted him in the 4th round.

Balmer was a one year wonder in college, similar to Robert Ayers or whatever his name is in Denver.

I hate drafted players with upsides, Jamal Anderson, Vernon Gholston, Kentwan Balmer and the Jacksonville DE that i don´t even remember his name anymore. ALL BUSTS


Gotta love the system though. Have one good year in college and then enter the NFL draft and become instant millionaires and then dont do s**t for the rest of your life.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.

He gets caught from behind all day.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.

He gets caught from behind all day.


That was 1 game where it stood out, before that I don't remember him getting run down from behind.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.

He gets caught from behind all day.


That was 1 game where it stood out, before that I don't remember him getting run down from behind.

I want guys who don't get run down from behind.


Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.

He gets caught from behind all day.


That was 1 game where it stood out, before that I don't remember him getting run down from behind.

I want guys who don't get run down from behind.



Then let Sing know where we can draft a whole team of 4.30 guys.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.

He gets caught from behind all day.


That was 1 game where it stood out, before that I don't remember him getting run down from behind.

I want guys who don't get run down from behind.



Better trade Crabtree for Hayward-Bey then
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
It's still too early. If Morgan and Chilo can be solid contributors, it turns out to be a pretty decent draft.

If not - well, then it's a terrible draft.

Morgan is horrible and slow. Chilo is wildly inconsistent. If that's the best we got out of that draft then we busted altogether.

Waaaaaaaay to dramatic, Morgan is not horrible.

He's the slowest snail WR I've seen on an NFL starting roster. A "preseason Tiger" who has never emerged in the regular season as anything of value. Plus he tips the ball up into the air for interceptions.

This player lives off the reputation of A FEW preseason games a long time ago. And it's sad that many WZers still believe it.


Combine breakdown

Positives: Looks the part. ... Linear build with good muscle definition and big hands. ... Good initial quickness off the snap. ... Flashes the lateral quickness and strength to defeat jams at the line of scrimmage. ... Good straight-line speed. ... Tracks the ball well over his shoulder and is at his best making the tough catch downfield. ... Competes hard when the ball is in the air. ... Can time his leap and make the tough grab. ... Has some RAC ability, showing good vision and burst to get make the first defender miss. ... Experienced punt returner. Negatives: Doesn't play up to his physical ability. ... Despite his quickness and strength, Morgan struggles to get off the line of scrimmage against a good jam. ... Marginal burst out of his breaks. ... Good straight-line speed, but lacks elite acceleration for double-moves. ... Flashes soft hands, but tends to lose concentration and often drops easy passes trying to make a move before he has the ball secured.

He's a 6th round pick for doing what he's doing he obviously does some stuff correct.

He gets caught from behind all day.


That was 1 game where it stood out, before that I don't remember him getting run down from behind.

I want guys who don't get run down from behind.



Then go cheer for the raiders. Speed isn't the biggest factor. Ted Ginn is fast and I bet you a million dollars Morgan is a better Wr than him.
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