Clements will attend minicamp, Franklin won't

Should we just make Franklin an offer for 4 years and get him out there?

Originally posted by 4evrfan:
I'm just getting sick and tired of all these prima donna athletes, already being paid obscene amts of cash, demanding more and more! And, the idiot owners pay them, which only perpetuates the upward spiral in salaries. Not to mentrion rookies who haven't played down one in the pros,expecting the moon! We have people working for slave wages, unemployed, losing their homes or their retirements, and THIS! Ticket prices are then making it difficult for the average Joe to attend games, let alone bring their families. Where does it stop? We should boycott games; that should send a message. Ok, that's my rant for the day.

Its easy to get frustrated with the situation, but you have to understand why professional sports operate the way they do. You hear this all the time, but it bears repeating that the NFL, just like all of the other professional sports league, is a business. Ticket prices are set based on what will maximize revenue. Players receive some fraction of that revenue. Anything the players don't get just does back to the owners or the league. Don't you think its reasonable for the players to expect to receive a significant fraction of total revenue given that they are the ones who put their bodies on the line? The reason salaries are so high is because the NFL is highly profitable. Surely, you wouldn't prefer the owners to be making more money at the expense of the players.

The only way to remedy the situation is to remove capitalism. Have the government buy out the NFL and price tickets, not to maximize revenue, but to make games affordable. Of course, the government would probably run the league into the ground in 10 years, but at least the games would be cheap and the players wouldn't be overpaid!

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by 4evrfan:
I'm just getting sick and tired of all these prima donna athletes, already being paid obscene amts of cash, demanding more and more! And, the idiot owners pay them, which only perpetuates the upward spiral in salaries. Not to mentrion rookies who haven't played down one in the pros,expecting the moon! We have people working for slave wages, unemployed, losing their homes or their retirements, and THIS! Ticket prices are then making it difficult for the average Joe to attend games, let alone bring their families. Where does it stop? We should boycott games; that should send a message. Ok, that's my rant for the day.

Its easy to get frustrated with the situation, but you have to understand why professional sports operate the way they do. You hear this all the time, but it bears repeating that the NFL, just like all of the other professional sports league, is a business. Ticket prices are set based on what will maximize revenue. Players receive some fraction of that revenue. Anything the players don't get just does back to the owners or the league. Don't you think its reasonable for the players to expect to receive a significant fraction of total revenue given that they are the ones who put their bodies on the line? The reason salaries are so high is because the NFL is highly profitable. Surely, you wouldn't prefer the owners to be making more money at the expense of the players.

The only way to remedy the situation is to remove capitalism. Have the government buy out the NFL and price tickets, not to maximize revenue, but to make games affordable. Of course, the government would probably run the league into the ground in 2-3 years, but at least the games would be cheap and the players wouldn't be overpaid!

Fixed!

Ice Soap could play NT for us.

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Ice Soap could play NT for us.

We've been there. Done that. Didn't work

I would not want SF to give Franklin a long and fat contract. I don't trust his motivation, and I really don't think he's all that wonderful in the first place. I like that Ricky Jean Francois is getting lots of NT work. He could be the late round gem of a NT. We also never really saw much of Sopoaga as a 1-gap NT, so he could surprise also. Hopefully, Franklin will play his 1 year tender out, and we can move on from the 31 year old later.

If Manny wants more money, he should give back the money we wasted on him in prior years.

One good season won't get you a high contract when the guy behind you may be more valuable to us.

Originally posted by kemp_j:
I'm glad Clemments is going to attend, finally. I can understand Franklin not attending if he doesn't have too......

Manny not attending is a mystery to me.... Manny has done a decent job on the field, but hasn't performed to the level of a 1st rounder. He needs to stop tripping and get in camp. This needs to be his break out year for him or he may be gone........

We gotta stop this nonsense. C'mon already. He hasn't performed to YOUR expectations of a 1st rounder.

When in fact the only thing he HASN'T performed well at is SACKS. That's it. But c'mon you cannot hold an injury against him. Actually the only way to do that is if he all but laid down as a result of the injury. In fact? He hasn't he's gotten BETTER in every statistic.

So please just stop with this childishness. He knows his importance to this team and wants a contract reflecting that. Is that too much to ask? I mean Frank got an extension directly after the '06 season did he not? What has he done up to this point that he warrants that and Manny don't?

You guys need to take a step back and look at the WHOLE picture not just the 1st rounder aspect of it. He's right to want more money considering that Brooks(I believe) who plays a THIRD of the downs got a better contract than he has. That right derrr would have my bacon sizzlin an my jo perculatin. It's THAT insultin.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Ice Soap could play NT for us.

We've been there. Done that. Didn't work

lol seriously

Originally posted by nyfl9erfan:

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by 4evrfan:
I'm just getting sick and tired of all these prima donna athletes, already being paid obscene amts of cash, demanding more and more! And, the idiot owners pay them, which only perpetuates the upward spiral in salaries. Not to mentrion rookies who haven't played down one in the pros,expecting the moon! We have people working for slave wages, unemployed, losing their homes or their retirements, and THIS! Ticket prices are then making it difficult for the average Joe to attend games, let alone bring their families. Where does it stop? We should boycott games; that should send a message. Ok, that's my rant for the day.

Its easy to get frustrated with the situation, but you have to understand why professional sports operate the way they do. You hear this all the time, but it bears repeating that the NFL, just like all of the other professional sports league, is a business. Ticket prices are set based on what will maximize revenue. Players receive some fraction of that revenue. Anything the players don't get just does back to the owners or the league. Don't you think its reasonable for the players to expect to receive a significant fraction of total revenue given that they are the ones who put their bodies on the line? The reason salaries are so high is because the NFL is highly profitable. Surely, you wouldn't prefer the owners to be making more money at the expense of the players.

The only way to remedy the situation is to remove capitalism. Have the government buy out the NFL and price tickets, not to maximize revenue, but to make games affordable. Of course, the government would probably run the league into the ground in 2-3 years, but at least the games would be cheap and the players wouldn't be overpaid!

Fixed!

You're more cynical than I, but you're probably right. Next time you do a "fixed" follow up post, highlight the part you changed. Took me a couple minutes to figure it out.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by mayo63:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
why isnt franklin attending didnt we place the franchise tag on him?

He hasn't signed his tender so he won't get fined.

and he doesn't want to risk injury.

I'm very disappointed in Franklin. He puts up a very good year out of 8 and now he's acting like Chris Johnson or Darrell Revis. The guy is very good, but it's not like he's in the prime of his career. If he had a half a brain, he would come in, collect his 7mill and set him self up for another big pay day either with us or a diffrent team. The way he's acting now makes me think he just wants to cash in and coast.

we should of drafted Cam Thomas

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Ice Soap could play NT for us.

We've been there. Done that. Didn't work

And it's sad, because the guy is supposed to be hella strong. I would have thought him a natural at nose.

Meh. The peeps that know what they're doing (i.e. Brett Farve, Crabtree) don't really need to risk injury and attend minicamp IMO

That's just my opinion, though.