MM's once a month sucking of Alex

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by susweel:
I partially blame MM for the fans love affair with Alex Smith. Alex may or may not have a good season, most likely it will be average at best. But it sure does seem like MM goes out of his way at least once month to praise Alex and build up false hope in him.


http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/03/why-alex-smith-deserves-yorks-vote-of-confidence.html

Completely agree. Here's a snap shot of the blog entry:

Quote:
Some of you have asked: Why should Smith be handed the quarterback job? What has he done to earn it?

Looking at things objectively, you'd have to ask the question the other way, too. What has he done to lose the job?

Take a look at the statistics for all the current quarterbacks in the NFC West. Smith posted the best numbers of anyone who saw significant playing time in 2009. I'm certainly going to make no predictions on how Smith will fare in 2010, but it seems reasonable to assume that he will continue to get better. After all, he turns 26 in two months. And for the first time in his NFL career, he does not have to spend this offseason learning a new offense.

One would figure Smith's play is on the rise - whereas such NFC West quarterbacks as Matt Hasselbeck and Marc Bulger, who have put together some really good seasons, are on the decline.

Allow me to rip away:

You don't evaluate a QB by saying what has he done to lose the job. This is where you get stuck in mediocrity because he can "manage" games, but not win games outright. The only dominant performance Alex Smith had was against the Raiders about 3 seasons ago.

Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner? 93.7 QB rating, and brought his team to the playoffs once again. You gotta love the fact he omitted Warner from his "objective analysis" to help support his entry.

That logic is like saying Jeff Garcia is the best 49ers QB ever...if you ignore Montana, Young, and Brodie.

And comparing Smith to Matt Hasselback and Marc Bulger? A horrible comparison as the two are nearing retirement or towards backup jobs - as well as the difference in development and talent level of the teams.

If the 49ers were okay with the status quo at QB, they wouldn't have signed David Carr and traded away locker room favorite Shaun Hill to the Lions. The York support is posturing by the 49ers for the PR sake of supporting Smith.

Let me be clear: Smith deserves an opportunity to GET the starting gig, but he shouldn't be entitled to it when the team hasn't gone over the .500 mark in his 49er career.

Coming in to start midseason while going through an offensive change in philosophy is not easy. I think he handled it very well. Its also a good reason why you can look at the situation like MM pointed out. As the starter, what has he done to lose the job. He wasnt set in an offense that he practiced for all offseason. You wouldnt be fair in holding him to such a high standard like many around here do.

But this all goes back to knowing the game and being able to understand game situations. With that said, Alex did a fine job last year with what he had to work with.

[ Edited by Dominate on Mar 24, 2010 at 13:37:08 ]

Originally posted by GEEK:
Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner?

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Let me be clear: Smith deserves an opportunity to GET the starting gig, but he shouldn't be entitled to it when the team hasn't gone over the .500 mark in his 49er career.

The article read "for all the CURRENT Quarterbacks in the NFC west.." Kurt Warner is not a current Quarterback in the NFC West, he's retired. Do you really think that if you ask Maiocco who had the better season last year, Warner or Smith, that he would say Smith? Are you f**king insane?

Now I agree that he shouldn't be entitled to the starting job in 2010, but he very likely will get it. Is it really that hard to accept?

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:

Originally posted by GEEK:
Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner?

...

Let me be clear: Smith deserves an opportunity to GET the starting gig, but he shouldn't be entitled to it when the team hasn't gone over the .500 mark in his 49er career.

The article read "for all the CURRENT Quarterbacks in the NFC west.." Kurt Warner is not a current Quarterback in the NFC West, he's retired. Do you really think that if you ask Maiocco who had the better season last year, Warner or Smith, that he would say Smith? Are you f**king insane?

Now I agree that he shouldn't be entitled to the starting job in 2010, but he very likely will get it. Is it really that hard to accept?

Way to omit the full section of my original post:

Quote:
Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner? 93.7 QB rating, and brought his team to the playoffs once again. You gotta love the fact he omitted Warner from his "objective analysis" to help support his entry.

And the point of the post isn't about Alex Smith, it's about Matt Maiocco's continuous defense of Alex Smith...and his analysis is complete crap in his latest blog post.

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by PA9erFaithful:

Originally posted by GEEK:
Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner?

...

Let me be clear: Smith deserves an opportunity to GET the starting gig, but he shouldn't be entitled to it when the team hasn't gone over the .500 mark in his 49er career.

The article read "for all the CURRENT Quarterbacks in the NFC west.." Kurt Warner is not a current Quarterback in the NFC West, he's retired. Do you really think that if you ask Maiocco who had the better season last year, Warner or Smith, that he would say Smith? Are you f**king insane?

Now I agree that he shouldn't be entitled to the starting job in 2010, but he very likely will get it. Is it really that hard to accept?

Way to omit the full section of my original post:

Quote:
Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner? 93.7 QB rating, and brought his team to the playoffs once again. You gotta love the fact he omitted Warner from his "objective analysis" to help support his entry.

And the point of the post isn't about Alex Smith, it's about Matt Maiocco's continuous defense of Alex Smith...and his analysis is complete crap in his latest blog post.

I read your whole worthless post, the bolded part I left in was the part where you twisted Maiocco's words to serve your own retarded agenda. His "objective analysis" included all the QBs that are currently in the NFC West, of which Kurt Warner is not one. How difficult is that to understand?

[ Edited by PA9erFaithful on Mar 24, 2010 at 13:40:11 ]

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by susweel:
I partially blame MM for the fans love affair with Alex Smith. Alex may or may not have a good season, most likely it will be average at best. But it sure does seem like MM goes out of his way at least once month to praise Alex and build up false hope in him.


http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/03/why-alex-smith-deserves-yorks-vote-of-confidence.html

Completely agree. Here's a snap shot of the blog entry:

Quote:
Some of you have asked: Why should Smith be handed the quarterback job? What has he done to earn it?

Looking at things objectively, you'd have to ask the question the other way, too. What has he done to lose the job?

Take a look at the statistics for all the current quarterbacks in the NFC West. Smith posted the best numbers of anyone who saw significant playing time in 2009. I'm certainly going to make no predictions on how Smith will fare in 2010, but it seems reasonable to assume that he will continue to get better. After all, he turns 26 in two months. And for the first time in his NFL career, he does not have to spend this offseason learning a new offense.

One would figure Smith's play is on the rise - whereas such NFC West quarterbacks as Matt Hasselbeck and Marc Bulger, who have put together some really good seasons, are on the decline.

Allow me to rip away:

You don't evaluate a QB by saying what has he done to lose the job. This is where you get stuck in mediocrity because he can "manage" games, but not win games outright. The only dominant performance Alex Smith had was against the Raiders about 3 seasons ago.

Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner? 93.7 QB rating, and brought his team to the playoffs once again. You gotta love the fact he omitted Warner from his "objective analysis" to help support his entry.

That logic is like saying Jeff Garcia is the best 49ers QB ever...if you ignore Montana, Young, and Brodie.

And comparing Smith to Matt Hasselback and Marc Bulger? A horrible comparison as the two are nearing retirement or towards backup jobs - as well as the difference in development and talent level of the teams.

If the 49ers were okay with the status quo at QB, they wouldn't have signed David Carr and traded away locker room favorite Shaun Hill to the Lions. The York support is posturing by the 49ers for the PR sake of supporting Smith.

Let me be clear: Smith deserves an opportunity to GET the starting gig, but he shouldn't be entitled to it when the team hasn't gone over the .500 mark in his 49er career.

What team is Kurt playing for next year? If you look at the bottom, it is all QB's in the West that will be playing next year. Just saying..

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Is that the guy from the Micheal Oher movie ?

no. It's the chick from Precious.

Originally posted by yummy12:
As much as I dislike Carr. It would not surprise me if he starting by week 6. That's how little of confidence I have in the other Bust...

If Carr is starting by week 6, that can mean only one thing.......dammit we're missing the playoffs again!!!

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by yummy12:
As much as I dislike Carr. It would not surprise me if he starting by week 6. That's how little of confidence I have in the other Bust...

If Carr is starting by week 6, that can mean only one thing.......dammit we're missing the playoffs again!!!

AND, we'll be picking up a QB with next years first rounder.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by GEEK:

Originally posted by susweel:
I partially blame MM for the fans love affair with Alex Smith. Alex may or may not have a good season, most likely it will be average at best. But it sure does seem like MM goes out of his way at least once month to praise Alex and build up false hope in him.


http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/03/why-alex-smith-deserves-yorks-vote-of-confidence.html

Completely agree. Here's a snap shot of the blog entry:

Quote:
Some of you have asked: Why should Smith be handed the quarterback job? What has he done to earn it?

Looking at things objectively, you'd have to ask the question the other way, too. What has he done to lose the job?

Take a look at the statistics for all the current quarterbacks in the NFC West. Smith posted the best numbers of anyone who saw significant playing time in 2009. I'm certainly going to make no predictions on how Smith will fare in 2010, but it seems reasonable to assume that he will continue to get better. After all, he turns 26 in two months. And for the first time in his NFL career, he does not have to spend this offseason learning a new offense.

One would figure Smith's play is on the rise - whereas such NFC West quarterbacks as Matt Hasselbeck and Marc Bulger, who have put together some really good seasons, are on the decline.

Allow me to rip away:

You don't evaluate a QB by saying what has he done to lose the job. This is where you get stuck in mediocrity because he can "manage" games, but not win games outright. The only dominant performance Alex Smith had was against the Raiders about 3 seasons ago.

Alex Smith posted the best numbers in 2009 at the QB position in the NFC West? I am sorry, but what about Kurt f**kING Warner? 93.7 QB rating, and brought his team to the playoffs once again. You gotta love the fact he omitted Warner from his "objective analysis" to help support his entry.

That logic is like saying Jeff Garcia is the best 49ers QB ever...if you ignore Montana, Young, and Brodie.

And comparing Smith to Matt Hasselback and Marc Bulger? A horrible comparison as the two are nearing retirement or towards backup jobs - as well as the difference in development and talent level of the teams.

If the 49ers were okay with the status quo at QB, they wouldn't have signed David Carr and traded away locker room favorite Shaun Hill to the Lions. The York support is posturing by the 49ers for the PR sake of supporting Smith.

Let me be clear: Smith deserves an opportunity to GET the starting gig, but he shouldn't be entitled to it when the team hasn't gone over the .500 mark in his 49er career.

What team is Kurt playing for next year? If you look at the bottom, it is all QB's in the West that will be playing next year. Just saying..

I understand that, but my point is that it's not a fair argument to defend Alex Smith when you take a tactful approach to skew the data in a way.

I don't think it's fair to compare Alex Smith to starters in 2009 in the NFC West if you aren't going also going to include Kurt Warner. A better approach for the analysis would be to compare Alex Smith to young QBs out there on developing and borderline playoff teams. How does he exactly stack up to a Matt Moore or Kyle Orton?

That's my beef with the article, and Maiocco keeps pumping out these blog posts with these analyses that don't explore the situation in a more meaningful way.

This is Axles last chance. He blows this, he's GONE!

This post is not intended for most of Alex's supporters, as I think they already comprehend the bigger picture.

Alex's stats are a product of his performance, plus the effects of the playcalling and the performance of every other member of the offense. If a player drops a well-thrown ball, it is recorded as an incompletion for Alex. If an offensive lineman blows protection, Alex has to dump the ball off in a hurry, adversely affecting his yards per completion. If his receivers are not yet reliable route runners, it can make Alex look indecisive or can result in an INT. A bone-headed penalty or a predicatble run play can put the offense in a hole. Stats show that passes on 3rd and long have a lower completion % than 3rd and 4.

I believe Alex was a better QB than last year's stat suggest, and I think his other supporters have the wisdom to see that.

Originally posted by excelsior:
This post is not intended for most of Alex's supporters, as I think they already comprehend the bigger picture.

Alex's stats are a product of his performance, plus the effects of the playcalling and the performance of every other member of the offense. If a player drops a well-thrown ball, it is recorded as an incompletion for Alex. If an offensive lineman blows protection, Alex has to dump the ball off in a hurry, adversely affecting his yards per completion. If his receivers are not yet reliable route runners, it can make Alex look indecisive or can result in an INT. A bone-headed penalty or a predicatble run play can put the offense in a hole. Stats show that passes on 3rd and long have a lower completion % than 3rd and 4.

I believe Alex was a better QB than last year's stat suggest, and I think his other supporters have the wisdom to see that.

That applies to every QB in the NFL.

Susweel, another great post from you. Bravo!

BTW, I totally agree. Alex Smith sucks, hopefully he's cut ASAP so David Carr can become the QB.

[ Edited by Method on Mar 24, 2010 at 14:01:41 ]