McCloughan was GM in '08. So his drafts begin THEN not '05. Please fix this GEEK, you're better than this.
~Ceadder
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by lamontb:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by GEEK:Originally posted by NinerGM:
Good post and I'll just quickly summarize some reactions:
1) No GM should get an A for selecting a contributor in the 1st round, especially within the top 10 picks. If you can't evaluate talent enough to know if someone isn't a bust in the first 10 picks, you shouldn't be a GM in the NFL.
2) Snyder to me isn't a B, he's more like a C-. If you're drafting a OL guy in the 4th round, he's contributing more than just depth.
Just my initial reaction.
Fair points. I don't agree with your first, but I think you are right about Snyder.
I would like to know your opinion on this - and no worries this won't become a flame-out discussion. I'm just curious as to why people think a GM in the NFL should get an A on a pick in the top 10 who becomes a contributor.
IMHO, the grading curve should reward GMs for finding contributors/starters in rounds 3 through 5 versus 1 through 2.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but if GM's can get F's for not taking the right guy in the top 10 then he should be able to get an A also. For example you have to give somebody an A for taking Manning over Ryan Leaf. Conversely, somebody on Arizona should get a F for drafting Levi Brown, over Adrian Peterson. Just like Scot should get an A for taking Willis over Carriker. i do think GM's should be graded on a curve like you mentioned. But selected teh correct player in the top 10 shouldn't be diminished. In terms of Scot he has done a horrible job with 2nd and 3rd picks minus Gore. He pretty much flushes 3rd picks down the drain.
That's a great response! I get the logic - and that's true, the examples you gave are definitely within reason. You're right - it's not always an easy selection - many didn't know Leaf was a head case. Carricker is a very good example also....however when someone finds a gem in the 3rd or 4th I think that counts a bit more because that takes more skill no?
Originally posted by mcbaes72:
Darrell Jackson - WR
- A interesting trade when it occurred, but Jackson had injury concerns and attitude problems with the 49ers. This was known when McCloughan acquired him, and it backfield.
I believe you mean "backfired".
Anyway, good reading and detailed, too.
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Gah! This is pathetic.
McCloughan was GM in '08. So his drafts begin THEN not '05. Please fix this GEEK, you're better than this.
~Ceadder