Rating 49er’s Past GM’s, and possible next GM

Originally posted by j3xperience:

Originally posted by bfree:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by MntIdaGold:
I said this in the Scotty stepping down post,

pick whoever is on the Steelers short list to their next GM candidate. Emulate who you want to become. Functional Organization that wins SB = Steelers

great so now we are gonna turn alex smith into a raper

I could see Alex becoming the next Eminem for sure... make it happen.

raper = person that rapes people

rapper = people that sing hip hop

FAIL.


man that mike holmgren debacle sure looks better now doesnt it.... im just saying.

I think both you and valrod mean rapist not raper (raper sounds a word a 1st grader would make up if it would know what rape constitutes and had not heard of the word rapist).

No offense guys...

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Anybody look at Tom Gamble's bio at 49ers.com? He's taking over a large chunk of the GM duties (alongside Trent Baalke), this guy (Gamble) looks like he's had better experience/success than even Scot himself when he was a Scout/Personnel Director.

http://www.49ers.com/team/staff/tom-gamble/17f5afbb-6679-4250-bc18-6bfb470bb433

Quote:
"During his time in the NFL, Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, Gamble served as a college scout for the Colts from 1998 to 2004 under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian."

Yep, thats exactly who I expect to take over. I don't think we will be adding anyone new. They will promote from within and fill a lower management position that becomes available after all is said and done.

Originally posted by nothing03:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
We have had horrible GM’s for the last 33 years (except for Walsh/McVay = A+). McCloughan was actually the BEST GM we had during that time (except Walsh); which isn’t saying much. Clark, Policy and Donahue were so bad that many fans have lowered the bar very low and are easily pleased with an average GM. Therefore McCloughan seems good, compared to the mostly garbage GM’s that we had, even though he is average. However, I do think that McC is an excellent scout, he just ‘peter principled’ and he is over his head as GM.

McCloughan (2008-2010): C+/B-
Nolan (2005-2007): C
Donahue (~~2001-2004): D
Dwight Clark / Carmen Policy (~~1993-1998): D
Bill Walsh / McVay (~~1978-1994): A+
Joe Thomas (1977-78): F-

It’s bad timing, but after the draft, there will be many good GM candidates available. Here are ten mostly younger candidates ‘on the rise’:

Doug Whaley: Pro personnel coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Mark Dominik: Tampa Bay director of pro personnel
Brian Gaine: Assistant director of player personnel for the Miami Dolphins.
Scott Studwell: Director of college scouting for the Minnesota Vikings.
Steve Keim: AZ Cardinals player personnel director
Eric DeCosta: Ravens personnel man
John Schneider: Green Bay Packers football operations director
John Dorsey: Director of college scouting for the Green Bay Packers.
Ron Hughes: College scouting coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Marty Schottenheimer:

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2008/9/25/621886/schefter-top-gm-candidates
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d9b253&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/190091.asp

Donahue is definitely an F why give him a D at all. I guess you forgot Ericson hiring and the 2-14 season we had.

I agree Donahue deserves an F. He should get the same grade as Joe Thomas in the 1970s who also was a disaster.

Originally posted by unst4bl3:
which GM brought in Mark Roman? thats the GM that was the worst ever.

at ninertalk

I am encouraged that maybe jedi jed learned a lesson with his rush to judgement hiring of bigMike, who should have been seriously considered for DC. But HC? jeez, c'mon, this isn't college. Hopefully jed is going to take time and evaluate atlanta, the ravens, the colts, the jets, the giants, the Packers, and see who sticks out the most as putting a great team together. Also consider our own guys, but carefully consider guys like loomis who have put a Saints team together in only one season or two. That is the most important decision jed has to make, and the closer he comes to drafting a HOFO from the above list, the better.

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
GM is not our problem. Look higher.

dont blame God

Stevie Johnson sighting!!!

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Anybody look at Tom Gamble's bio at 49ers.com? He's taking over a large chunk of the GM duties (alongside Trent Baalke), this guy (Gamble) looks like he's had better experience/success than even Scot himself when he was a Scout/Personnel Director.

http://www.49ers.com/team/staff/tom-gamble/17f5afbb-6679-4250-bc18-6bfb470bb433

Quote:
"During his time in the NFL, Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, Gamble served as a college scout for the Colts from 1998 to 2004 under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian."

Yep, thats exactly who I expect to take over. I don't think we will be adding anyone new. They will promote from within and fill a lower management position that becomes available after all is said and done.

I would probley be happy with Gamble asI have been lobbying for Colts GM Chris Polian, but our chances of getting a high profile guy like that is slim to none.

Originally posted by nvninerfan1:

Originally posted by ninerforyears:
Walsh was the best Period!

In our history, yes. In the history of the NFL, not by a long shot.

Not by a long shot? You must be high. Walsh is arguably the greatest personnel trigger man of all time. He basically invented the trade down, and without question was the first man to every master it. He drafted the greatest QB of all time in the 3rd round, new when to trade up, rebuilt the entire secondary into one of the greatest of all time in a single draft, built a team that remained dominant for almost 20 years. Etc. etc. etc. I can go on and on. What most GMs have (i.e. Bill Polion), is that one #1 overall pick that works out and makes them look great. Bill didn't have that #1 overall QB, and still had the success he had. Please, name someone who is unquestionably better.

Positions Bill drafted brilliantly:

-QB
-WR
-OL
-Pass Rush
-Secondary
-RB

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by nvninerfan1:

Originally posted by ninerforyears:
Walsh was the best Period!

In our history, yes. In the history of the NFL, not by a long shot.

Not by a long shot? You must be high. Walsh is arguably the greatest personnel trigger man of all time. He basically invented the trade down, and without question was the first man to every master it. He drafted the greatest QB of all time in the 3rd round, new when to trade up, rebuilt the entire secondary into one of the greatest of all time in a single draft, built a team that remained dominant for almost 20 years. Etc. etc. etc. I can go on and on. What most GMs have (i.e. Bill Polion), is that one #1 overall pick that works out and makes them look great. Bill didn't have that #1 overall QB, and still had the success he had. Please, name someone who is unquestionably better.

Positions Bill drafted brilliantly:

-QB
-WR
-OL
-Pass Rush
-Secondary
-RB

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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Anybody look at Tom Gamble's bio at 49ers.com? He's taking over a large chunk of the GM duties (alongside Trent Baalke), this guy (Gamble) looks like he's had better experience/success than even Scot himself when he was a Scout/Personnel Director.

http://www.49ers.com/team/staff/tom-gamble/17f5afbb-6679-4250-bc18-6bfb470bb433

Quote:
"During his time in the NFL, Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, Gamble served as a college scout for the Colts from 1998 to 2004 under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian."

That means absolutely nothing, probably wrote it himself.