With the additions of Solari and Brown at OL coaches...

For sure, we'll draft a new RT...personally, I like Bulaga over A. Davis, Trent Williams...but, we'll see what kind of OL Solari pitches to Singletary. I like Iupati...although his pass protection needs work, he's got two good coaches to help him. Brown would arguably have a lot of hands on w/OG's. A couple of other very good OG's are Alabama's Mike Johnson and Ark's Mitch Petrus. Whatever the combination, I believe we need that influx of new young talent. As for Baas, unless there's a new CBA, he'll be a RFA...meaning another team can make him an offer, but Niners would have first right of refusal. If they choose not to match, worst we'd come out of it is with a 2nd rd pick. With so many new RFA's, there may not be much action in the FA period. That so, they may opt to re-sign Baas for a year or so. We'll see. At least Singletary has improved his OL coaching significantly...and that has to help.

Originally posted by mayo63:
Draft Williams/Davis/Bulaga at #13 and take Iupati at #17 and we don't have to worry about the OL for the next 10 years!

While this makes perfect sense to me, for some reason I don't reckon McCloughan is going to see it quite the same way. More likely we get a RT and either a safety or a RB/WR/kick-returner. Whatever, it'll all be good.

Excellent, excellent upgrade with Solari/Brown replacing Foerster as OL position coach.

The really interesting question to me, at this point, is whether Solari can give McCloughan & Singletary a reading, before the FA period, before the draft, and before OTA's, regarding which of the current roster players are keepers, and which are not. Can he make such a judgement from watching film and interviewing these players?

Also, will the Niners employ different drills (more agility-oriented) in evaluating any FA and/or draft prospects for the OL?

In a related vein, I expect that Bulaga of Iowa will emerge as the most play-now worthy of the OT draft prospects. HC Kirk Ferentz of Iowa is a former, highly successful, OL coach in the NFL. Ferentz teaches OL fundamentals at a high level, unlike few others, in the college ranks and also serves as OC for Iowa, where he optinizes the play of the OL. I expect that Solari/Brown will see the polish in Bulaga's technique to be very attractive.

Very excited about the possibility of rapid OL development with this OL coaching staff, after the dismal Warhop and Foerster eras.

If Baas and Chilo are the starting guards next year I will be severely disappointed. Baas and Synder just aren't good players imo.

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Excellent, excellent upgrade with Solari/Brown replacing Foerster as OL position coach.

The really interesting question to me, at this point, is whether Solari can give McCloughan & Singletary a reading, before the FA period, before the draft, and before OTA's, regarding which of the current roster players are keepers, and which are not. Can he make such a judgement from watching film and interviewing these players?

Also, will the Niners employ different drills (more agility-oriented) in evaluating any FA and/or draft prospects for the OL?

In a related vein, I expect that Bulaga of Iowa will emerge as the most play-now worthy of the OT draft prospects. HC Kirk Ferentz of Iowa is a former, highly successful, OL coach in the NFL. Ferentz teaches OL fundamentals at a high level, unlike few others, in the college ranks and also serves as OC for Iowa, where he optinizes the play of the OL. I expect that Solari/Brown will see the polish in Bulaga's technique to be very attractive.

Very excited about the possibility of rapid OL development with this OL coaching staff, after the dismal Warhop and Foerster eras.

I fully concur on the influence and impact of both Solari and Brown on our current OL squad including Boone. I can see them increasing the level of technique and follow through with Rachal and Baas. I see Sims and Snyder also elevating their performances.

As far as the draft goes, I disagree on the most ROT ready. That would be Williams, still, IMO. I know that Bulaga definitely has more potential as both LT and RT, but Williams still is the best prospect right now at RT. Stick him in from day one and call it a day.

I also like Ducasse in the second who's raw, but man has some serious potential at both tackle and guard. He could use some serious seasoning by Solari and friends which could mold Ducasse as our next LOG starter after Baas leaves next year.

Who do you like at OG in this draft?

Originally posted by kronik:

Originally posted by GEEK:
I have a strong feeling that Singletary and McCloughan want to salvage Baas and Rachal. The reason being is that McCloughan has had a track record of limiting the amount of funds dedicated towards guards.

We weren't in any serious competition for Hutchinson or Faneca when they were free agents, and we let Smiley walk in favor for the cheaper option of Baas. In addition, we acquired hybrid prospects in Snyder (OT/OG), Wragge (C/OG), and Wallace (C/OG) for the purpose of reasonable (financially) flexibility on the depth chart.

I have no articles to post that may back up this sentiment, but the more I analyze these offseason moves, the more I feel that we will target RT, but may not acquire a guy like Iupati or Asamoah in the draft.

Thoughts?

If they wanted to salvage Baas, they would probably extend his contract. Since there's not a peep of that happening, I doubt it.

Nobody is doing s**t until after some things come out about the CBA direction.

I went to a Brent Jones speech last night and he told the following, very revealing story involving Mike Solari:

“In 1993 or 1994 we got a new TE coach named Mike Solari. This coach called for the TE’s to stay for 30 minutes after the team practice, even during 2-a-day drills. There were two young TE’s on the team, but I had 2 Super Bowl rings and had been elected to 2 Pro Bowls, I went along with this extra practice for a time, even when my veteran buddies on the team, Steve Young and Jerry Rice, would tease me about “having to stay after school”. After awhile, I found myself getting more and more agitated about having to hang around when all the other vets were heading home to their families. Finally, I went to Coach Solari’s office and knocked on the door. Coach, you’re killing me with this extra practice. I’m a proven veteran, who knows how to practice and practices hard. I’ve been to 2 Pro Bowls.”

Coach Solari just smiled and said, “it’s my job to take you outside of your comfort zone every day, so that you can continue to improve and make it to your 3rd Pro Bowl.” And then, Jones said to himself, “I get it” and he (Jones) did find nuances that helped himself to improve. In 1994, Jones won his 3rd Super Bowl by avoiding what he calls “the Pro Bowl glide.”

Mike Solari is the right guy at the right time for this Niner O-line.

I think I remember that the team wanted Faneca to visit but that he was more interested in being on east coast. mainly close to Pitt area

Originally posted by mayo63:
Draft Williams/Davis/Bulaga at #13 and take Iupati at #17 and we don't have to worry about the OL for the next 10 years! Do it Scotty, do it man, for the love of god, do it.

I think Iupati is great but in now way do I think he's a mid first rounder. That would be a huge reach. If we have our heart set on him that much then trade down and snag him that way. With guys like Spiller and Thomas on the board it would be foolish to take a guard that early.

Originally posted by ninertico:

Originally posted by jimbagg:
Excellent, excellent upgrade with Solari/Brown replacing Foerster as OL position coach.

The really interesting question to me, at this point, is whether Solari can give McCloughan & Singletary a reading, before the FA period, before the draft, and before OTA's, regarding which of the current roster players are keepers, and which are not. Can he make such a judgement from watching film and interviewing these players?

Also, will the Niners employ different drills (more agility-oriented) in evaluating any FA and/or draft prospects for the OL?

In a related vein, I expect that Bulaga of Iowa will emerge as the most play-now worthy of the OT draft prospects. HC Kirk Ferentz of Iowa is a former, highly successful, OL coach in the NFL. Ferentz teaches OL fundamentals at a high level, unlike few others, in the college ranks and also serves as OC for Iowa, where he optinizes the play of the OL. I expect that Solari/Brown will see the polish in Bulaga's technique to be very attractive.

Very excited about the possibility of rapid OL development with this OL coaching staff, after the dismal Warhop and Foerster eras.

I fully concur on the influence and impact of both Solari and Brown on our current OL squad including Boone. I can see them increasing the level of technique and follow through with Rachal and Baas. I see Sims and Snyder also elevating their performances.

As far as the draft goes, I disagree on the most ROT ready. That would be Williams, still, IMO. I know that Bulaga definitely has more potential as both LT and RT, but Williams still is the best prospect right now at RT. Stick him in from day one and call it a day.

I also like Ducasse in the second who's raw, but man has some serious potential at both tackle and guard. He could use some serious seasoning by Solari and friends which could mold Ducasse as our next LOG starter after Baas leaves next year.

Who do you like at OG in this draft?

As for me, I like LSU's Ciron Black as an OG.

Originally posted by GEEK:
I have a strong feeling that Singletary and McCloughan want to salvage Baas and Rachal. The reason being is that McCloughan has had a track record of limiting the amount of funds dedicated towards guards.

We weren't in any serious competition for Hutchinson or Faneca when they were free agents, and we let Smiley walk in favor for the cheaper option of Baas. In addition, we acquired hybrid prospects in Snyder (OT/OG), Wragge (C/OG), and Wallace (C/OG) for the purpose of reasonable (financially) flexibility on the depth chart.

I have no articles to post that may back up this sentiment, but the more I analyze these offseason moves, the more I feel that we will target RT, but may not acquire a guy like Iupati or Asamoah in the draft.




i agree. we will get a rt in the 1st round but i think we will stick with the 2 guards and not do anything for depth or FA. We shoud really get a fa guard and eventually move baas to center to replace heitmann.

Thoughts?

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After 20 seasons as a guard in the NFL and three seasons of coaching in the pro game, former 49ers offensive lineman Ray Brown has returned to the 49ers as the team’s assistant offensive line coach.

Brown played for the 49ers from 1996-20001 and made his only Pro Bowl in his final season in San Francisco. Brown’s only All-Pro season also happened in 2001.Brown spoke with the Bay Area media in a conference call and sounded excited to be back with the 49ers organization.

On why coming back to the 49ers was attractive:

“Just what happened in Buffalo, I was looking for an opportunity because the staff got let go. I have the bug. I love the game. I enjoy being around it in this capacity. On a very personal level, I’ve got some things in this building that are going to make me fit here because I played here and there are people who have touched my life in this building. I feel good about making this decision.”

On what he hopes to accomplish as an assistant offensive line coach:

“I want to teach. I want to help guys get better because I think I have something to offer in that capacity from just having played the game. I’ve always been a film guy and a pencil and note taker-type player. So, I can share that. I really do feel like I can impact this team in a positive way. I’m very appreciative of [head coach] Mike Singletary and [offensive line coach] Mike Solari to let me come over and be a part of this staff.”

On whether he was a coach-on-the-field in Washington when he was playing at age 43:

“I think you may be in the right neighborhood with that one. I think once you become, probably, a seven-to-10 year guy, you pretty much know a lot about what teams are doing offensively. For me, it’s all about sharing what people shared with me because I know that allowed me the opportunity to stay as long as I did. I just only try to reciprocate that, share things and pass off things that I’ve heard and things that I’ve learned. Really, that’s who I am. I’m very grateful for the coaches and teachers that I had prior to getting in this profession.”

On what he thinks about the 49ers offensive line group:

“I’m still getting a look at it, trying to get a finger on what guys can and can’t do. So, I’m really in the observation stage. I’m kind of in the hole a little bit, watching the film. We’re also going over the offensive playbook. So, I’ve got a look at guys, but it hasn’t been a real in-depth look, and we’re starting to watch cut-ups. So, the further I go, or, the further I’m along being on the job, the more familiar I’ll be with the players.”

On his recollection of offensive line Coach Mike Solari and his feelings about him when he was a player:

“He was a tight ends assistant and o-line coach when I was here for a year. One thing I remember about Mike is he believes hard work, and he believed in technique and footwork. And, for a guy like myself who played a long time, those types of things really kept me in the league, being able to play low, being powerful, being assignment correct – those types of things. I’ve learned quite a bit from Mike because you get to see more when you’re upstairs in the meetings with him. Just from my experience having played for him when he was coach here, I know he is a good man, and that has proved itself even while I’ve been on the staff.”

On how long he has been in Santa Clara:

“Monday morning I started. Today’s Thursday. I’m still here and I’m loving it.”

On whether he had known head coach Mike Singletary prior to coming here:

“Other than playing against him, not much. I remember doing a pro athletes outreach group that he and his wife give gave a testimony. I knew him in that way but not on a personal level where it’s name-to-name basis. I guess you know NFL players, but I would probably know him more as an opponent. Just through the process, the interview process, getting to know him, his leadership style – it’s very attractive. As an ex-player, he got me excited. I know I want to be a part of this thing that he’s got going on, and he sells a good message. I think more than anything, he lives a great message, and I’m excited to be a part of that.”

On how many times he faced Singletary as a player:

“I think my first football game we played against the Bears. It became a big brawl. That’s the one thing I do remember about it. Cardinals and Bears in 1986.”

On whether he traded any punches with Singletary:

“Not me. At that time, I’m not going to leave the sideline and lose that big, rookie, 8th-round signing bonus. I had some sense about myself then.”

On whether becoming a head coach or athletic director down the line is a goal for him:

“I want to grow in this game. I think as a player, my career sort of took a while to get off. But, once you get in, you start learning more. I just want to grow. Eventually, I would like to be an offensive line coach. I like the personnel side of it. I like a whole lot of aspects of the game, wherever those opportunities lead me. I feel like if I’m in the building, I’ll do the job. Your talents and your skills will be recognized. Obviously, it comes out in winning and losing. I know I want to help this team win football games and eventually win championships.”

On whether he will have any input on whether the team will draft an offensive lineman:

“I think I will just be along just like other staff. Whatever input that coaches have, you’ll be limited to that. That’s not really my area of expertise right now. I’m just really here right now to learn the playbook and learn our players. I’ll be a part of that draft evaluation of prospects. That’s pretty much where I’ll be limited to contributing in who we’re going to pick.”

On whether there are still a lot of the tenets that former 49ers offensive line coach Bobb McKittrick taught that are still applicable to today’s game:

“I think very much so – being smart, being tough, being physical, knowing what to do, knowing your assignments. All of those things are going to apply to modern-day football. It’s never going to change. It’s going to be about leverage. It’s going to be about being physical. It’s going to be about being a good man. I think that has a lot to do with whether you’re successful or not. We’ve got some good people in this organization. We’ve got some young players that need some grooming and growing. We’ve got some great teachers on staff. I think those combinations will lead us to being a much better football team this season.”

On his memories of McKittrick:

“Very much a thing of respect. He gave me a lot of confidence because I came in as a big guy who – I wasn’t used to the cutting and used to the sweeps and those kinds of things. Bobb told me some things on a real personal level that gave me confidence. Knowing that and having won a couple of awards that represent his name and who he’s about, you better believe that’s going to make me want to do this job even more on a personal level and it’s going to make me want to also do it for the organization because I had six great years here, not only for myself, but also for my family. I still have friends in this area. I just wish I would have kept my house.”

On his matchups with former 49ers and Cowboys DE Charles Haley’s and his Hall of Fame prospects:

“You’d be nervous whenever you had Charles Haley on your schedule. I think he’s had a wonderful career. I think it does merit Hall of Fame consideration. He will have my vote because I know that from experience. I really hope he gets in. Charles was one of those strange guys in the league. He’s kind of testy sometimes, but I got to know him as a teammate, got to know him as a coach when he coached in Detroit. It was real refreshing to see what kind of guy he was away from the game field. I think what he’s done on the football field is what it’s going to be based on, and I think he’s had a Hall of Fame career.”

On what it was like to be a teammate of Jerry Rice’s:

“Jerry was a perfectionist. He really wanted the football. I guess all receivers do. At the end of the day, he gave you the results. I think I’ve been real fortunate to play with some great players that are in this organization, like Steve Young and those guys who are in the Hall of Fame. You would just think, Steve is in there, so the guy he’s throwing a lot of balls to, he merits Hall of Fame consideration. I wish all those guys get in, especially ex-Niners.”

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I'm excited to see what Mike Solari and Ray Brown can do to improve our o-line. The potential is there for the 49ers to have a dominent o-line, but potential can only go so far.

Going CHEAP on O-Linemen is no way to win ball games. I hope having below average guards is not part of some bizzaro plan. I hope we draft the BEST R.T. AND keep Pashos. We will need depth and Pashos will give us that. Synder hasn't filled that roll at all. Keep Pashos and DUMP Synder!

Our O-linemen are (for the most part) big, bulky, mauling type players. Do you think Mike Solari and Ray Brown may try to get them to cut weight? This way, our guys can be more agile and light on their feet.