Joe Staley

Originally posted by smileyman:
Staley was much improved this year I thought.

2007--9 sacks
2008--8.5
2009--2 sacks through 7 games. Pro-rate for a full season and that's only 4 sacks on the season which is right on pace with some of the best tackles in the league.

Baas is a great run blocker. He pulls really well and he hits hard on the point of contact. He's given up 4 sacks on the year which is about 1/3 per game. I would really like to see more running plays with him pulling.

Heitmann is a really solid center.

Rachal has actually played pretty well this year. He's allowed 4 sacks this year and is starting to figure things out.

Snyder is truly awful. He's given up a whopping 8 sacks this year (9.5 last year). He can't run block either.

I hope that we use the same run blocking scheme against Philly that we did on Monday night. The AZ game used a bunch of zone blocking--and Frank was very effective. He had a couple of 30+yard runs but most were 3-5 yards and that's much more valuable to your team.

Baas is making veteran minimum anyway. If we resign him for that I'd be ok with him there. Pick up a RT through FA or the draft and I'm ok with our line.

Baas and rachal both get blown up and beat in pass coverage. You obviously dont watch games. However I do agree baas is a decent run blocker.

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

This is Staley's chance to step up and show he's a true LT by coming in and doing just as good if not better than Sims.

If he screws up, it's time to start to think OT instead of OG with one of our two 1st rounders. Heck, maybe we should go OT and OG with both 1st rounders if we can't get a guy like CJ Spiller to fill in as a backup RB and PR.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
This is Staley's chance to step up and show he's a true LT by coming in and doing just as good if not better than Sims.

If he screws up, it's time to start to think OT instead of OG with one of our two 1st rounders. Heck, maybe we should go OT and OG with both 1st rounders if we can't get a guy like CJ Spiller to fill in as a backup RB and PR.

I would like to think we were thinking OT even before this. We need a RT even if Staley plays lights out.

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

1. We don't have any Barry Simms in our team. His name is Barry Sims.
2. Sims has done excellent job but he hasn't outplayed Staley. Staley was our best lineman before injury.
3. Sims is 35, Staley is 25. Which one has better chance to develop his skills?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
This is Staley's chance to step up and show he's a true LT by coming in and doing just as good if not better than Sims.

If he screws up, it's time to start to think OT instead of OG with one of our two 1st rounders. Heck, maybe we should go OT and OG with both 1st rounders if we can't get a guy like CJ Spiller to fill in as a backup RB and PR.

I would like to think we were thinking OT even before this. We need a RT even if Staley plays lights out.

Yeah. Also, just because Sims has played "lights out" doesn't mean he's the long-term answer at the position.

The whole offensive line play has improved because of the move to the spread formation. If the offense can make Adam Snyder as a functional RT and David Baas as a functional LG, I think it has the ability to hide the weaknesses of Sims at LT.

The fact is Staley is our starter at LT. I would actually like to see Sims used at LG. I think he'd make a fantastic LG in our system.

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

Joe looked like crap before the knee injury? That's news to me.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

Joe looked like crap before the knee injury? That's news to me.

I thought he was playing rather well, he gave up one sack to start the game against MN, but after that he stonewalled Allen the remainder of the game.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

Joe looked like crap before the knee injury? That's news to me.

I thought he was playing rather well, he gave up one sack to start the game against MN, but after that he stonewalled Allen the remainder of the game.

I don't know either, but I have to say Sims at LT has been impressive

Originally posted by Twister68:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

1. We don't have any Barry Simms in our team. His name is Barry Sims.
2. Sims has done excellent job but he hasn't outplayed Staley. Staley was our best lineman before injury.
3. Sims is 35, Staley is 25. Which one has better chance to develop his skills?

1. STFU
2. STFU
3. STFU

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by Twister68:

Originally posted by marshniners24:

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:

Originally posted by marshniners24:
we should put him in at RT or barry simms at RT

Staley is the long term lt so he should start. But we don't have a long term right tackle and snyder is a guard playing tackle and it's not working. I can't believe im about to say this. But i'd like to see simms starting at right tackle this week until we can fix the problem in the draft this off season!

Just cause staley is the long term he automatically gets to start? Simms has outplayed him greatly this year and Joe has looked like crap. I'd like to see simms stick at LT and Staley at RT and try to keep some continuity for the rest of the season. Then in the offseason, staley goes back to LT and we will fill in RT through draft/FA

IMO

1. We don't have any Barry Simms in our team. His name is Barry Sims.
2. Sims has done excellent job but he hasn't outplayed Staley. Staley was our best lineman before injury.
3. Sims is 35, Staley is 25. Which one has better chance to develop his skills?

1. STFU
2. STFU
3. STFU

BRILLIANT COUNTERPOINTS!

You sir are the paragon of eloquence...congratulations!

Originally posted by SanFranAddic:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by sicc110:

Originally posted by Gavintech:

Originally posted by English:
I thought I read Staley would not be back until the last game of the season? Or am I tripping?

He was either questionable or probable leading into the Arizona game and had been saying he was going to play on Monday night since earlier in the week. Given that I think it's safe to say he'll be playing Sunday.

My question is....does this disrupt our line since we have to move simms if he plays or does it help?

If Sims is fit, leave him at L and put Staley at R? I don't really want to see Sims back at R.

Good question. I think Simms would do just fine at RT. Aside from a couple exceptions he really didn't play that poorly in the few games he played last year.

I hate to see them move Sims out when the line was really starting to jell. Bass seems to be playing better with Sims next to him too.

I hope this isn't another rookie mistake by Singletary.

Yup, Staley gives up the sack that ends our season.

He's overrated. Simms was actually doing alright at LT.

Originally posted by blunt_probe:
He's overrated. Simms was actually doing alright at LT.

Yup Staley sucked and gave up a sack on only 4 rushers! Sims played much better.

Staley should have stayed on the bench, he stunk it up.