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Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Rossum is not even playing in the NFL. There isn't one team that wants him. Lock thread.

Yes the oft injured, step out of bounds way to freaking often Rossum is available. he was cut by Dallas for the same reasons we cut him!

Let Battle return every thing until he gets better at it he as shown some ability despite a some mistakes, what ever we do who ever we choose, we need to give them time to learn, we need to stop the "Kick return Carousel"

A different return man every game is killing us!

Indeed. Rossum was cut because he kept dropping kickoffs and punts, he was just lucky enough to do it when no one was around.
i STILL dont see why we dont try Reggie Smith to return punts/kicks
Originally posted by momoney925:
i STILL dont see why we dont try Reggie Smith to return punts/kicks

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  • susweel
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Let it go.

Rossum was never healthy. We could have not let him go and he would have just been injured.
Originally posted by darkknight49:
"Some of you, (RedNGold) have been after me about finding out why returner Allen Rossum was released. Three reasons: He couldn't stay healthy, he couldn't catch the ball and he was shying away from contact. If you go back to his last game, he dropped two or three kickoffs and punts. Secondly, he was constantly looking to scoot out of bounds. Lastly, he was waylaid by leg strains and pulls.

When Dallas picked up, he immediately pulled his hamstring and once he recovered, the Cowboys cut him. He's out there but the 49ers nor any of the other 31 teams seem interested in a 34-year-old returner who should now look into insurance sales. Where the 49ers erred was pulling initial replacement Arnaz Battle off the job so quickly after he lost a punt in the sun against the Texans. Battle is the team's best punt returner and he just needed a few punts to get acclimated because he hadn't done it in five years."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=53208#ixzz0ZSVfv8PE

Allen Rossum did not lose any fumbles. That is the difference between him and battle.
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I can't believe people still b***hing about Allen Rossum. What exactly has he done since getting cut that makes you think he actually would have done any better than the returners we currently have?
Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:
I am still furious that we let Rossum go. How can we not discuss this? This was a HUGE mistake that has really impacted our season.

We release him, Battle fumbles a ball against the Texans because he tries to catch it even though he cant see it because the sun is in his eyes. The Texans score a touchdown a couple plays later. Final score: 24-21. Rossum is a veteran and would have not made that mistake.

Colts game: We have our really expensive cornerback returning punts and he breaks his shoulder. He is going to miss his 6th straight game as a result.

Seahawks game: We have Arnaz Battle try and hand the ball to Brandon Jones (A guy who has no business returning punts) and they fumble. That situation would have never came up if we did not release Rossum. Seattle scores a touchdown a couple plays later. We lost 20-17.

P.S. Why the negative post? Well there wouldnt be much to talk about on this board if everything was going well with our team. And I'm frustrated that our season is going to end the same way it has for the past 2 years: Win a couple games in the beginning, have a big losing streak in the middle, and just when the playoffs are out of reach, we start winning games.

Completely agree
Originally posted by crzy:
I can't believe people still b***hing about Allen Rossum. What exactly has he done since getting cut that makes you think he actually would have done any better than the returners we currently have?

Some people do not understand logic here. EVEN if Rossum was injured and played by dropping a ball or running out of bounds.........THE POINT is he never LOST a fumble and cost this team an easy 7. Why can't people understand this? I guess it's too hard
Originally posted by susweel:
Let it go.

Rossum was never healthy. We could have not let him go and he would have just been injured.

The thing is, even when he was healthy, he was inactive...

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Scot's fault for not upgrading the kr/pr spot during the last draft/FA period and even this year. Damn Scot, at least bring someone(Justin Miller) in for tryouts. I'm sure the coaches saw that Rossum was showing signs of getting injured and avoiding contact Scot should have noticed. This kind of thing is gradual if you know what to look for. Was he servicable last year? yes. Was he a young dynamic player we could count on in the future? no way. Scots biggest flaw is he isn't proactive in obvious situations like the oline, OLB, etc.
I'm not sayin that he would have been returning kicks/punts for touchdowns, but my point is that he is a veteran, and he doesnt make mistakes like fielding a punt at his own 3 yard line (jones) and tryin to catch a ball when the sun is in his eyes (Battle).
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Scot's fault for not upgrading the kr/pr spot during the last draft/FA period and even this year. Damn Scot, at least bring someone(Justin Miller) in for tryouts. I'm sure the coaches saw that Rossum was showing signs of getting injured and avoiding contact Scot should have noticed. This kind of thing is gradual if you know what to look for. Was he servicable last year? yes. Was he a young dynamic player we could count on in the future? no way. Scots biggest flaw is he isn't proactive in obvious situations like the oline, OLB, etc.

Agreed, I blame this more on Scotty than Singletary.

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He's a 35 year old guy that's been injured most of the season. There's a good chance he isn't even in those games. Get over it.

And how the hell does anyone know he doesn't turn the ball over if he's playing?
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