First 4 games
W/L 3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
W/L 0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
[ Edited by MadMartz on Nov 9, 2009 at 12:34:45 ]
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The Defense has tanked hard
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Nov 9, 2009 at 12:33 PM
- MadMartz
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Nov 9, 2009 at 12:34 PM
- jreff22
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Turnovers haven't happened....that's the biggest thing killing them.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:35 PM
- YungBird
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Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference. Add to the fact that we are giving the ball away more + 3 & outs don't help either.
[ Edited by BirdmanJr on Nov 9, 2009 at 12:36:45 ]
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
- tohara3
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They can't get any game changing turnovers to swing the game in our favor.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:39 PM
- MadMartz
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Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference.
Tenn is a stinker of a team and we gave up 27 points to them. Then we hold Indy to 18 and dont allow a manning TD pass? If we can hold Indy to 18 then we should be able to hold any team down. The defense is tanking.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:40 PM
- YungBird
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Originally posted by MadMartz:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference.
Tenn is a stinker of a team and we gave up 27 points to them. Then we hold Indy to 18 and dont allow a manning TD pass? If we can hold Indy to 18 then we should be able to hold any team down. The defense is tanking.
The Titans scored because we have them the ball 4 times. Take away those turnovers and they most likely wont score that many times and we win.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
W/L 3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
W/L 0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
Turnovers don't help but then again, you can't dimiss that even with a short field for the opposition d/t turnovers or other reasons, the defense is giving up MORE yards per game; exactly 100 yards more a game. That's ALL on the defense.
I know it's easy to blame the worse of two evils but the defense still is evil by not generating any turnovers, zero pass rush when it counts, terrible in coverage in the middle of the field, atrociously bad in short yardage, safety play, now injuries, mental mistakes, etc. And now these guys are tired with no viable bench players. Expect it to get worse.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM
- KknighthawkK_9er
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You have to look at who we played as well. Indy and Houston have two of the best offenses in football. Chris Johnson is one of the best RB's in football. The defense could have played better, but I don't think it was terrible.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM
- YungBird
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference.
Tenn is a stinker of a team and we gave up 27 points to them. Then we hold Indy to 18 and dont allow a manning TD pass? If we can hold Indy to 18 then we should be able to hold any team down. The defense is tanking.
The Titans scored because we have them the ball 4 times. Take away those turnovers and they most likely wont score that many times and we win.
Huh???? Really? We didn't stop Chris Johnson at all. The DEEP passes to Justin Gage had nothing to do with a turnover.
When you don't give your D any rest because you just turned the ball over it will f**k up your D.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:47 PM
- jcs
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Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference. Add to the fact that we are giving the ball away more + 3 & outs don't help either.
That seattle game was also against a piss poor backup QB who still moved the ball.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:49 PM
- MadMartz
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Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference.
Tenn is a stinker of a team and we gave up 27 points to them. Then we hold Indy to 18 and dont allow a manning TD pass? If we can hold Indy to 18 then we should be able to hold any team down. The defense is tanking.
The Titans scored because we have them the ball 4 times. Take away those turnovers and they most likely wont score that many times and we win.
Huh???? Really? We didn't stop Chris Johnson at all. The DEEP passes to Justin Gage had nothing to do with a turnover.
When you don't give your D any rest because you just turned the ball over it will f**k up your D.
Time of Possession Tenn- 26:10 SF- 33:50
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:50 PM
- SonocoNinerFan
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Too many short fields yesterday
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:51 PM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by tohara3:
They can't get any game changing turnovers to swing the game in our favor.
Come on guys that's not the whole story.
The defense should be able to be a little better against a QB getting his 2nd start of the YEAR.
The D stunk it up just a bit. Even with turnovers, Chris Johnson still had a ridiculous number of yards rushing on the edges.
I don't know what everybody else is talking bout but I agree with you. They can't get off the field when they need to. they don't make stops when the team needs them too. Like you said VY is a poor qb making his 2nd start of the season and the guy isn't rattled or getting pressured at all. i mean I didn't even see the niners blitz. and i don't wanna here it's b/c they don't want to give up the big play, b/c the Titans WR's are terrible. And on top of that the big plays still happened. Manny and Parys both need to be replaced. Safety play was poor at best, and missing Nate was huge. CJ ran all over the niners defense.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:52 PM
- YungBird
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Originally posted by MadMartz:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:Originally posted by BirdmanJr:Originally posted by MadMartz:
First 4 games
3-1
Opp PPG 13.3
Opp yds PG 284.0
Takeaways PG 1.8
Last 4 games
0-4
Opp PPG 30.3
Opp yds PG 384.5
Takeaways PG 0.8
First 4 games vs. Seattle, Arizona, Rams & Minny
Last 4 games against Colts, Texans, ATL & Titans...big difference.
Tenn is a stinker of a team and we gave up 27 points to them. Then we hold Indy to 18 and dont allow a manning TD pass? If we can hold Indy to 18 then we should be able to hold any team down. The defense is tanking.
The Titans scored because we have them the ball 4 times. Take away those turnovers and they most likely wont score that many times and we win.
Huh???? Really? We didn't stop Chris Johnson at all. The DEEP passes to Justin Gage had nothing to do with a turnover.
When you don't give your D any rest because you just turned the ball over it will f**k up your D.
Time of Possession Tenn- 26:10 SF- 33:50
I know the defense is tanking, the only reason it looked like we were doing OK is because we faced wack ass teams during the first 4 games besides AZ. Now we face high powered offenses and it shows our true colors.
Nov 9, 2009 at 12:57 PM
- YungBird
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Our pass defense is horrible in key situations
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