Isaac Bruce was killing me. He dropped at least 2 very catchable balls, and the worst part was that he looked like he wasn't trying.
TOP in the 2nd half was a big issue. The crabtree fumble hurt a decent drive.
I thought Smith looked sharp, particularly in the 2 minute drill. That throw to crabtree was perfect, and he even looked off the safety which he was terrible at before. I'd written Smith off, but I was wrong.
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Nov 2, 2009 at 8:15 AM
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Nov 2, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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Originally posted by Pedro61:
Baltien, all good points.
I'm with valerod on page 1. We are improving.........
It's not all about x's and o's. At the Ravens, Nolan was one of 'the' x's and o's top dogs in the league............he's proven at Denver he still is. How did that help us?
Manusky and the D are improving.........Sings is doing his job. The O is struggling, but Raye wasnt anyone's first choice. We're improving this year, we are still a way from being a legit contender though. For now i'll stick with some continual improvement, and give it a year or two we'll have a couple of better OL, the rest of the OL will have developed, we will have an elite pass rusher, and then we'll be a lot more attractive to great OC's........
We're going in the right direction. Jumping on the bandwagon for an ex HC/Niner who is available is crazy.......
..........but Shanahan? really?
Let's get hooked up with Holmgren!!!!!
Shannahan for Head Coach. Holmgren for GM and Norv Turner for O-Coord.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:22 AM
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Originally posted by ramanz16:
Compared to how we looked in weeks prior we did look sharp. We had a decent running game and Smith looked good at qb. The problem was mostly constistency and penalties, but we did look better than we have previously.
Yes, context. In the context of the last weeks under Hill, and the constant pressure on our QB, the lack of blocking on the O-line both run and pass, the O did look much better. Night and day better. We are not their yet, but they are moving in the right direction again after being stuck in neutral for quite some time. Any movement is good, just get the damn thing out of neutral, which seems to be happening. Call it going from neutral to first gear, there are still more gears to hit. If Smith can remain consistent, it is a nice group to go forward with: Smith, VD, Gore, Craptree....if they can be consistent. It's the thing that ties them all together that needs big time improvement...the o-line.
We had our opportunities on both sides of the ball to take that game. Individual mistakes were made, nobody stepped up at the right time. Not the D, not the O not the ST. It was almost like each unit was waiting for somebody else to do it. Each one of them made mistakes at the exact time they needed to step it up....to close it out. Big third down conversions on both sides of the ball killed us. Yes, both sides of the ball. Nobody getting a good run back on ST killed us. A fumble at around midfield killed us. S**t like that, the little s**t that adds up, is the difference between winning against elite teams on the road and losing. That's the place you gotta be...contending... before you can take the next step of winning those games. Once you take that step of being able to win consistently against elite teams on the road...you are there.
As you can see from both Minny and Indianapolis, we are getting close.
[ Edited by Blitz on Nov 2, 2009 at 08:31:16 ]
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM
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Originally posted by JBatta49erfansince81:Originally posted by Pedro61:
Baltien, all good points.
I'm with valerod on page 1. We are improving.........
It's not all about x's and o's. At the Ravens, Nolan was one of 'the' x's and o's top dogs in the league............he's proven at Denver he still is. How did that help us?
Manusky and the D are improving.........Sings is doing his job. The O is struggling, but Raye wasnt anyone's first choice. We're improving this year, we are still a way from being a legit contender though. For now i'll stick with some continual improvement, and give it a year or two we'll have a couple of better OL, the rest of the OL will have developed, we will have an elite pass rusher, and then we'll be a lot more attractive to great OC's........
We're going in the right direction. Jumping on the bandwagon for an ex HC/Niner who is available is crazy.......
..........but Shanahan? really?
Let's get hooked up with Holmgren!!!!!
Shannahan for Head Coach. Holmgren for GM and Norv Turner for O-Coord.
f**k Shanahan his last 3 years he was 24-24 he has lost it, Pat Bowlen is looking liek a genius right now, so is Mcdaniels. Shanahan and Holmgren are washed up they use to be good coaches they aint no more though, just like Joe Gibbs eventually their time comes to an end.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM
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Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:32 AM
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Originally posted by JBatta49erfansince81:Originally posted by Pedro61:
Baltien, all good points.
I'm with valerod on page 1. We are improving.........
It's not all about x's and o's. At the Ravens, Nolan was one of 'the' x's and o's top dogs in the league............he's proven at Denver he still is. How did that help us?
Manusky and the D are improving.........Sings is doing his job. The O is struggling, but Raye wasnt anyone's first choice. We're improving this year, we are still a way from being a legit contender though. For now i'll stick with some continual improvement, and give it a year or two we'll have a couple of better OL, the rest of the OL will have developed, we will have an elite pass rusher, and then we'll be a lot more attractive to great OC's........
We're going in the right direction. Jumping on the bandwagon for an ex HC/Niner who is available is crazy.......
..........but Shanahan? really?
Let's get hooked up with Holmgren!!!!!
Shannahan for Head Coach. Holmgren for GM and Norv Turner for O-Coord.
wow.. good idea!
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:35 AM
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Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
Pretty much. People act like you can reach over to some shelf and pull what you need coaching and talent wise off of it.
News flash people: Put down the Madden, put away the fantasy foosball game, there are 32 teams who would all love to have that non-existent magical grocery shelf that you are deluded about.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 AM
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Originally posted by nvninerfan1:The future may look bright, but a few of us would like to something along the lines of an NFL caliber offense that attacks instead being ultra conservative. Some of us would like to see the 49ers actually win some more games this season.
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
And why the hell are you talking about instant gratification? This team hasn't done diddly poo in 7 years? Every year the future looks brighter than previous years, but every year the light gets dimmer and dimmer round about midseason.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:37 AM
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Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
THIS!!!
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:39 AM
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Originally posted by Blitz:Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
Pretty much. People act like you can reach over to some shelf and pull what you need coaching and talent wise off of it.
News flash people: Put down the Madden, put away the fantasy foosball game, there are 32 teams who would all love to have that non-existent magical grocery shelf that you are deluded about.
I do agree.
Am I as disappointed as ever? Yes. I feel we've lost too many games we should've won. I expected us to lose to Indy, but absolutely didn't want that to happen.
The next two games are basically what will decide this season for us. We win, we're back in it -- If we lose, we're likely out barring a massive collapse of Arizona.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:42 AM
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Originally posted by miked1978:Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
THIS!!!
When did the 49ers and its fan start accepting moral victories? I don't give an F about moral victories and progression. The only thing I give a crap about is WINS. It doesn't matter if you lose by an inch or a 1000 mile. A LOST is still a lost. Fk moral victories.
But I do agree that we are a play caller away from being a good team.
[ Edited by sacleads on Nov 2, 2009 at 08:44:20 ]
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM
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Nov 2, 2009 at 8:49 AM
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Originally posted by Blitz:Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
Pretty much. People act like you can reach over to some shelf and pull what you need coaching and talent wise off of it.
News flash people: Put down the Madden, put away the fantasy foosball game, there are 32 teams who would all love to have that non-existent magical grocery shelf that you are deluded about.
This would be a good argument about 2-3 years ago, but your argument is starting to get reallllllll reall old.
No one is aasking for a miracle, sh*t i dont even play madden, i think everyone is talking about some sort of consistency/identity/relevance on offense in San Francisco. We have just been too sh*tty for too long on offense, its unhealthy dude. And now, the reason why everyone is b*tching even more IMO, is because we have the weapons to be good, really good. Our offensive coaches clearly dont know what they're doing, they cant even get the f*cking play in the huddle.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM
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agree, this day in age, you don't have 10 years to build a franchise.
Nov 2, 2009 at 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by Blitz:Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Wah, wah, wah.......What a bunch of whiners. We just about beat a 7-0 team, and you guys are whining about it. Sorry kids, things just don't happen overnite.
Forgot to look at the bright side. We held one of the best QBs in NFL history to no touchdowns. We made him look "normal and confused". They got a touchdown on
a play that no one would have schemed for. Yes, they marched down the field, but we held them to 3 points four times.
On offense we have play makers now, but let's b***h about play calling. Yes, our O-line is abysmal, but that can and will be fixed. It may not happen this year (sorry for those of you who grew up in the age of instant gratification) but the future looks better to me than it has in many years.
Pretty much. People act like you can reach over to some shelf and pull what you need coaching and talent wise off of it.
News flash people: Put down the Madden, put away the fantasy foosball game, there are 32 teams who would all love to have that non-existent magical grocery shelf that you are deluded about.
I do agree.
Am I as disappointed as ever? Yes. I feel we've lost too many games we should've won. I expected us to lose to Indy, but absolutely didn't want that to happen.
The next two games are basically what will decide this season for us. We win, we're back in it -- If we lose, we're likely out barring a massive collapse of Arizona.
However anybody chooses to slice it, this team has been contending against elite teams on the road and is close to winning those games. That is HUGE. It is the hardest step for any team to take. It is very hard to beat elite teams in their house, it's the hardest thing there is in this league, and it's also exactly what you have to do if you are ever going to be somebody in this league. It's the difference between pretender's and contender's. They are almost there, they have to get over that hump at some point, all things remaining equal tomorrow, that point will probably come when the o-line gets fixed, IMHO.
They can win these next two games, I have no doubt. It all hinges on the o-line, IMHO.