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Originally posted by Chief49er:
27 Mins M. Vick QB ATL
Michael Vick's lawyer told a bankruptcy court on Thursday that his client has lined up a $10-an-hour construction job for when he is released from prison, according to NFL.com. Vick, who is scheduled to be in custody until July but may receive home confinement beginning as early as May, plans to work 40 hours a week at one of W.M. Jordan's 40 commercial construction jobs.
Originally posted by Chief49er:
27 Mins M. Vick QB ATL
Michael Vick's lawyer told a bankruptcy court on Thursday that his client has lined up a $10-an-hour construction job for when he is released from prison, according to NFL.com. Vick, who is scheduled to be in custody until July but may receive home confinement beginning as early as May, plans to work 40 hours a week at one of W.M. Jordan's 40 commercial construction jobs.
Originally posted by 49erLifer:Originally posted by Chief49er:
27 Mins M. Vick QB ATL
Michael Vick's lawyer told a bankruptcy court on Thursday that his client has lined up a $10-an-hour construction job for when he is released from prison, according to NFL.com. Vick, who is scheduled to be in custody until July but may receive home confinement beginning as early as May, plans to work 40 hours a week at one of W.M. Jordan's 40 commercial construction jobs.
You wouldn't want to be the guy forgetting Vick has no touch and asking him to toss you a hammer.
Originally posted by BobS:
I thought the penalty was excessive, give the guy a fresh start, he did the time. For
the record I am white and hate pit bulls.
Originally posted by 49erLifer:Originally posted by Niners99:
lol are you seriously saying eating eggs and burgers is equal to abusing dogs and forcing them to kill eachother....what planet are you from?
the fact is, Vick is an idiot who screwed up big time, and lost the trust and confidence of the NFL. i personally didnt find him that entertaining. he was overrated. he glanced downfield, and if his homie Roddy White aint open, and his homie Michael Jenkins aint open, he took off running. every time. his cannon arm was pointless because he had zero touch or control over where it went.
he was given so much by the NFL and the fans. he had it all. millions of dollars, and he decided that instead of being thankful for this opportinuty, it was more important to smoke weed, arrange illegal dog fighting rings for gambling purposes, and trying to buy drugs under a fake name.
he was an embarrassment to the NFL. he had his chance, and lost it. the NFL doesnt need him, they do just fine without him. hed just end up being like Ricky Williams. come back as a backup and be too washed up to ever be useful again.
The only reason you laugh is out of ignorance, or if that word offends you, lack of awareness. An animal being stuffed into a cage with seven or eight other hens for its entire life while being kept in the dark to create a more stressful environment which in turn causes it to lay more eggs is cruel. And it is unnecessary. And when I say its entire life, I mean it. From days after it is born and plumped up on steroids and growth hormones until the day it dies in its cage.
And pigs, cows, chickens, goose for Fois Grois, etc. don't have it any better. But you know what animal does? A dog used for fights. And the reason I say that is because every moment of the dog's life isn't lived in agony up until its death, unlike animals raised for food (excluding organic and cage free animals which make up a very small portion of the market).
Originally posted by ninerphan420:
49lifer...Your argument is hilarious. How can you form an argument between factory farming and dog fighting? While I agree both are unethical you should continue your argument with What about the millions of microbes and soil organisms that are killed every day by vegetable producers?Do you grow everything yourself in a controlled environment in your house using solar generated lighting and trapped rain water?...Probably not soooo...... The reality is we ALL can do better has humans...vegetarian or not.
Oh I'm an organic farmer by the way so arguments like yours always give me a chuckle.
I personally think he should be given the Pacman Jones leash. Let a team take a flyer and see if he sinks or swims with all of the media pressure.
I work with troubled youth and while I won't rationalize his behavior there is a HUGE reason he behaved/behaves as he does outside of cultural argument. He deserves another chance.
Originally posted by ninerphan420:
The chuckle is in the hypocrisy you are making in your comments. My point isn't taking anything away any more than your argument already has my friend.
Millions of acres of cropland are destroyed everyday from overcropped and over worked soil . The same soil the vegetables you eat come from. The same soil the government lets massive farms pollute and destroy.
So...
Lets get back to football.
Originally posted by ninerphan420:
Explain to me how my argument is flawed please...I'd really love to know. I think I know what I'm talking about.
Do a little research and you will see exactly what I'm taking about. The same BIG breaks that are given to LARGE cattle farmers are also given to HUGE monocrop vegetable farmers. You think years of spraying herbicides and pesticides doesn't take its toll on the planet...er um YEA. I guess your factoring in that cows have feelings...But then lets close zoos and aquariums and anything that adds stress to the lives of these animals.
My point is...we ALL can do better...whether is be hoarding millions of animals into feed lots, or fighting chickens or over farming crop land. I'm all about ENDING factory farming as it is a joke...but just about everything the government chooses to regulate ( or not mainly) comes down to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
FWIW my wife is a vegetarian
Originally posted by nflguy49:
Falcons | Vick to return to Kansas prison
Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:15:39 -0700
The Associated Press reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick has been moved from an Atlanta prison and will return to a federal penitentiary in Kansas.
Originally posted by Chief:Originally posted by nflguy49:
Falcons | Vick to return to Kansas prison
Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:15:39 -0700
The Associated Press reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick has been moved from an Atlanta prison and will return to a federal penitentiary in Kansas.
Hmmmm, still making an example of the poor guy. What he did was f**ked up, but they took his career, money, life and freedom and still won't give him some slack on his first offense ever!