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Jan 3, 2025 at 11:24 PM
- Leathaface
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I wonder where he will be drafted. It seems like he's a mid to late 1st round prospect so I don't know if he will fall into a spot where we can get him unless we trade back. Is he worth it at #11 I guess is the question? He looks pretty damn good to me.
Jan 3, 2025 at 11:35 PM
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Tons of batted balls as well
i think id be good with him at 11
i think id be good with him at 11
Jan 4, 2025 at 6:24 AM
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Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
Jan 4, 2025 at 8:42 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
Jan 4, 2025 at 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
Sure you can. You wouldn't draft Dalvin at 11?
Jan 4, 2025 at 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
This. I think the best is yet to come with grant
Jan 4, 2025 at 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
If it was not for his off the field issues, he likely would've gone much higher anyways.
Jan 4, 2025 at 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
Ok I will be the Debbie downer here. I agree with NY because who the hell has coach k and this staff ever developed along the line? Bosa came in a pro. We need someone more polished technically. They have really whiffed on the d line picks over the years.
Jan 4, 2025 at 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
Ok I will be the Debbie downer here. I agree with NY because who the hell has coach k and this staff ever developed along the line? Bosa came in a pro. We need someone more polished technically. They have really whiffed on the d line picks over the years.
Who'd they whiff on besides Kinlaw?
Jan 5, 2025 at 3:35 AM
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
Ok I will be the Debbie downer here. I agree with NY because who the hell has coach k and this staff ever developed along the line? Bosa came in a pro. We need someone more polished technically. They have really whiffed on the d line picks over the years.
Who'd they whiff on besides Kinlaw?
Really? Solomon Thomas???
Jan 5, 2025 at 6:23 AM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
Sure you can. You wouldn't draft Dalvin at 11?
No. No I wouldn't
Jan 5, 2025 at 6:35 AM
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like everyone else I recognize the potential. That said no way in hell can you draft a 340lb NT that can't rush the passer in the 1st. He's a two down guy as of now.
2nd rd sure. I wouldn't want him in a trade down either.
I keep seeing Dalvin Tomlinson comps and that sounds about right.
I see zero reason why he can't be a three down player. We're talking about someone insanely athletic for his size. I think he's capable of playing one or two gap schemes, can hold up as a nose tackle or as a penetrating 3T. Just on pure effort level he's going to be pain for OLs to deal with.
T'Vondre Sweat had far bigger concerns about his size, conditioning and pass rush ability and all he's done is be a consistent monster for the Titans. In a redraft he'd be going early 1st round.
Ok I will be the Debbie downer here. I agree with NY because who the hell has coach k and this staff ever developed along the line? Bosa came in a pro. We need someone more polished technically. They have really whiffed on the d line picks over the years.
Who'd they whiff on besides Kinlaw?
Really? Solomon Thomas???
yup and even more tbh. Bosa is a slam dunk, I think dj jones was solid but they let him walk, everyone else has been a bust. Not pretty. I like Grant but not sure at 11.
Jan 5, 2025 at 7:47 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:DJ Jones?
Ok I will be the Debbie downer here. I agree with NY because who the hell has coach k and this staff ever developed along the line?
Jan 5, 2025 at 7:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Sure you can. You wouldn't draft Dalvin at 11?
Thats such an awful comparison to begin with. Tomlinson is 6'3" and 315, unexceptional athletically in every way. Slow off the line, great at holding his ground and two gapping but that's about it.
Grant is 6'3", 340 with outstanding quickness and a very good first step. He's scheme versatile and can play nose tackle or 3T.