Tyler Warren - TE/Offensive Weapon

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This. We will have a lot of options at 11. I can't see TE in the top 5 of moves to make with our first round pick.

I like him a lot as a player but unless Kyle is committed to running a 2TE offense, it'd be a waste of resources. You're hoping for an immediate starter and full time contributor.

Well, it fits within the teams stated preference to prioritize players with the ball in their hands over other things. It would also allow Kyle to get more creative and replace juice if they ran him like Harbaugh used to run Delanie Walker. It's a luxury pick for sure. Only question mark for me is he's only got one year of production whereas Bowers produced a lot more. As I get older I start to see the value in guys who produce consistently and everywhere they go.

Not really any exciting OL prospects this year. The difference between OL1 and OL6 is almost nothing. So, take a real playmaker. If DT1 and DE1 are gone - Warren would be a great pick.

Need to bring back physicality and the ability to close out games. He helps you do both.

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This. We will have a lot of options at 11. I can't see TE in the top 5 of moves to make with our first round pick.

I like him a lot as a player but unless Kyle is committed to running a 2TE offense, it'd be a waste of resources. You're hoping for an immediate starter and full time contributor.

Well, it fits within the teams stated preference to prioritize players with the ball in their hands over other things. It would also allow Kyle to get more creative and replace juice if they ran him like Harbaugh used to run Delanie Walker. It's a luxury pick for sure. Only question mark for me is he's only got one year of production whereas Bowers produced a lot more. As I get older I start to see the value in guys who produce consistently and everywhere they go.

I wish they would chuck that strategy. We had a guy who should've been MVP in CMC, a 1st team All-Pro n Kitlle, 2nd team All-Pro in Aiyuk, and Deebo who had 1000 all purpose yards. It's not likely we will get a better performance from the top skill position guys collectively.

Only thing left to do on offense is to upgrade OL, get a TE2, and a fullback replacement that can be a triple threat. Outside of OL, I wouldnt want us using a day 1 or 2 pick on those things. The biggest pluses we can add to our team are on the defensive side of the ball. We could land two starters and quality depth if we play our cards right.

This guy gets me moist

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

This. I can't see TE in the top 5 of moves to make with our first round pick.

TE ... it'd be a waste of resources.

Well, it fits within the teams stated preference to prioritize players with the ball in their hands over other things.

I wish they would chuck that strategy..... It's not likely we will get a better performance from the top skill position guys collectively.

Only thing left to do on offense is to upgrade OL, get a TE2, and a fullback replacement that can be a triple threat. Outside of OL, I wouldn't want us using a day 1 or 2 pick on those things. The biggest pluses we can add to our team are on the defensive side of the ball. We could land two starters and quality depth if we play our cards right.

Can't waste a high pick on a TE, or WR, or RB etc
49ers were 29th in points allowed!!! the defense was BAD
We have urgent needs at DT, CB, S and maybe at DE and LB

They need to really dig deep in draft analysis, and uncover hidden gems like Puni, or their superbowl window is over

It's considered a great draft for: DT, CB, S, TE
That is right where the 49ers weaknesses are. So if 49ers agree, it's an opportunity to load up in these areas

1 11 DT (or trade down if good trade offered)
2 43 DE or OL – BPA
3 75 CB
3 99 TE
4 111 S
4 137 DE or DT
4 138 CB
6 187 TE/FB
7 228 OL
7 254 LB

Free agents to sign: C-Drew Dalman, NT, Safety and LB (usually there are many good ones available and not too expensive)

2025 NFL Draft: Strongest, weakest position groups in the class
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Not really any exciting OL prospects this year. The difference between OL1 and OL6 is almost nothing. So, take a real playmaker. If DT1 and DE1 are gone - Warren would be a great pick.

Need to bring back physicality and the ability to close out games. He helps you do both.

I've seen Warren climbing a tad. He may be gone at 11. I'm also a big fan. Yes we have other needs but man, our RZ offense stinks! Imagine having to cover Kittle and Warren at the same time? Yowza! Plus Warren is a great blocker and just brings a certain swag to this team.

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by okdkid:
Not really any exciting OL prospects this year. The difference between OL1 and OL6 is almost nothing. So, take a real playmaker. If DT1 and DE1 are gone - Warren would be a great pick.

Need to bring back physicality and the ability to close out games. He helps you do both.

I've seen Warren climbing a tad. He may be gone at 11. I'm also a big fan. Yes we have other needs but man, our RZ offense stinks! Imagine having to cover Kittle and Warren at the same time? Yowza! Plus Warren is a great blocker and just brings a certain swag to this team.

I'm watching Warren and while I think it would be pretty awesome to see how Kyle would use him…I don't think he's a great in line blocker. I feel like a ton of his plays are schemed up stuff and it's not him just running amazing routes (say on 3rd down beating man). He's not a separator like Kittle is.

I agree he is a great contested catcher, plus RZ threat and YAC bro. He's got the 49er mentality.

overall compared to other TEs drafted early, I don't see the overall twitch to beat man with him.

not sure why Colston Loveland isn't getting talked about more? I think he's more athletic, better route running and overall a better pass catcher. He was stuck in a horrible passing offense this yr.

I thought Elijah Arroyo looked pretty freaking good at the SB as well. Pretty dynamic as a pass catcher. Medicals will be a big talking point there.

Unless Kyle magically changes his offensive philosophy I don't see them using a top pick on TE. I do want them to actually draft a decent TE2 for once, but I would prefer it on day2/3.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm watching Warren and while I think it would be pretty awesome to see how Kyle would use him…I don't think he's a great in line blocker. I feel like a ton of his plays are schemed up stuff and it's not him just running amazing routes (say on 3rd down beating man). He's not a separator like Kittle is.

I agree he is a great contested catcher, plus RZ threat and YAC bro. He's got the 49er mentality.

overall compared to other TEs drafted early, I don't see the overall twitch to beat man with him.

not sure why Colston Loveland isn't getting talked about more? I think he's more athletic, better route running and overall a better pass catcher. He was stuck in a horrible passing offense this yr.

I thought Elijah Arroyo looked pretty freaking good at the SB as well. Pretty dynamic as a pass catcher. Medicals will be a big talking point there.

Unless Kyle magically changes his offensive philosophy I don't see them using a top pick on TE. I do want them to actually draft a decent TE2 for once, but I would prefer it on day2/3.

By the reports I read, Warren is a good blocker and allegedly, loves to block ala kittle. Whereas same reports says Colston isn't as good as blocker. In our scheme they would definitely go for the better blocker with the receiving portion being relatively equal.

As for Arroyo, I had him going on day 3. No way he does now. I would love him on day 3.

In a perfect world We trade down in round 1. Get one of the pass rushers and pick up a day 2 pick. While getting Arroyo on day 2 along with some trench and secondary help. That would be my ideal scenario.

Originally posted by krizay:
By the reports I read, Warren is a good blocker and allegedly, loves to block ala kittle. Whereas same reports says Colston isn't as good as blocker. In our scheme they would definitely go for the better blocker with the receiving portion being relatively equal.

As for Arroyo, I had him going on day 3. No way he does now. I would love him on day 3.

In a perfect world We trade down in round 1. Get one of the pass rushers and pick up a day 2 pick. While getting Arroyo on day 2 along with some trench and secondary help. That would be my ideal scenario.

Warren from what I've seen isn't a great consistent blocker…yet. I've also seen reports of that being a negative right now. Doesn't mean he won't improve there.

He's not that inline TE like Kittle.

Colston imo is a much more twitchy polished route runner. He can beat man coverage and can separate…if he had a legit pass game this yr, he probably would be talked more about being TE1. I don't want to draft either at 11.

I mean I think Gunnar Helm can do a little bit of everything as well. He's not elite at anything, but can play all over the place and be a good contributing TE that's not gonna cost you a top 50 pick. He reminds me of Dalton Schultz.

it I'm taking a TE top 11-15 it's because you're an explosive/twitchy matchup nightmare. I don't really see that with Warren. I could be wrong, I hope someone drafts his before he get to our pick to push someone else down.

I'm down with the Krizay draft philosophy this yr and trying to move down to get more picks

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Warren from what I've seen isn't a great consistent blocker…yet. I've also seen reports of that being a negative right now. Doesn't mean he won't improve there.

He's not that inline TE like Kittle.

Colston imo is a much more twitchy polished route runner. He can beat man coverage and can separate…if he had a legit pass game this yr, he probably would be talked more about being TE1. I don't want to draft either at 11.

I mean I think Gunnar Helm can do a little bit of everything as well. He's not elite at anything, but can play all over the place and be a good contributing TE that's not gonna cost you a top 50 pick. He reminds me of Dalton Schultz.

it I'm taking a TE top 11-15 it's because you're an explosive/twitchy matchup nightmare. I don't really see that with Warren. I could be wrong, I hope someone drafts his before he get to our pick to push someone else down.

I'm down with the Krizay draft philosophy this yr and trying to move down to get more picks

I tried to like Gunner Helm. I wanted to like Gunner Helm. I just can't get in to him like that. For where he's being projected to go i wouldn't be mad at it. But I also wouldn't be excited.

Originally posted by krizay:
I tried to like Gunner Helm. I wanted to like Gunner Helm. I just can't get in to him like that. For where he's being projected to go i wouldn't be mad at it. But I also wouldn't be excited.

I agree, I don't see anything special. I think he can be a solid TE in the league (Shultz 2.0). For sure not exciting.

I feel like SF is gonna give Kittle an extension this off season.

Hoping considering how early this mock is that this isn't a Maiocco is hearing something type of mock.

The fact that he has Mike Green going to two different teams(13 picks apart too) certainly gives me hope that he was just drunk posting.

The love for Warren is predicated on him being Gronk sized. All of his negatives have to be considered under the context of him being an enormous human.

There are so many mock drafts now that it's comical. It reminds me of thise people that make predictions at the end of the year. Make enough and sooner or later one is going to be right.

With so many needs that aren't a TE, I don't see them drafting a guy like Warren, especially when they drafted one of the best tight ends in the 5th round. Jackson Hawes could be a great pick in the 5th or 6th round. He's a good blocker and has decent hands. A physical runner with the ball as well.