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Matthew Bergeron-OT/OG-Syracuse
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Feb 17, 2023 at 5:45 AM
- NYniner85
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Doesn't have that ideal length you want, but I love the physical mentality. Not sure if he's a OT or OG at the next level. Played in a zone heavy scheme. Like phoenix said he probably played his way into the 2nd after the senior bowl
Mar 13, 2023 at 1:10 PM
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If the 49ers see him holding up at tackle, he might make sense as a McGlinchey replacement. Potentially dominant run blocker that's a work in progress as a pass blocker. Just depends how early he goes.
Went back to watch more of #Syracuse LT Matthew Bergeron and I've come away more and more impressed with his foot speed, grip strength and ability to reset his hands.
— Devin Jackson (@RealD_Jackson) March 11, 2023
Athleticism was always apparent but he's got a strong punch and quick hands to recover. pic.twitter.com/Yl2hMqhIKH
Mar 13, 2023 at 2:03 PM
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He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Mar 21, 2023 at 9:52 PM
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.@CuseFootball @MatthewkBerger1 been lining up at OT since the day he left Canada to come to the 'Cuse. Lots of tape ; lots of development. Strong core strength. Vice Grip for paws. Can definitely play OT but looks like a 12 year vet at OG to me. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/dSmd9RTq4o
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Mar 22, 2023 at 8:23 AM
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Originally posted by krizay:
He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Yeah he is interesting. Profiles well as a Shanahan RT, but some work needed in his game. I don't think he is a day one starter but rather a year two starter at best. Plus 49ers would probably have to give up their 4 earliest picks to move up high enough to get him.
Mar 22, 2023 at 11:13 AM
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I love this kid but feel like he needs to be drafted as a RG. Could transfer to RT after a year or two but needs some serious coaching in pass protection. Love the size and athleticism though. I don't see him as a day 1 McGlinchey replacement. We cant expose our QBs coming off injuries.
Mar 22, 2023 at 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Originally posted by krizay:
He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Yeah he is interesting. Profiles well as a Shanahan RT, but some work needed in his game. I don't think he is a day one starter but rather a year two starter at best. Plus 49ers would probably have to give up their 4 earliest picks to move up high enough to get him.
I think we have too many needs to pay that kind of price.
Mar 22, 2023 at 1:01 PM
- Luckycharms
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Originally posted by krizay:
He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Yeah he is interesting. Profiles well as a Shanahan RT, but some work needed in his game. I don't think he is a day one starter but rather a year two starter at best. Plus 49ers would probably have to give up their 4 earliest picks to move up high enough to get him.
I think we have too many needs to pay that kind of price.
I see a lot of places have him going like 55-70 overall. If Niners think he could be their future RT they could package 99, 101 and a 3rd or 4th next year for him
Apr 1, 2023 at 8:22 AM
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Smart. Good size. Strong. Versatile. This is the guy I hope the 49ers take with their first pick.
Apr 1, 2023 at 1:06 PM
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Originally posted by kansasninerfan:
Smart. Good size. Strong. Versatile. This is the guy I hope the 49ers take with their first pick.
I wouldn't move up for him. Like him a monster in the run game. He's far from consistent as a pass-blocker. Not sure if you want to move up for that and I got a feeling SF would have to if there were trying to land him. Just my two cents
Apr 1, 2023 at 1:57 PM
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If the Niners have their eyes on someone they are counting on for a key contribution they could move up whatever the position. Might go up for a RT or pass rusher but not a S of the future or depth
Apr 3, 2023 at 6:37 PM
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Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Originally posted by krizay:
He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Yeah he is interesting. Profiles well as a Shanahan RT, but some work needed in his game. I don't think he is a day one starter but rather a year two starter at best. Plus 49ers would probably have to give up their 4 earliest picks to move up high enough to get him.
I think we have too many needs to pay that kind of price.
I see a lot of places have him going like 55-70 overall. If Niners think he could be their future RT they could package 99, 101 and a 3rd or 4th next year for him
They can get a future RT at 99, 101, or 102 and miss out on a FS, DE, etc from that trade up, for a guy that still will likely sit in year 1. I do like the player though, but trading picks this year isn't the move.
Apr 3, 2023 at 6:44 PM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Originally posted by krizay:
He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Yeah he is interesting. Profiles well as a Shanahan RT, but some work needed in his game. I don't think he is a day one starter but rather a year two starter at best. Plus 49ers would probably have to give up their 4 earliest picks to move up high enough to get him.
I think we have too many needs to pay that kind of price.
I see a lot of places have him going like 55-70 overall. If Niners think he could be their future RT they could package 99, 101 and a 3rd or 4th next year for him
They can get a future RT at 99, 101, or 102 and miss out on a FS, DE, etc from that trade up, for a guy that still will likely sit in year 1. I do like the player though, but trading picks this year isn't the move.
I go back and forth on this. We are in essence talking about high 4th round picks here. I get it that they can use depth, but if I get a shot at a bookend OT, I'm OK with trading up.
Apr 3, 2023 at 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Luckycharms:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
Originally posted by krizay:
He's my #1 OT for us. Strong chance he's gone by our pick but..
Yeah he is interesting. Profiles well as a Shanahan RT, but some work needed in his game. I don't think he is a day one starter but rather a year two starter at best. Plus 49ers would probably have to give up their 4 earliest picks to move up high enough to get him.
I think we have too many needs to pay that kind of price.
I see a lot of places have him going like 55-70 overall. If Niners think he could be their future RT they could package 99, 101 and a 3rd or 4th next year for him
They can get a future RT at 99, 101, or 102 and miss out on a FS, DE, etc from that trade up, for a guy that still will likely sit in year 1. I do like the player though, but trading picks this year isn't the move.
I go back and forth on this. We are in essence talking about high 4th round picks here. I get it that they can use depth, but if I get a shot at a bookend OT, I'm OK with trading up.
Because of how our staff develops players, I don't see it simply as depth. Some players might be depth, some might turn out to be some really good starters, and we know good starters are found in every round. Yes, it's harder the lower in the draft you go, but having so many picks on day 2 and day 3 feeds right into the strength of what we do. It's not just the idea of a bookend tackle, but is this OT at pick 70 something that much better than the tackle at 99? I don't see it and it's not worth what would be given up. It might be just two 5ths and a 7th, but considering how well we draft late, I'd rather have as many shots at it as possible. If they must move up, package a pick from next year, but I think should generally stay put with their 3rds. Also, given that it's deep at TE, tackle, safety, and edge, why not double dip?
[ Edited by LifelongNiner on Apr 3, 2023 at 10:38 PM ]
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