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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by English:
A safety with a high 1st rounder? Wouldn't be my choice.

I agree

It just depends tbh. People said the same thing about Jamal Adams and yet they flipped him for two firsts. I think Hamilton is a better player too.

Keys to the Saleh D imo pass rush, linebackers who can cover, physical long corners, talented safeties.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by English:
A safety with a high 1st rounder? Wouldn't be my choice.

I agree

It just depends tbh. People said the same thing about Jamal Adams and yet they flipped him for two firsts. I think Hamilton is a better player too.

Keys to the Saleh D imo pass rush, linebackers who can cover, physical long corners, talented safeties.

I watched their game against the Titans was was filled with big splash plays. Going to be interesting to watch more. But I'd definitely say they need to add edge help. With the picks they have, they can honestly knock out the defense in a year. They also need to add a RB as none of their guys were really able to get it going for them. Maybe they approach a cash strapped team like the Bucs or Saints for one of their big contract players and make two trades, filling in the rest of the holes via the draft.
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It wouldn't shock me if Jets propose a grandfather offer for Bosa. For example - their 10th overall pick and both of their 2nd round picks.
I would take an OT and CB with those first round picks

then round 2-4 round draft a bunch of DL and EDGE guys
[ Edited by ritz126 on Feb 16, 2022 at 6:54 AM ]
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by English:
A safety with a high 1st rounder? Wouldn't be my choice.

I agree

It just depends tbh. People said the same thing about Jamal Adams and yet they flipped him for two firsts. I think Hamilton is a better player too.

True but Seattle's defense hasnt much improved since adding him and they lost 2 first rounders. The Jets obviously sucked with him too.

I just dont like the value there. Would be diffferent if the defense had an elite pass rush.
Originally posted by NTeply49:
Hamilton is like a super sized Ed Reed. Cam Chancelors size with way more upside in coverage. I think he might actually be the best overall player in the draft. if he runs a sub 4.5 at 6'4, he has the potential to be the highest drafted safety ever.

A lot of mock drafts I've seen have the Jets taking him. He's just too much of a freak at his position to ignore. As a prospect he combines some of the best traits of Ed Reed and Kam Chancellor.

https://www.nfl.com/news/three-round-2022-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-five-trades-five-qbs-selected-in-round-1

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2022-steelers-commanders-buccaneers/ojyvtezywjjt3msse1rjpueu

https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/2022-jets-mock-draft-1-0-espn-mel-kiper-kyle-hamilton-drake-london
To truly get the draft the Jets experience you need a whole lot of new yorkers booing you viciously as you make the picks
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NTeply49:
Hamilton is like a super sized Ed Reed. Cam Chancelors size with way more upside in coverage. I think he might actually be the best overall player in the draft. if he runs a sub 4.5 at 6'4, he has the potential to be the highest drafted safety ever.

A lot of mock drafts I've seen have the Jets taking him. He's just too much of a freak at his position to ignore. As a prospect he combines some of the best traits of Ed Reed and Kam Chancellor.

https://www.nfl.com/news/three-round-2022-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-five-trades-five-qbs-selected-in-round-1

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2022-steelers-commanders-buccaneers/ojyvtezywjjt3msse1rjpueu

https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/2022-jets-mock-draft-1-0-espn-mel-kiper-kyle-hamilton-drake-london

Combining Ed Reed and Kam Chancellor doesn't even sound real lmao that's literally a create-a-player if he can really be like that
Originally posted by 91til:
Combining Ed Reed and Kam Chancellor doesn't even sound real lmao that's literally a create-a-player if he can really be like that

He's 6'4" 220, he excels in deep coverage but also has zero issue playing up near the line of scrimmage, putting huge hits on people. Football IQ and recognition are top tier, tremendous athlete overall.

I'm not saying that is what he'll be in the NFL but he's a pretty ridiculous prospect.
Originally posted by 4ML:
It wouldn't shock me if Jets propose a grandfather offer for Bosa. For example - their 10th overall pick and both of their 2nd round picks.

Players like Bosa take a lot of looking for. It is quite easy to draft a couple of busts and an average dude with the haul you mention. I hope we would tell Saleh to find his own Edge rusher.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by 4ML:
It wouldn't shock me if Jets propose a grandfather offer for Bosa. For example - their 10th overall pick and both of their 2nd round picks.

Players like Bosa take a lot of looking for. It is quite easy to draft a couple of busts and an average dude with the haul you mention. I hope we would tell Saleh to find his own Edge rusher.

Yeah, I hope Saleh just finds a way to get Hutchinson to get his Bosa esque player, he can't have ours. Unless of course they want to offer that package of picks to the Chargers for Joey.
Honestly I feel like this draft is pretty underwhelming at the top...I know a lot of draft guys have a grade scale and I'm not seeing a bunch of high end elite dudes overall. We got a couple solid tackle prospects and a couple good edge prospects. None of those dudes are the Bosa's brothers or Myles. I think Hamilton is a guy who can be an elite S and Tyler Linderbaum is gonna be a stud center.
Originally posted by 4ML:
It wouldn't shock me if Jets propose a grandfather offer for Bosa. For example - their 10th overall pick and both of their 2nd round picks.

Why would SF want that? Who's better at 10 overall than Bosa? This draft stinks at the top...both EDGE guys aren't close to Bosa and the best player in this draft is probably a safety Bosa would hands down be the #1 pick in this draft. If Lance was in this draft, he's the #1 overall pick just as easily.

Just because it's a high pick doesn't mean guys are better or gonna be better....There's a couple decent lineman and some okay EDGE guys at the top, draft is weak at the top. You can find some fine players on day 2 of the draft that can get the job done just as well in this draft.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by English:
A safety with a high 1st rounder? Wouldn't be my choice.

I agree

It just depends tbh. People said the same thing about Jamal Adams and yet they flipped him for two firsts. I think Hamilton is a better player too.

Keys to the Saleh D imo pass rush, linebackers who can cover, physical long corners, talented safeties.

so the keys to Salehs defense is …a talented defense?
[ Edited by Ghostofabshelmet on Feb 16, 2022 at 12:14 PM ]
Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by English:
A safety with a high 1st rounder? Wouldn't be my choice.

I agree

It just depends tbh. People said the same thing about Jamal Adams and yet they flipped him for two firsts. I think Hamilton is a better player too.

Keys to the Saleh D imo pass rush, linebackers who can cover, physical long corners, talented safeties.

so the keys to Salehs defense is …a talented defense?

I'm sure every defense needs these types of players... don't overthink this Kyle Hamilton is a beast. I hate throwing this word out but he is a legit generational talent at the safety position. I was a huge derwin James fan but Hamilton looks to be much better than him. I don't remember a time that a safety prospect was this damn good. Probably earl Thomas or even as far back as sean taylor. Is he a guaranteed star? No but no draft pick in history Is.
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