First, the good. I like Jordan Davis, Dohnovan West, and Alontae Taylor, and I like each of them a lot.
However, Jordan Davis is likely a first rounder, and not sure why his seemingly freakish athleticism and his undeniably freakish size would HURT his draft stock after the combine. He is a key member on the best defense in CFB. West and Taylor are also likely to both be day two picks. Alec Pierce definitely gets drafted.
We are weak at edge outside of Bosa, and while you did nothing to help the position, you actually made the team worse by getting rid of AA. I understand a lot of fans don't like the contract, and don't like getting rid of Buckner, but those things already happened. We can't compound bad decisions with more bad decisions.
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Nov 26, 2021 at 12:48 PM
- adrianlesnar
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Nov 26, 2021 at 12:49 PM
- 49ersFan_vienna
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is there a chance we net a First for Jimmy?
Nov 26, 2021 at 1:28 PM
- NinerLegionnaire
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
First, the good. I like Jordan Davis, Dohnovan West, and Alontae Taylor, and I like each of them a lot.
However, Jordan Davis is likely a first rounder, and not sure why his seemingly freakish athleticism and his undeniably freakish size would HURT his draft stock after the combine. He is a key member on the best defense in CFB. West and Taylor are also likely to both be day two picks. Alec Pierce definitely gets drafted.
We are weak at edge outside of Bosa, and while you did nothing to help the position, you actually made the team worse by getting rid of AA. I understand a lot of fans don't like the contract, and don't like getting rid of Buckner, but those things already happened. We can't compound bad decisions with more bad decisions.
I should have phrased it better. I think Jordan Davis is seen as a 1T with some pass rush potential, but hes more of an elite run defender who can bull rush. I think 3T and 5T are more valued in the 1st. After the combine others will rise, and I can see a team not wanting to spend their 1st on a 1T that doesn't really have any pass rush moves. At the same time you are also right and I could definitely see the Eagles taking him with 1 of their 1st rounders.
With West and Taylor there seems to be players not only ahead of them but around them that fit certain schemes better than others. Again though they could definitely go earlier, this early I am more focused on building and filling the team out. So less player more position and draft slot.
On AA were gonna have to agree to disagree.
AA isn't our 2nd best pass rusher Arden Key is. Doubtful Key and others are retained with Armstead's 20 million cap hit. Re-signing Key is doing something.
Next Edge rusher isn't as weak as the Interior. Kinlaw hasn't lived up to potential yet although he has been injured. DJ jones will more than likely be paid more than the team can afford. Outside of those 2 you have guys like Kevin Givens and Kentavius Street who have both been inconsistent vs the run.
Talent and Cap-wise Nick Bosa and Dee Ford are locks. Samson Ebukam is under contract and Arden Key has been the 2nd best pass rusher. That's a solid rush rotation.
On the Interior Kinlaw is recovering from Knee Surgery and I expect DJ Jones to be gone. Charles Omenihu is a 5T similar to Armstead, both of which are strong side run defenders who kick inside on passing downs. IMO Bosa, Key, Ebukam/Ford are enough to justify moving on from Armstead at 20 million as a pass rusher. The moves I made inside counter his loss as a run defender, and save money.
If Jordan Davis does go 1st, it doesn't change much. They need to identify an interior run defender with pass rush potential and an interior OL most likely Center to be an understudy for Alex Mack and potentially push the guards for a spot. Maybe you trade up for OL instead and identify a mid round run defender.
I did touch on restructures a tiny bit, maybe there are some obvious moves to make room both short term and long term, but for me I see Jimmy G, AA, and McGlinchey as contracts that need to be moved for short and more importantly long term flexibility.
Nov 26, 2021 at 1:30 PM
- NinerLegionnaire
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Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
is there a chance we net a First for Jimmy?
Lol only if he's on the roster week 8 and a team who is 8-0 just lost its starter for the season, and even then idk.
I would expect a future mid round pick and possibly an underachieving player whose contract is also about to expire.
Nov 26, 2021 at 3:14 PM
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Tyrod Taylor would start over Lance. He's too good to back him up.
Nov 26, 2021 at 4:43 PM
- 9moon
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those Aztecs from San Diego gots some Diamond in The Rough type of players !!!
DE - Cam Thomas ( late 2nd to mid 3rd)
P/PK - Matt Araiza ( Kyle and Lynch are smart enough to gamble on hurt players in the 2nd round, why not take trade down in the 3rd and take this guy.. not only will he be the best punter in the NFL after his 2nd game, he can also be a replacement to Gould
WR - Jesse Matthews ( best hands in NCAA this year... will be a steal early in the 5th ) !!
DE - Cam Thomas ( late 2nd to mid 3rd)
P/PK - Matt Araiza ( Kyle and Lynch are smart enough to gamble on hurt players in the 2nd round, why not take trade down in the 3rd and take this guy.. not only will he be the best punter in the NFL after his 2nd game, he can also be a replacement to Gould
WR - Jesse Matthews ( best hands in NCAA this year... will be a steal early in the 5th ) !!
Nov 27, 2021 at 10:52 AM
- FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Tyrod Taylor would start over Lance. He's too good to back him up.
Still salty they took Lance huh? Your hatred is childish if you think Lance isn't going to start next year add the fact you think a guy like Taylor new to the system is going to come here and start over Lance. Stop crying and accept the fact Lance is the future and it's beyond comical you think Taylor is some awesome qb that you believe he'll start over Lance
[ Edited by FredFlintstone on Nov 27, 2021 at 10:53 AM ]
Nov 27, 2021 at 12:54 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Tyrod Taylor would start over Lance. He's too good to back him up.
Yeah, right. Sure he is.
Nov 27, 2021 at 1:08 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Your draft valuations on the top two picks are wishful thinking. Both David and Nelson are first rounders. Those two needs (DT and OT) should also be further down the list after CB, SS, Edge and WR.
Like Dohnovan West and Alontae Taylor picks. Solid values at positions of need.
Like Dohnovan West and Alontae Taylor picks. Solid values at positions of need.