Bosa goes number 1

I am starting to doubt there will be a kings ransom on offer.

So what is your minimum and how far down will you trade to?

I'd trade back with OAK at #4 and take Allen.

Trade back for the best pass rusher available (eg. Josh Allen, Ed Oliver, M Sweat etc) plus a bucketful of picks

Originally posted by mayo49:

I'd trade back with OAK at #4 and take Allen.

I like that, give another 1st for either Harry or Adderley please..

Don't see a big massive trade offer.

But, if Raiders want to trade up for Murray - I'd be happy to move down 2 spots if they fork up 24th and their 2nd round pick next year. Q will likely be there at 4 for us.

Then we can move up from 24th to mid teens to draft Burns or db and really set up our defense.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Don't see a big massive trade offer.

But, if Raiders want to trade up for Murray - I'd be happy to move down 2 spots if they fork up 24th and their 2nd round pick next year. Q will likely be there at 4 for us.

Then we can move up from 24th to mid teens to draft Burns or db and really set up our defense.

I can dig this.

Trade back to 4 and still take Williams. Use the extra pick(s) to jump way up from 36 and take Burns.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Trade back to 4 and still take Williams. Use the extra pick(s) to jump way up from 36 and take Burns.

You don't think NYJ take Williams at #3?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Trade back to 4 and still take Williams. Use the extra pick(s) to jump way up from 36 and take Burns.

You don't think NYJ take Williams at #3?

I think they take Allen.

And I think we laugh at them and take Williams.

Maybe we can work some magic in a trade, it probably wouldn't be the Kings ransom that some of you would be hoping for.

How I see it is if AZ is giving the worlds craziest smokescreen on Murray and the plan all along was to move down... if they couldn't find a trade partner not sure how we could?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Maybe we can work some magic in a trade, it probably wouldn't be the Kings ransom that some of you would be hoping for.

How I see it is if AZ is giving the worlds craziest smokescreen on Murray and the plan all along was to move down... if they couldn't find a trade partner not sure how we could?

Maybe they don't view the offers they receive as substantial enough to pass on Bosa. With Bosa gone, that wouldn't be an issue for us.

4, 24, and 35 isn't a huge draft haul for the top QB, but it would do a lot to make us more dangerous this year.

The Raiders would still have 2 and 27 to start the draft with and 8 picks overall, which isn't bad.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Maybe we can work some magic in a trade, it probably wouldn't be the Kings ransom that some of you would be hoping for.

How I see it is if AZ is giving the worlds craziest smokescreen on Murray and the plan all along was to move down... if they couldn't find a trade partner not sure how we could?

Maybe they don't view the offers they receive as substantial enough to pass on Bosa. With Bosa gone, that wouldn't be an issue for us.

4, 24, and 35 isn't a huge draft haul for the top QB, but it would do a lot to make us more dangerous this year.

The Raiders would still have 2 and 27 to start the draft with and 8 picks overall, which isn't bad.

If the Raiders were offering that package of picks to move up, you can bet that Arizona would accept that offer over selecting Bosa at #1. There is no way in hell we are getting an extra first and early second for dropping a couple spots.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Maybe we can work some magic in a trade, it probably wouldn't be the Kings ransom that some of you would be hoping for.

How I see it is if AZ is giving the worlds craziest smokescreen on Murray and the plan all along was to move down... if they couldn't find a trade partner not sure how we could?

Maybe they don't view the offers they receive as substantial enough to pass on Bosa. With Bosa gone, that wouldn't be an issue for us.

4, 24, and 35 isn't a huge draft haul for the top QB, but it would do a lot to make us more dangerous this year.

The Raiders would still have 2 and 27 to start the draft with and 8 picks overall, which isn't bad.

If the Raiders were offering that package of picks to move up, you can bet that Arizona would accept that offer over selecting Bosa at #1. There is no way in hell we are getting an extra first and early second for dropping a couple spots.

Don't look at it in terms of dropping two spots. Look at it for what it actually is: outbidding any competition for the spot. If the Raiders at 4 and the Dolphins at 13 want Murray, one of them will have to make a better offer. Historically, Miami would need to offer at least their first this year and their first next year, along with some distribution of twos and threes over this draft and the next. It would likely amount to 4-5 picks total. Having three firsts this year, the Raiders could outbid them by surrendering far less picks. They try just 4 and 24, Miami counters with 13, 48 in 2019, plus their one and two next year. Miami looks poised to suck buckets of ass this year, and the QB crop in 2020 will create a crazy market for trade downs, so the package looks interesting. Oakland offers 4, 24, and next year's two. Miami adds 78 to their offer.
Oakland says, "We still think our offer is better."
The 49ers say, "Yeah, well we thought our offer for Mack was better, too. Think what you want. Miami is giving us the picks this year, where we need them. Beat it, dorks."
Oakland says, "Oh, you still remember the Mack thing? Ummm, what if we move that 2020 two up to a 2019 two?"
49ers say, "That's what I thought. Have fun in the Coliseum this year, b!tches."
The Raiders say (under their breath), "...no one has fun in the Coliseum"

That said, if there's no competition for the pick, the compensation would be much lower, and I don't think the 49ers would move off of 2.