Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread) | Page 371

Heroism · 2018-04-28T20:56:14-07:00

Getting an early start on my #1 2019 draft crush. I'd trade it all for Baby Bosa. Two NFL personnel men predicted last week that the early favorite to become the No. 1 pick of the 2019 NFL Draft is....Ohio St. DE Nick Bosa. They believe he's going to be a better player than his older brother Joey.— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 28, 2018

Mar 8, 2019 at 7:51 PM

#5551

fan49
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Originally posted by jgarf08:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
This is the s**t I'm talking about...Bosa f**ks up plays period

5 straight plays. Bosa involved in QB hits, pressure or tackle. This is not including his 2 sacks and fumble recovery he had this game. Every down he has to be accounted for. pic.twitter.com/vYbS4q9c8v
— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) March 8, 2019

My love for Josh Allen is well documented. And I have even mentioned I don't think Bosa is on the Myles Garrett/Von Miller level.

That being said, if the 49ers have the chance to draft Nick Bosa, you run the card to the commish..don't over think it. Well combine, injury, blah blah blah...draft him and thank your lucky stars you were in position to.

Injury blah blah blah. His brother doesn't play when he's slightly hurt, and his dad had a career ending injury

Mar 8, 2019 at 7:53 PM

#5552

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Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by fan49:
I'm looking at his numbers, and that he has had NFL coaching his whole life. So I doubt he'll get that much better in the NFL.

Look, just put Nick Bosa Vs into YouTube, it shows all the snaps he played in that game, takes between 4-8 mins. Watch one of those and then come back.

Stats are nice to use as a quick point of reference, but is worse than highlights are for evaluating players from.

Your not seeing my point. The sack count, is relevant. But the fact that he's had NFL coaching his whole life tells me,. He won't get too much better.

I think you're underestimating how often players get coached up to do stuff then once in a game players revert back to bad habits they have been doing their whole life(Kap, Tebow). Having a player who's technique is second nature to them is amazing and not a knock.

Mar 8, 2019 at 7:54 PM

#5553

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Originally posted by All22:
If they're gonna take Murray then they might as well trade back. No one else wants him in the top 5 at least. Maybe even the top-10.

You think so? I think few teams would be stoopid not to take Murray, like the raiders. And if the cards drop out of the top 5 thinking Murray will still be there, that's be a big mistake because I don't think anyone in the top 7 would have a problem dropping down a little because the top 10 is pretty stacked.

Mar 8, 2019 at 7:59 PM

#5554

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So Joey played 7 games one season, 12 another. So only played one season fully. His dad had career ending injury. Nick has missed almost a whole season, tore his ACL senior year in highschool school. But no one can see he has a better chance to miss games than most due to injury lol.

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:00 PM

#5555

Hysterikal
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Originally posted by fan49:
So Joey played 7 games one season, 12 another. So only played one season fully. His dad had career ending injury. Nick has missed almost a whole season, tore his ACL senior year in highschool school. But no one can see he has a better chance to miss games than most due to injury lol.

Still BPA

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:04 PM

#5556

fan49
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by fan49:
So Joey played 7 games one season, 12 another. So only played one season fully. His dad had career ending injury. Nick has missed almost a whole season, tore his ACL senior year in highschool school. But no one can see he has a better chance to miss games than most due to injury lol.

Still BPA

So let's get a player that probably is injury prone

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:05 PM

#5557

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Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by All22:
If they're gonna take Murray then they might as well trade back. No one else wants him in the top 5 at least. Maybe even the top-10.

You think so? I think few teams would be stoopid not to take Murray, like the raiders. And if the cards drop out of the top 5 thinking Murray will still be there, that's be a big mistake because I don't think anyone in the top 7 would have a problem dropping down a little because the top 10 is pretty stacked.

You know Gruden likes big guys that can get under center and prefer to throw from the pocket. So I'm thinking he'd prefer Haskins, as would most of the league.

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:20 PM

#5558

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Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by fan49:
So Joey played 7 games one season, 12 another. So only played one season fully. His dad had career ending injury. Nick has missed almost a whole season, tore his ACL senior year in highschool school. But no one can see he has a better chance to miss games than most due to injury lol.

Still BPA
So let's get a player that probably is injury prone

Yep

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:22 PM

#5559

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Originally posted by All22:
You know Gruden likes big guys that can get under center and prefer to throw from the pocket. So I'm thinking he'd prefer Haskins, as would most of the league.

You think most of the league prefers Haskins over Murray? I'd definitely go Murray. I thought Haskins graded low when under pressure?

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:25 PM

#5560

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Originally posted by frankieuc68:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I thought it was cause the 49ers didn't show up in the first half and fade passes

Damn that still hurts

Yep. Gave a

Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our secondary under harbaugh was better than our secondary today. TBrown/Culliver/Whitner/Goldson vs Moe/Larry/Curly/Sherman.

The secondary wasn't about anything until Aldon came along. Whitner was a disappointing former 1st rounder. Rogers was largely seen as a bust. Goldson was meh before that and would go on to fall right off a cliff as soon as he left the 49ers.

That front seven which was absolutely devastating at times made the whole secondary look so much better. Go watch the second half of the 49ers vs Giants NFCCG in which Eli took one of the biggest beatdowns that I've ever seen any QB take.
Makes me giggle out loud.

Thanks for posting. 20 hits on Eli on 64 dropbacks. Turned it off right before that punt to Williams. Would've beat the Pats by 20.

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:39 PM

#5561

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Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I thought it was cause the 49ers didn't show up in the first half and fade passes

Damn that still hurts

Yep. Gave a
Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our secondary under harbaugh was better than our secondary today. TBrown/Culliver/Whitner/Goldson vs Moe/Larry/Curly/Sherman.

The secondary wasn't about anything until Aldon came along. Whitner was a disappointing former 1st rounder. Rogers was largely seen as a bust. Goldson was meh before that and would go on to fall right off a cliff as soon as he left the 49ers.

That front seven which was absolutely devastating at times made the whole secondary look so much better. Go watch the second half of the 49ers vs Giants NFCCG in which Eli took one of the biggest beatdowns that I've ever seen any QB take.
Makes me giggle out loud.

Thanks for posting. 20 hits on Eli on 64 dropbacks. Turned it off right before that punt to Williams. Would've beat the Pats by 20.

I was watching that game with non-football fan friends and they thought I was nuts. I was screaming at the TV when I saw Kyle out there on the field for the second punt. "NOOOOO Harbaugh get him outta there!!!!" Sad sad day. Then Harbs opts for a short punt on our last drive and instead of a pooch kick pinning the Giants back, our great punter gives the Giants the ball at the 20. FU... Choke job all around.

Mar 8, 2019 at 8:40 PM

#5562

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Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by fan49:
I'm looking at his numbers, and that he has had NFL coaching his whole life. So I doubt he'll get that much better in the NFL.

Look, just put Nick Bosa Vs into YouTube, it shows all the snaps he played in that game, takes between 4-8 mins. Watch one of those and then come back.

Stats are nice to use as a quick point of reference, but is worse than highlights are for evaluating players from.

Your not seeing my point. The sack count, is relevant. But the fact that he's had NFL coaching his whole life tells me,. He won't get too much better.

Just ridiculous, in the time it took you to come up with that nonsense you could have watched him.

I'm done debating with you, since you love sack numbers so much I will bet you Nick gets over 10 sacks his rookie year.

Mar 8, 2019 at 9:09 PM

#5563

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Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I thought it was cause the 49ers didn't show up in the first half and fade passes

Damn that still hurts

Yep. Gave a
Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Our secondary under harbaugh was better than our secondary today. TBrown/Culliver/Whitner/Goldson vs Moe/Larry/Curly/Sherman.

The secondary wasn't about anything until Aldon came along. Whitner was a disappointing former 1st rounder. Rogers was largely seen as a bust. Goldson was meh before that and would go on to fall right off a cliff as soon as he left the 49ers.

That front seven which was absolutely devastating at times made the whole secondary look so much better. Go watch the second half of the 49ers vs Giants NFCCG in which Eli took one of the biggest beatdowns that I've ever seen any QB take.
Makes me giggle out loud.

Thanks for posting. 20 hits on Eli on 64 dropbacks. Turned it off right before that punt to Williams. Would've beat the Pats by 20.

What a damn shame . That game still pisses me off . If Williams didn't fumble that punt the giants would have never scored because our df was rag dolling eli manning that whole damn game and we would have won that game eventually damn it !!!!

Mar 8, 2019 at 9:18 PM

#5564

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Maybe if the cards draft kyler and we draft nick bosa that will be the start of unlocking the jim harbaugh curse lol and things will finally be looking up for the niners franchise . Its a damn shame that we didn't win atleast 2 super bowls during that era of niners football .

Mar 8, 2019 at 11:51 PM

#5565

All22
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Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by All22:
You know Gruden likes big guys that can get under center and prefer to throw from the pocket. So I'm thinking he'd prefer Haskins, as would most of the league.

You think most of the league prefers Haskins over Murray? I'd definitely go Murray. I thought Haskins graded low when under pressure?

Film Room: Why Dwayne Haskins is the top quarterback in the 2019 NFL Draft

I like Murray and he has a higher ceiling but Haskins is more of the traditional QB mold that teams really like. OSU's offense was also a lot more "Pro-Style" than it was under Urban Meyer so that's a huge advantage he'll have over spread QB's like Murray.