So what do we do in the 2018 draft now we have Jimmy G? | Page 13

Buchy · 2017-11-01T03:57:35-07:00

So I appreciate there's a draft forum but it's less visited and often more about specific players or position groups rather than strategy. So I thought I'd throw it out to the floor that now we have Jimmy G (who I see being franchised as a worst case), what are people's preferences and expectations for the draft now. I think a lot of people may prefer we draft Barkley but expect a trade down for example. Personally, I'm of the opinion that as good as Barkley looks to be, if we are investing in a QB who we think and hope will become a franchise QB then the best strategy is to protect that investment. If we had a solid Oline and we may rectify that in FA, then Barkley makes sense. So throwing it to the floor, what would people prefer we do? Personally I am for addressing the Oline in FA and if confident in them drafting Barkley, but that means a bidding war in FA and I'm not up to speed on who will be available in FA and if they justify what it would take. I think the number one priority now is to protect Jimmy G.

Dec 4, 2017 at 12:20 PM

#181

Giedi
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Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:
Trade down and protect Jimmy G with the best O-Line for Shanny's system.

Agree

Dec 4, 2017 at 12:20 PM

#182

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Pretty much this. Someone will fall in love with Lamar/Allen. I wouldnt be shocked if QBs go 1-4.

I would. That never happens.

With the rookie wage scales and QB desperate teams... You never know.

1, 2, 3 ... Couch, McNabb, Akili Smith... that's the only draft I can think of...

Hey nice job my dude. I mean in 2011 4 QBs went within 12 picks

Dec 4, 2017 at 12:57 PM

#183

DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
After watching what Jimmy can do, I'm all for getting the best WR prospect. We need better WRs. Taylor is a good piece, as is Goodwin, but we need a #1 and #2, and who knows how much Garcon has left.

Don't you want a better OLine so Jimmy gets time in the pocket?

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:01 PM

#184

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
After watching what Jimmy can do, I'm all for getting the best WR prospect. We need better WRs. Taylor is a good piece, as is Goodwin, but we need a #1 and #2, and who knows how much Garcon has left.

Don't you want a better OLine so Jimmy gets time in the pocket?

To be honest, I'm sure we'll get some more plug-and-play Olinemen (and maybe a blue chip FA), but Jimmy G made our Olinemen look much better than they have recently.

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:19 PM

#185

DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
After watching what Jimmy can do, I'm all for getting the best WR prospect. We need better WRs. Taylor is a good piece, as is Goodwin, but we need a #1 and #2, and who knows how much Garcon has left.

Don't you want a better OLine so Jimmy gets time in the pocket?

To be honest, I'm sure we'll get some more plug-and-play Olinemen (and maybe a blue chip FA), but Jimmy G made our Olinemen look much better than they have recently.

I think we need to take an OG with our 1st or 2nd pick, and then pick up another G/C in FA

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:19 PM

#186

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Darnold, Rosen, Jackson very well could go 1-3. And then there's no guarantee that browns even go QB in the first place. 3 is still a good place to be.

[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Dec 4, 2017 at 1:20 PM ]

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:21 PM

#187

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Darnold, Rosen, Jackson very well could go 1-3. And then there's no guarantee that browns even go QB in the first place. 3 is still a good place to be.

Parties for both Darnold and Rosen are talking about the potential of staying another year...to avoid the browns? I think Jackson needs another season in college and may stay too...

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:29 PM

#188

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
After watching what Jimmy can do, I'm all for getting the best WR prospect. We need better WRs. Taylor is a good piece, as is Goodwin, but we need a #1 and #2, and who knows how much Garcon has left.

Don't you want a better OLine so Jimmy gets time in the pocket?

To be honest, I'm sure we'll get some more plug-and-play Olinemen (and maybe a blue chip FA), but Jimmy G made our Olinemen look much better than they have recently.

I think we need to take an OG with our 1st or 2nd pick, and then pick up another G/C in FA

WR in the 1st, G in the 2nd, CB in 3rd, G/C in FA (blue chip)...

Unless we can trade down (with Buffalo) and then maybe a blue-chip MLB would be feasible too...

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:31 PM

#189

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Draft a LT to eventually replace Staley that can start out as a guard. This accomplishes two things. Garnett will be back and deserves a shot. In the 2nd I'd draft the best WR available. The packers 3 WR's are all 2nd rounders. In the 3rd I'd draft #32 from bama. Can't recall his name at the moment. He's taken over for Foster as the Best LB this season. In later rounds I'd take a safety and move Ward back to corner.

Free Agency could tweak this. They'll go after same positions there as well. In FA I'd throw money at OL, WR, CB

Dec 4, 2017 at 1:32 PM

#190

DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
WR in the 1st, G in the 2nd, CB in 3rd, G/C in FA (blue chip)...

Unless we can trade down (with Buffalo) and then maybe a blue-chip MLB would be feasible too...

I think I'm cool with that, as long as the WR is Ridley. R. Smith would be nice to put next to Foster as well with our first pick.

[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Dec 4, 2017 at 1:32 PM ]

Dec 4, 2017 at 3:26 PM

#191

Austrian49er
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Originally posted by Giedi:

I agree!!!

Dec 4, 2017 at 3:36 PM

#192

NorthBay49er
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Barkley, Fitzpatrick, Nelson. If we get any of these with the 1st pick I'll be elated.

Dec 4, 2017 at 7:18 PM

#193

adrianlesnar
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Originally posted by jcs:
Parties for both Darnold and Rosen are talking about the potential of staying another year...to avoid the browns? I think Jackson needs another season in college and may stay too...

Darnold has already denied the rumors of staying in school. I have nothing of the sort of Rosen, and he'd be dumb to stay. I see no way he can boost his stock further with a chip kelly offense coming to town. And Jackson is rumored to be declaring.

Dec 4, 2017 at 7:26 PM

#194

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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by jcs:
Parties for both Darnold and Rosen are talking about the potential of staying another year...to avoid the browns? I think Jackson needs another season in college and may stay too...

Darnold has already denied the rumors of staying in school. I have nothing of the sort of Rosen, and he'd be dumb to stay. I see no way he can boost his stock further with a chip kelly offense coming to town. And Jackson is rumored to be declaring.

If they all declare that really helps us. If they are already projected to be top 5 picks why wait another year when you could not be top5?

Dec 4, 2017 at 7:43 PM

#195

genus49
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
If they all declare that really helps us. If they are already projected to be top 5 picks why wait another year when you could not be top5?

It would be stupid. Not to mention the way the Browns are going they'll be picking #1 again next season too :)