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Dallas Goedert-TE-South Dakota State

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Probably would piss people off but one option is to go full Belichick and Baalke and just trade down again and again and again. Add an extra 2nd rounder or two in the process. Make your first pick be Goedert, then select Braden Smith at guard, add Billy Price at center, and continue filling the other remaining needs with the picks you have left. Right off the bat that would be three starter quality prospects.

This is looking more appealing now we are likely to miss out on the elite guys. Our pick would be a bit devalued but could still be attractive to someone trying to manoeuvre for one of the QB's.

Adding Goedart and Braden Smith would be very nice, the D still needs help though.

Really interested to watch him at the Senior Bowl, I'm still hoping every coach below us gets fired!!

If we lose the coin flip and miss Smith, we may as well. Can get Ridley later and I can't see us drafting Landry that early.



Would be perfectly content to trade back twice, add more picks, select Goedert and throw him out there with Kittle in some 2 TE sets next season.

Not happening
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
We are not getting this dude.. Get over it

Yes we are
I like PHX's trade back scenario
Strengths
Runs with good bend up the field and into routes. Moveable chess piece. Capable three-level worker as pass catcher. Team looked to find creative ways to get football in his hands. Carries good strength in frame and plays through physical challenges in his routes. Gains adequate separation with short and intermediate routes. Maintains top play speed when working vertically. Able to work over top of linebackers. Former high school hooper with advanced ball skills and body control. Pass snatcher with huge paws and strong hands. His highlight reels are filled with acrobatic, one-hand catches. Uses frame to gain advantageous positioning and can make in-air adjustments. Has size and technique to work with as in-line blocker. Strikes with good pad level, knee bend and hand placement. Looked stronger at point of attack this season. Possesses balance to hang in against rugged ends if he plays tough.

Weaknesses
Moves with somewhat restricted stride length. Is not a route salesman. Gives route intention away with early directional leans into breaks. Rarely relies on leverage and head fakes to create his separation. Looked bigger on tape in 2017 and quickness appeared to suffer somewhat. Would benefit from varying route speeds. Too eager to try for one-handed spear attempts rather than two handed snares at times. Agility with ball in his hands is average by NFL standards. Effort level as blocker can be inconsistent. Needs to get better hip roll into initial contact. May need a fire lit under him in order to handle in-line blocking duties as a pro.


NFL Comparison
Zach Ertz





http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/dallas-goedert?id=2559850
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Probably would piss people off but one option is to go full Belichick and Baalke and just trade down again and again and again. Add an extra 2nd rounder or two in the process. Make your first pick be Goedert, then select Braden Smith at guard, add Billy Price at center, and continue filling the other remaining needs with the picks you have left. Right off the bat that would be three starter quality prospects.

This is looking more appealing now we are likely to miss out on the elite guys. Our pick would be a bit devalued but could still be attractive to someone trying to manoeuvre for one of the QB's.

Adding Goedart and Braden Smith would be very nice, the D still needs help though.

Really interested to watch him at the Senior Bowl, I'm still hoping every coach below us gets fired!!

If we lose the coin flip and miss Smith, we may as well. Can get Ridley later and I can't see us drafting Landry that early.


Would be perfectly content to trade back twice, add more picks, select Goedert and throw him out there with Kittle in some 2 TE sets next season.

Not happening

If we lose that coin flip, we may as well. The blue chippers are likely gone and there may be one draftable QB still on the board.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
If we lose that coin flip, we may as well. The blue chippers are likely gone and there may be one draftable QB still on the board.

Blue chippers won't be gone. Just do the math. 3 picks at least are gonna be QBs. If we're picking at 10 then That would make us number 7 or even 6 if 4 QBs are taken.

2 solid LBs are there, Saquon, Nelson, 2 Solid DBs, a handful of pass rushers. Some team likely drafts a WR in front of us, they usually go high. Then some guys are gonna climb up cuz of the combine. We'll get someone nice at 9 or 10. Would be silly to draft a TE that high when we don't have a TE problem.
I still want to trade back, but I wouldn't want Davenport at 13-17 anymore. I was concerned about his ability to win against better competition, and he underwhelmed. I now want to trade back to ~20, select Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, then get Rashaan Evans (from trade) and Goedert in the second, James Daniels and Jaire Alexander in the third, and Alex Cappa and Jeff Holland or Marquis Haynes (from trade) in the 4th.

Tough to figure if Goedert (weak competition), Holland (short, slow), and Haynes (skinny and weak with no position on base downs) will be there when I hope they will be, but it'd be sweet if it worked out like that.
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I still want to trade back, but I wouldn't want Davenport at 13-17 anymore. I was concerned about his ability to win against better competition, and he underwhelmed. I now want to trade back to ~20, select Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, then get Rashaan Evans (from trade) and Goedert in the second, James Daniels and Jaire Alexander in the third, and Alex Cappa and Jeff Holland or Marquis Haynes (from trade) in the 4th.

Tough to figure if Goedert (weak competition), Holland (short, slow), and Haynes (skinny and weak with no position on base downs) will be there when I hope they will be, but it'd be sweet if it worked out like that.

They would certainly address a lot of needs
i really like this guy. Seems like a really dangerous red zone threat. I am a huge fan of Kittle and Celek though so i believe Goedert would be a luxury pick. I think we would only take him in a scenario if in where we trade down a couple of times and receive multiple extra 2-3 round picks.
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I don't like this guy's first name and but I do like that his last name starts with a G.
Garapollo-Garcon-Goodwin-Goedert
G-G-G-G Unit!
Originally posted by thl408:
I don't like this guy's first name and but I do like that his last name starts with a G.
Garapollo-Garcon-Goodwin-Goedert
G-G-G-G Unit!

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as much as Roquan Smith is bae, trading back wouldn't be the worst idea. I would love to acCUMulate more picks.
Originally posted by thl408:
I don't like this guy's first name and but I do like that his last name starts with a G.
Garapollo-Garcon-Goodwin-Goedert
G-G-G-G Unit!

If he can be like the last TE named Dallas, the 49ers would have a pretty good player on their hands.
Goedert & Kittle would be a nice combo
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Goedert & Kittle would be a nice combo

I agree, but only if we dropped into the bottom of the first round by trading way back or trading up using our 2nd rounder and other assets to get back into the late first/early second.
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