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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:18 PM

#3391

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Am I the only one who would be cool with Thomas? A month ago everyone here liked him now suddenly everyone says "I'd take Watson over Thomas" give me a break lol

He's my 4th best scenario... behind Garrett, Trubisky, and a trade down netting a 1st round pick next year.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:18 PM

#3392

tankle104
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Watson is scary both because you want him and because you don't... the last thing you want is he becomes another Russell Wilson and you passed on him...

I want to draft Watson at 2 more than any other player in this draft, even if Garret is available.

I don't think garret is going to become this all time sack monster that everyone believes either. I would just trade back a spot or two if Garrett falls to us and then pick up my guy.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:18 PM

#3393

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by FL9er:
I really hope the Eagles don't end up with Christian McCaffrey. If there is one team I hate just as much as our NFC West rivals and Dallas, it's the Eagles.

I don't hate the Eagles at all, really. Might just be because my uncle is a fan and he's a good guy.

huh ironically eagles fans are known for being obnoxious. But other than that, I have to ill feeling towards the eagles, other than indirectly giving us chip kelly.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:20 PM

#3394

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Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:21 PM

#3395

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Am I the only one who would be cool with Thomas? A month ago everyone here liked him now suddenly everyone says "I'd take Watson over Thomas" give me a break lol

I am ok with him. I think its DL fatigue from the fans. We want something new lol

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:22 PM

#3396

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

As long as we net a 2nd this year and a 1st next year, I'm all for it!

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:23 PM

#3397

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

Won't officially happen until we see who cleveland picks. it has to be for Trubisky though. So it could be the jets, bears, or browns.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:23 PM

#3398

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

To me this is the best case scenerio. I want more picks in the top 100 and a high pick in next year's draft if possible. We got problems that won't be fixed overnight by hitting on one guy at #2

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:23 PM

#3399

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

We better not get ripped off. If we trade back and still get Adams/Hooker/Thomas/McCaffery/Allen then we win today.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:23 PM

#3400

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

Won't officially happen until we see who cleveland picks. it has to be for Trubisky though. So it could be the jets, bears, or browns.

Can you imagine a bidding war for Trubisky? Oh boy

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:24 PM

#3401

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Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

Won't officially happen until we see who cleveland picks. it has to be for Trubisky though. So it could be the jets, bears, or browns.

Could be for Fournette too.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:24 PM

#3402

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

Music to my ears if we have no shot at Garrett.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:25 PM

#3403

GoldenJoe
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Yeah I wanna trade down if Garrett isn't there. I just don't get why there is so much smoke, unless there was some truth to the rumors about the Browns potentially going Trubisky. There is no need to smokescreen the first pick, it doesn't get you anything.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:25 PM

#3404

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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

Music to my ears if we have no shot at Garrett.

sure hope so!

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:25 PM

#3405

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Sounds like we may be trading back. Just saw on NFL Network that up to 3 teams have contacted us about a trade out. Not bad.

We better not get ripped off. If we trade back and still get Adams/Hooker/Thomas/McCaffery/Allen then we win today.

Completely agree with this. I dont like the Bears trying to swap 2's not to give theirs up instead shanking us with a 3rd.