9MOON'S 2017 MOST OVERRATED & UNDERRATED DRAFT PROSPECTS

Originally posted by 9moon:

OHIO STATE DB's - just like USC's OL, they are always rated a grade higher than they should be... While Peppers are making all the plays week in and week out, what do we see from OHIO STATEs DBs???

There are 6 offensive lineman from USC in the NFL
1.) Ryan Kalil- 2nd round pick
Pro bowl in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, and 2015.
^
Should have gone sooner IMO

2.) Khaled Holmes- 4th round pick
http://www.milehighreport.com/2014/5/13/5713996/how-long-does-the-average-draft-pick-stick-around



The guy is going on his 4th season as an NFL backup- already beaten out 65.7% of the guys in his round. (the above chart shows the percent of players that make it in the NFL by round as the years pass)

So again, I would say he probably could have gone a little bit higher

3.) Matt Kalil- 1st round pick
Made the pro bowl in 2012
^
The jury may still be out on him, I would say he was graded a bit higher than he should have been but is not by any means a bust. I also wouldn't say he was drafted a full grade higher than he should have been.

4.) Marcus Martin- 3rd round pick
I feel like you're pretending to know all about USC lineman because we drafted this guy. We drafted him when he was 20 years old, and when we drafted him he was by far the biggest project on the team (behind AA he still might be). He has remained on this team, and has shown improvement year after year. Judging how this season goes I would say he got drafted right where he should have been.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/2/16/14635732/marcus-martin-aaron-lynch-proven-performance-escalator-49ers-salary-cap

5.) Max Tuerk- 3rd round pick
Hasn't played yet

6.) Tyron Smith
Arguably would be the top overall pick in each draft if teams could see how dominant he was going to be.

So again, I don't get your point

I think Kizer, Watson, Trubisky are all overrated as #1 picks...yet some teams will still draft 'em that early. I don't see Shanahan/Lynch making that mistake.

Originally posted by 9moon:
COOK - he reminds me so much of Trent Richardson

McCaffrey - he is where he should be... a low 1st and a high to mid 2nd rounder.. he's not a WR, or a RB, he is what I call "offensive player"... meaning, he can play every skill position on offense..

OHIO STATE DB's - just like USC's OL, they are always rated a grade higher than they should be... While Peppers are making all the plays week in and week out, what do we see from OHIO STATEs DBs???

Cory Davis - the more you watch him play, the more you know he's a better player than Myles... I see him as a combination of both JULIO-GREEN.... and as for picking who in this year's draft.. this is the question you should ask yourself...

Would you pick LAWRENCE (Myles Garrett) TAYLOR over JERRY (Cory Davis) RICE??

Really doubt that Cook comparison. If you really wanna compare him, you have to look at Melvin Gordon.

McCaffrey skill set is more similar to that of Kevin Faulk.

Cory Davis is more comparable to (I'm ready to get blasted for this) Michael Floyd.

Remember I'm a pro, i know what I'm talking about.

Stopped reading after Dalvin

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by 9moon:
COOK - he reminds me so much of Trent Richardson

McCaffrey - he is where he should be... a low 1st and a high to mid 2nd rounder.. he's not a WR, or a RB, he is what I call "offensive player"... meaning, he can play every skill position on offense..

OHIO STATE DB's - just like USC's OL, they are always rated a grade higher than they should be... While Peppers are making all the plays week in and week out, what do we see from OHIO STATEs DBs???

Cory Davis - the more you watch him play, the more you know he's a better player than Myles... I see him as a combination of both JULIO-GREEN.... and as for picking who in this year's draft.. this is the question you should ask yourself...

Would you pick LAWRENCE (Myles Garrett) TAYLOR over JERRY (Cory Davis) RICE??

Ok I'm done with this thread now lol. Other than them both being RBs I don't really see any similarities.

Same here.

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Whoever gets Cook is gonna get an absolute steal. I watched probably 95% of his games at FSU and he actually played better in games vs rivals and top opponents. The dude is a freak and usually looks like the fastest guy on the field. Honestly, fumble rate is really the only knock. I'd take him in a heartbeat even at number 2 because he's a difference maker.

Zach Cunningham UNDERRATED. There a consensus of him being out of the 1st round pick. He literally put the whole Vanderbilt team over his shoulders. He's fast, strong, intelligent and leader of the locker. If Niners trade down, he should be on their radar.

Any of the top 3 QBs OVERRATED. While I think Kizer could be the exception, must of them are mock on the top 10-15 range while they have serious doubts about their own skills and qualities for being a franchise quarterback.

I agree with Kizer. I'm sure he may tear it up in his workouts and at the combine but it's all on tape. He's not that good, and yes he definitely needed to stay. Bad move.

Originally posted by Quest4six:

Originally posted by 9moon:

OHIO STATE DB's - just like USC's OL, they are always rated a grade higher than they should be... While Peppers are making all the plays week in and week out, what do we see from OHIO STATEs DBs???

There are 6 offensive lineman from USC in the NFL
1.) Ryan Kalil- 2nd round pick
Pro bowl in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, and 2015.
^
Should have gone sooner IMO

2.) Khaled Holmes- 4th round pick
http://www.milehighreport.com/2014/5/13/5713996/how-long-does-the-average-draft-pick-stick-around



The guy is going on his 4th season as an NFL backup- already beaten out 65.7% of the guys in his round. (the above chart shows the percent of players that make it in the NFL by round as the years pass)

So again, I would say he probably could have gone a little bit higher

3.) Matt Kalil- 1st round pick
Made the pro bowl in 2012
^
The jury may still be out on him, I would say he was graded a bit higher than he should have been but is not by any means a bust. I also wouldn't say he was drafted a full grade higher than he should have been.

4.) Marcus Martin- 3rd round pick
I feel like you're pretending to know all about USC lineman because we drafted this guy. We drafted him when he was 20 years old, and when we drafted him he was by far the biggest project on the team (behind AA he still might be). He has remained on this team, and has shown improvement year after year. Judging how this season goes I would say he got drafted right where he should have been.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2017/2/16/14635732/marcus-martin-aaron-lynch-proven-performance-escalator-49ers-salary-cap

5.) Max Tuerk- 3rd round pick
Hasn't played yet

6.) Tyron Smith
Arguably would be the top overall pick in each draft if teams could see how dominant he was going to be.

So again, I don't get your point

WHO CARES ABOUT BEING A PRO BOWLER..

Pro Bowler now a day does not get the same respect or honor the way they used to get them back in the 80s..Why do u think most of the PRO BOWL players YOU watch are players who just got chosen as a sub...

AS FOR THE USC LINEMEN, you send anyone you know at USC to play OL, and he'll be get recognize more than any OL in the PAC 12!! That's because they still live off of that reputation..

just like Penn State, known as THE LB University... it'll forever be branded to those players and their position..

Originally posted by Niners816:

Whoever gets Cook is gonna get an absolute steal. I watched probably 95% of his games at FSU and he actually played better in games vs rivals and top opponents. The dude is a freak and usually looks like the fastest guy on the field. Honestly, fumble rate is really the only knock. I'd take him in a heartbeat even at number 2 because he's a difference maker.

This guy gets it

Originally posted by 9moon:
WHO CARES ABOUT BEING A PRO BOWLER..

Pro Bowler now a day does not get the same respect or honor the way they used to get them back in the 80s..Why do u think most of the PRO BOWL players YOU watch are players who just got chosen as a sub...

AS FOR THE USC LINEMEN, you send anyone you know at USC to play OL, and he'll be get recognize more than any OL in the PAC 12!! That's because they still live off of that reputation..

just like Penn State, known as THE LB University... it'll forever be branded to those players and their position..

Most of the players in the pro-bowl are not subs
And when they are subs it is because that player is in the SB or they are hurt... So i'm not sure where you were going with that

Also, the reason USC is known for having good offensive lineman is the same reason Penn State is known for having linebackers. THEY USUALLY HAVE BETTER PLAYERS AT THOSE POSITIONS.
Those schools are known for making NFL talent at that position because they typically have more talent at that position come draft day. It starts from day 1 when they "out-recruit" the rest of the NCAA at those positions. Do some research before you make these claims