Where we stand after Day 1 | Page 2

sspiker · 2016-04-28T21:28:58-07:00

This outlook depends entirely on your stance on Kap as QB. Even then, you have two options: A) Kap is our franchise QB and will rebound in Kelly's system B) Kap or Gabbert is a placeholder QB while we set ourselves up to draft the QBotF in 2017 around a strong supporting cast. What we did in Day 1: 1) Strengthen our D-line There's no coincidence our defense was best when we were anchored by Justin Smith and Ray McDonald. We now have two 1st-round picks in a row in Armstead and Buckner, with Williams plugging the middle. Whether you think this is an average or good defense depends on whether you believe Harold will develop and/or a slimmed-down Carradine will become a competent match with Lynch. Either way, our front-seven is still undeniably young and talented, and anchored by our veteran leader Bowman. Considering our backups include Ahmad Brooks, TJE, Glenn Dorsey, and Purcell, we should have a competent defense (even with a lot of rotation). 2) Settle our O-line Anthony Davis is working out his fingers with his tweeting, but is showing no signs of re-instating himself and no desire to return to the team that rewarded him with a 2nd contract. F**k him. Trent Brown showed great promise last year and has a full offseason this year to help his cause. Joe Staley believes in him, and he really can't be any worse than Pears. With the signing of Zane Beadles and trading up for Josh Garnett, we've ensured that Pears, Devey, and Thomas will play off the bench, where they belong. Our O-line is now: LT: Staley LG: Beadles C: Kilgore RG: Garnett RT: Brown And that's without whatever Day 2/3 picks we supplement that with (expect at least to draft a backup OT). Is it the best OL in football? No. But it isn't the dumpster fire that last year was either. If Brown and whatever late round OT we draft doesn't pan out, then yes, we will be in trouble. But coming off a 5-11 season anyways that wouldn't be a huge shock. 3) Set ourselves up for high-value picks at positions of less need Those positions include WR, backup OL, and backup QB. One could argue that these picks have settled our O-line and our front seven, and that a consistent pass rush from Armstead/Buckner and whatever combo of Lynch/Harold/Brooks will improve the DB play of Brock, Johnson, Ward, and Acker (plus whatever mid-round pick we're sure to add to our DB corps). That leaves WR, where we have Torrey Smith and a bunch of question marks (including a healthy Smelter) and TE as the top positions of need. This is where offensive scheme comes into play. Either you believe Chip Kelly is an offensive genius (and has the O-line and QB to execute it) or you don't. Point being: with another 8 picks in the draft (count on another WR, RB, DL, and OL, and a development QB), you might be excused to think that, at your most optimistic, the 49ers won't completely suck this year. Then again, maybe we will, and have a high draft pick to plug-and-play a top QB with a strong, young supporting cast. Either way, this draft accomplished exactly what it needed to do in setting the stage for future promise.

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:32 AM

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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
One more thing...just saw Kawakami's headline...Denver boxed the Niners in by trading up to get Lynch and it's the same old stuff from Baalke. Wow, that dude just doesn't get it, does he. He seems to be the type that'd complain if someone gave him a million bucks because it was in big bills. What a waste. Thank God for Maiocco and Barrows.

He's not a objective writer like the matts...he twists the narratives around to fit his prerogative. He's a waste of time if you want real sports journalism IMO. Let Kap and Blaine play who knows one of the two could be real good in this offense, chips been know to take lemons and make lemonade with Qbs

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:37 AM

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I couldn't be happier with our day 1 now in the books

grabbed my first two picks in my mock and I'm totally fine moving up to get that extra yr on his deal. We got two day 1 starters and can look for mid round picks to add depth at OT.

I'm praying the Cowboys grab a QB like cook in the 2nd push dak into our laps in the 4th. I'm down for a pass rusher in the 3rd like Jordan Jenkins or a play maker like carroo. Trade some more picks for players you want Baalke! We aren't keeping 12 players on this team anyway.

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:37 AM

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Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:40 AM

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Gabbert in Kelly's system will be the best or 2nd best qb compared to this qb class. Goff may be better but who knows. Without a wr and a decent ol goff may struggle like gabbert did even though he may be a better qb.

The niners need a starting ilb bc that is probably the only position that is up for grabs along with a number 2 wr (although the CFL stud may be better than the rest of the draftees)

We need a backup rb and a pr or kr.

Then this will be a successful draft.

I love Dallas and Baltimore for taking those picks. Helped us out so much

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:46 AM

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Originally posted by NJNiner:
Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?

Hell no! There are so many good players at other positions. We aren't going to get the QB of the future in this draft IMO. Grab a dak or Adams later both could translate into chips offense very very well and at worst would be a solid backup for 4 yrs.

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:47 AM

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Originally posted by elguapo:
Gabbert in Kelly's system will be the best or 2nd best qb compared to this qb class. Goff may be better but who knows. Without a wr and a decent ol goff may struggle like gabbert did even though he may be a better qb.

The niners need a starting ilb bc that is probably the only position that is up for grabs along with a number 2 wr (although the CFL stud may be better than the rest of the draftees)

We need a backup rb and a pr or kr.

Then this will be a successful draft.

I love Dallas and Baltimore for taking those picks. Helped us out so much

Same with the Chargers taking bosa...didn't see that coming lol

Apr 29, 2016 at 4:54 AM

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Originally posted by NJNiner:
Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?

Yup

Apr 29, 2016 at 6:50 AM

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NJNiner:
Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?
Yup

Nope. For who, for what? Cook? Hell no. No on ehere worth a 2. Dak comes into value somewhere in the 3rd, and would e a great pick if he lasts into the 4th. Hack is appropriately named.

Driskel and Adams could be lucky hits in the 5/6/7 range.

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:04 AM

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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NJNiner:
Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?
Yup

stop it lol there are no QBs in the draft worthy of moving back up for period.

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:06 AM

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Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by NJNiner:
Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?
Yup

Nope. For who, for what? Cook? Hell no. No on ehere worth a 2. Dak comes into value somewhere in the 3rd, and would e a great pick if he lasts into the 4th. Hack is appropriately named.

Driskel and Adams could be lucky hits in the 5/6/7 range.

This^ dak in the 4th would be ideal or grabbing someone like Driskel and Adams could at the very least be a solid backup...we aren't solving every issue this draft.

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:10 AM

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I like the picks, but I am not sure we needed to trade up to get Garnett. I hope we trade back up to the second and get Spence or Ragland. I would rather have 3 or 4 premium players than a bunch of 5,6 or 7 round projects.

Repeat after me, we are rebuilding and it will not be done in one draft....

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:16 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I couldn't be happier with our day 1 now in the books grabbed my first two picks in my mock and I'm totally fine moving up to get that extra yr on his deal. We got two day 1 starters and can look for mid round picks to add depth at OT.

I'm praying the Cowboys grab a QB like cook in the 2nd push dak into our laps in the 4th. I'm down for a pass rusher in the 3rd like Jordan Jenkins or a play maker like carroo. Trade some more picks for players you want Baalke! We aren't keeping 12 players on this team anyway.

I agree Cowboys take Cook,don`t want him as a Qb nor as a Player on the 9ers, Like Prescott and the Kid out of Western Kentucky,He is the most accurate passer in this year `s Draft..reminds me of Montana with his decision-making and pin-point throws.I too wanted Buckner all along and the Guard-Garrnet....whew yeah great start for us in this draft....need to address ILB and OLB this will be onne of Baalke`s best drafts

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:24 AM

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Originally posted by WildBill:
If there is a worthy ILB then take one in the 3rd, Baalke has picked good players at ILB in the third and we need to develop one. If not let move Brooks to the middle and select Nassib and let Eli, Tank battle it out.

Then get Tyler Earvin for RB in the 4th and get an OT and QB in the 5th Hogan/Dak. Then whoever is BPA in the 6th.

I agre with u 100% love love Ervin hogan would be cool but I wish we get cook somehow

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:24 AM

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Originally posted by jrouter4949:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I couldn't be happier with our day 1 now in the books grabbed my first two picks in my mock and I'm totally fine moving up to get that extra yr on his deal. We got two day 1 starters and can look for mid round picks to add depth at OT.

I'm praying the Cowboys grab a QB like cook in the 2nd push dak into our laps in the 4th. I'm down for a pass rusher in the 3rd like Jordan Jenkins or a play maker like carroo. Trade some more picks for players you want Baalke! We aren't keeping 12 players on this team anyway.

I agree Cowboys take Cook,don`t want him as a Qb nor as a Player on the 9ers, Like Prescott and the Kid out of Western Kentucky,He is the most accurate passer in this year `s Draft..reminds me of Montana with his decision-making and pin-point throws.I too wanted Buckner all along and the Guard-Garrnet....whew yeah great start for us in this draft....need to address ILB and OLB this will be onne of Baalke`s best drafts

yup I like Jordan Jenkins in the 4th, don't be surprised if we go Deion Jones in the 3rd baalke needs his SEC fix lol...there are a ton of very good LBs and we have bunch of ammo. yeah Doughty is someone to check out much later. Dak is my QB crush also wouldn't hate Adams late.

Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 AM

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Originally posted by NJNiner:
Should we trade back up to the 2nd and take a QB?

Who would you pick?
I wouldn't mind a pass rusher now that the beef is on the D line