Mock draft version 1

I will laugh at the team who takes a WR high in round 1 of this draft. Those and the TE's are so sub par this year

Originally posted by JeuSF49:

IMHO our biggest need is pass rusher. Our pass rush was almost nonexistent last year. While Goff is intriguing it seems to me that there is not an elite pass rusher on the second day.

While I agree pass rush is our biggest need (followed closely by WR) the problem is, there isn't an elite pass rusher available in the 1st round either.

Originally posted by genus49:

I find it a bit ironic that you don't see Goff as a franchise QB given the reasons you kept bashing Kaepernick. Goff is like the opposite of Kap.

Kap was big, muscular, fast as heck, cannon for an arm but as far as the knocks he had on him from most people - seemed to lack the mental part of the game, had poor accuracy, poor pocket poise, got the ball out slowly(with the ball going too fast at times), poor touch and from reports caused a rift in the locker room and had some "diva" in him.

Goff is slim, not super fast, decent arm but no cannon and is definitely a pocket passer. He's shown to have great pocket presence(playing behind a piss poor Cal OL) he has great accuracy, great touch, has the mental part of the game down, student of the game and came into a program that was dog chit and turned it around despite having less than a stellar cast around him.

I know a lot of people think Goff isn't a top tier prospect but IMO he has everything you need in a QB. Sure if he had 10.5 inch hands and weighed 240 lbs at 6'4 and could throw the ball 70 yards down the field with a flick of his wrist he'd be a much better prospect but IMO the weaknesses in his games and the reasons I've seen tear him down are silly.

I saw the recent article where a scout mentions how he hasn't won....dude started on a 1-11 team as a true frosh and won more games each season.
Of course they mentioned his small hands...well what do you know they grew a 1/8 of an inch in a month. Goff didn't turn the ball over more than guys with huge mitts.

Is he a sure thing? No but nobody is. Still I think if he's on this team he would work his ass off to give this team another great QB. I know the fact that he's a 49ers fan who grew up worshiping Montana seems just like a cool little tidbit but IMO that also means he'd try that much harder to not disappoint.

Can you imagine being a fan of a team...getting a chance of playing for them and being known as an epic failure? That just gives someone more drive to succeed imo.

Draft Goff. Let him sit behind Gabbert this year and really soak up the playbook/coaching and hopefully watch the offensive line fix itself. Use next offseason to add more talent via free agency & draft and let the kid do his thing.

I agree with everything you said BUT can you honestly sit here and say Goff will be better than what we have in Gabbert?

BTW- I don't think there is anyone who works harder on the team than Gabbert.

We drafted a QB once in 2005. We had absolutely no weapons at WR or TE for him to throw to and he was well on the way to being an epic bust. It wasn't until we drafted Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree that he, and the team, started to have success.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

You would like to Look good and not produce ? I would take OL if it was a choice between those two

We aren't moving AD inside to guard and Ronnie Stanley wont be a guard either. It just isn't happening.

Originally posted by SteveYoung:
I agree with everything you said BUT can you honestly sit here and say Goff will be better than what we have in Gabbert?

BTW- I don't think there is anyone who works harder on the team than Gabbert.

We drafted a QB once in 2005. We had absolutely no weapons at WR or TE for him to throw to and he was well on the way to being an epic bust. It wasn't until we drafted Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree that he, and the team, started to have success.

I don't think that's a stretch to say yes at all.

Gabbert played better than I expected last year but similar to Kap I'm not sure if he can ever be fixed to what he could've been before Jacksonville did a number on him. He played too safe and it's the same reason I wasn't disappointed to see Alex Smith go.

When you're playing safe you need the rest of your team to be on top of their game. Any small mistake could swing the game and get you a loss. Remember the Giants NFC Championship? Maybe if Alex doesn't shy away from a couple of plays we never see Kyle Williams out there on that last fumble.

Did you see the article how weak Gabbert was on 3rd down? You need to get the ball beyond the 1st down marker. A 3 yard throw on 3rd and 8 gives you a small chance to convert.

Goff comes in fresh without having the beating of the NFL. He has shown the ability to stay in the pocket, take the hit and get the ball out despite his smallish frame. With time to get his weight up and a better team around him he's definitely a better option than Gabbert. Have you ever seen a QB suddenly turn into a playmaker when he's been playing it safe for years?

I like the odds much more of a fresh face coming in and being put into a position to succeed and get his confidence nice and high real quick. Goff does the things that Gabbert does well just as good and does the things Gabbert does poorly much better.

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:

With Ian Williams a big question mark now, I think DL is the biggest need. My first pick would be Buckner...it's an opportunity to create an excellent young front 3. Dial can slide inside to NT and have Purcell back him up. Both Armstead and Buckner are Kelly guys...and you know he'd love to have both guys on his team. Agree Kelly needs a receiver, but let's also not discount what Smelter and Eric Rogers offer. Kelly also likes Ellington's skillset, so I'd look for him to have a bigger role in his offense. I think 2nd rd is really early for Jenkins...with Shilique Calhoun, Spence, Ngkoue arguably available, I'd think Baalke would grab one of them. There should be a number of very good WR's available in the 3rd rd. I really like most of your picks.

Dial is not a NT. He is a great 2 down, 3 tech, set the edge DE though.

I like Buckner but I doubt he is available at #7.

No thanks to Spence or Nkemdiche. We don't need any more trouble makers. I do like Calhoun but he is probably a better fit for the weak side in a 3-4 where Aaron Lynch plays. Im looking for a Brooks replacement on the strong side. Jenkins is tough as nails, excellent at setting the edge and a team leader. We need more guys like him.

I would be shocked if Smelter offers anything to us. Yet another Baalke failed ACL draft pick. And listen, Im the biggest Eric Rogers fan around. I live in Canada. I have been watching the CFL for 25 year and while Rogers is good, CFL receivers rarely make it in the NFL. Only 1 I can think of, Mark Boerigter, had success coming from the CFL. He played 4 seasons with KC and is best season was 420 yards. As for current CFL receivers to make the NFL, Rogers is probably slightly better than Dontrelle Inman who cannot make the field even with SD having no receivers last year. So I wouldn't be counting on Rogers either. And Ellington, meh. He will make the odd play in slot on screens or quick outs but that is about it.

So af WR on the outside we are currently looking at Torrey Smith and Quinton Patton with Bruce Ellington in the slot. That my friends, is the WORST receiving group in the NFL and worse that what Alex Smith had to throw to in 2005. And we all know how his career started. So no thanks to Jared Goff and yes please to adding some playmakers.

Originally posted by genus49:

I don't think that's a stretch to say yes at all.

Gabbert played better than I expected last year but similar to Kap I'm not sure if he can ever be fixed to what he could've been before Jacksonville did a number on him. He played too safe and it's the same reason I wasn't disappointed to see Alex Smith go.

When you're playing safe you need the rest of your team to be on top of their game. Any small mistake could swing the game and get you a loss. Remember the Giants NFC Championship? Maybe if Alex doesn't shy away from a couple of plays we never see Kyle Williams out there on that last fumble.

Did you see the article how weak Gabbert was on 3rd down? You need to get the ball beyond the 1st down marker. A 3 yard throw on 3rd and 8 gives you a small chance to convert.

Goff comes in fresh without having the beating of the NFL. He has shown the ability to stay in the pocket, take the hit and get the ball out despite his smallish frame. With time to get his weight up and a better team around him he's definitely a better option than Gabbert. Have you ever seen a QB suddenly turn into a playmaker when he's been playing it safe for years?

I like the odds much more of a fresh face coming in and being put into a position to succeed and get his confidence nice and high real quick. Goff does the things that Gabbert does well just as good and does the things Gabbert does poorly much better.

Listen, I like Goff but this team is in no position to throw a rookie QB this year ir even next. Read my post above. This team is in worse shape than it was in 2005. I don't know what Baalke is doing but man has this team gone to hell in his 6 years here.

If we draft Goff I am certain he will be ruined like we ruined Alex Smith and how Jak ruined Blaine Gabbert.

Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Trade Colin Kaepernick to Denver for 3.94

1.7) Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss 6'2, 221

WR is arguably our biggest need. We have no-one aside from Torrey Smith and Treadwell will compliment him. Treadwell will take over for Boldin and be a target monster for Chip Kelly. Immediate starter from day 1. Im not buying the Goff hype. Gabbert would have had 4062 yards, 20 TD's, 14 INT's, 86.2 rating, 63.1 comp. % as well as 370 yards rushing and 2 TD's. Give him a better Oline and he will be great.

2.37) Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia 6'3, 259, 33 1/4" arms

Tough as nails. Team captain. Able to set the edge. Brings it very snap. Will compete with Brooks for snaps. Might even replace him as a starter.

3.68) Le'Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech 6'5, 316, 36 1/8 arms

Has the skills to be a top 10 OT in the league. 1st round talent. Immediate starter at RT.

3.94) Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State 6'2, 226

Prescott has NFL size, mobility and enough arm. Needs work on mechanics. Drops due to the DUI he had two days after his pro day.

4.105) Kentrell Brothers, ILB, Missouri 6'1, 235

One of the most instinctive players in the draft. Not the fastest or athletic LB in the draft but you can't ignore his instincts and production. Another great 3rd round LB picked by Baalke. Will challenge to start right away and at the very least he will get his fair share of snaps

4.133) Willie Henry, DT, Michigan 6'3, 303, 33 3/8" arms

34 tackles, 10 for loss, 6.5 sacks as a senior. Has the abilities to be a starter down the road.

5.142) DJ White, CB, Georgia Tech 5'11, 193

Team captain and 3 year starter. Not the best ball skills but his fantastic instincts, athleticism and press cover skills.

5.145) Evan Bohm, OC, Missouri 6'2, 302, 31 5'8" arms

Tough as nails. Commands a locker room and is a natural leader. Outstanding power at the point of attack. I think he can come in and challenge Kilgore right away to be a starter.

5.174) Tyler Ervin, RB, San Jose State 5'10, 177

He is a better receiver and kick returner than a RB. Not a great pass blocker but he offers skills as a home run hitter and 3rd down back. Electric returner.

6.178) Vernon Adams, QB, Oregon 6'0, 200

Very limited experience but works hard. Had a very good year.

6.207) Kenny Lawler, WR, Cal 6'2, 203

13 TD's last year. Could be very good as a slot receiver

6.211) Thomas Duarte, TE, UCLA 6'2, 231

Fantastic move TE potential. 53 rec, 572 yards and 10 TD's last year.

6.213) DJ Pettway, OLB, Alabama 6'2, 265

Powerful player. Able to set the edge. NFL toughness. Probably would have had better stats if he played more snaps.

Sorry dude not a fan at all.

Treadwell is a fine player but not a top 10 WR prospect in m eyes.

I like Jenkins but not at the top of the 2nd round? and I'm not a fan of Clark at all I don't see first round talent in him and there are much better OTs to be had IMO. (rather go OG than tackle anyway).

I like the Dak pick could be a stud down the road. I'm a fan of Brothers, but no way his lasting until the 4th round. I also like the Ervin pick. Not sure how you think Lawler is gonna drop to the 6th??

I'm going to update this mock with the news terrible news of Ian Williams being hurt and hopefully with the thought that Anthony Davis comes back. Im going to move Jenkins down a bit. I think 2.37 is a bit high.

Trade Colin Kaepernick to Denver for 3.94

1.7) Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss 6'2, 221

WR is arguably our biggest need. We have no-one aside from Torrey Smith and Treadwell will compliment him. Treadwell will take over for Boldin and be a target monster for Chip Kelly. Immediate starter from day 1. Im not buying the Goff hype. Gabbert would have had 4062 yards, 20 TD's, 14 INT's, 86.2 rating, 63.1 comp. % as well as 370 yards rushing and 2 TD's. Give him a better Oline and he will be great. 

2.37) Vernon Butler, NT, Louisianna Tech. 6'4, 323. 35 1/8 inch arms

Powerful inside rusher with extremely long arms. Can clog up running lanes and take on double teams. I think he can be very effective on the outside in an odd front as well. We are running thin on the D-line.

3.68) Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State 6'2, 226

Prescott has NFL size, mobility and enough arm. Needs work on mechanics. Drops due to the DUI he had two days after his pro day. 

3.94) Kentrell Brothers, ILB, Missouri 6'1, 235

One of the most instinctive players in the draft. Not the fastest or athletic LB in the draft but you can't ignore his instincts and production. Another great 3rd round LB picked by Baalke. Will challenge to start right away and at the very least he will get his fair share of snaps

4.105) Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia 6'3, 259, 33 1/4" arms

Tough as nails. Team captain. Able to set the edge. Brings it very snap. Will compete with Brooks for snaps. Might even replace him as a starter. 

4.133) Willie Henry, DT, Michigan 6'3, 303, 33 3/8" arms

34 tackles, 10 for loss, 6.5 sacks as a senior. Has the abilities to be a starter down the road. 

5.142) Evan Bohm, OC, Missouri 6'2, 302, 31 5'8" arms

Tough as nails. Commands a locker room and is a natural leader. Outstanding power at the point of attack. I think he can come in and challenge Kilgore right away to be a starter. 

5.145) DJ White, CB, Georgia Tech 5'11, 193

Team captain and 3 year starter. Not the best ball skills but his fantastic instincts, athleticism and press cover skills. 

5.174) Tyler Ervin, RB, San Jose State 5'10, 177

He is a better receiver and kick returner than a RB. Not a great pass blocker but he offers skills as a home run hitter and 3rd down back. Electric returner. 

6.178) Thomas Duarte, TE, UCLA 6'2, 231

Fantastic move TE potential. 53 rec, 572 yards and 10 TD's last year.

6.207) DJ Pettway, OLB, Alabama 6'2, 265

Powerful player. Able to set the edge. NFL toughness. Probably would have had better stats if he played more snaps.

6.211) Joseph Cheek, OT, Texas A&M 6'6, 310

Athletic player who is a fit for zone blocking. Probably not powerful enough to be a guard but has the movement and awareness to be a decent OT.

6.213) Vernon Adams, QB, Oregon 6'0, 200 

Very limited experience but works hard. Had a very good year. 

Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Listen, I like Goff but this team is in no position to throw a rookie QB this year ir even next. Read my post above. This team is in worse shape than it was in 2005. I don't know what Baalke is doing but man has this team gone to hell in his 6 years here.

If we draft Goff I am certain he will be ruined like we ruined Alex Smith and how Jak ruined Blaine Gabbert.

i don't think you recall just how bad that 2005 team was. We're no doubt a much better team now.

OL is a question mark still but could come together if Davis can get back to form.
WR even without Boldin we're way better than what we had that year. We may not have a proven #1 guy but Smith, Patton, Ellington, Smelter and possibly Rogers provide some talent..just need them to put it on the field. I expect Kelly to get the most out of these guys.

Defense is also much better. We had guys playing out of position.

Certainly in 2017 the offense can be much better. Don't forget all the cap room we're going to have next year and likely another pretty high draft pick.

I'd much rather get Goff now, have him sit and learn then grab someone like JuJu Smith-Schuster or Travin Dural next year in the draft.