Let's do the math on this trade

Maybe the FO could also offer to pay part of the salary, so Denver can sign some FA in lieu of having their day 1/2 pick(s).

I say trade Kap for Wilkerson and give them our 4th round pick. If Kap is worth a 2nd and they want a 1st for Wilk. Wilkerson is worth the monster contract.

Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
I say trade Kap for Wilkerson and give them our 4th round pick. If Kap is worth a 2nd and they want a 1st for Wilk. Wilkerson is worth the monster contract.

I don't see that happening at all.

I'd love to get Wilkeron BUT he'll command as much loot as Oliver [85M?]

I don't see Trent doing that at all.

If Cleveland truly is interested we should send Kap there. In exchange we can swap firsts and get a second or third back as well. That would insure we get Goff or Wentz, and would give us picks for the rebuild. It's clear that we are where the Raiders were two years ago and that we need to take the long view now.

Whoever suggested kap to NYJ idea is genius. However, do the jets want to do the trade? Also, with the amount of money we would be saving by trading kap, we can give that same salary plus a few mil more a year, and it still won't make a dent in our 67 million dollar cap room.....We can more than afford wilkerson EVEN IF we DID NOT trade Kap. However, if we trade kap and his salary to NYJ, Wilkerson's salary would be pennies on a dollar in terms with our cap room.

Originally posted by SFBuckeye:

The niners are apparently looking for a 2nd round pick for Kapernick but Broncos are willing to give up a third. That wouldn't necessarily be bad if the Broncos weren't picking last in each round. So the Broncos 3rd round pick is essentially a 4th round pick. That deal is a no go because we would be better off keeping Kap and letting him compete for the starting job. The Broncos are in a desperate situation the are a playoff contender without a plausible QB. Unless they want to trade for Sam Bradford or Mike Glennon their are no other options. Balke should hold out for their 1st round pick or for another teams 2nd rounder. Kapernick is going to be more important to the Broncos than whoever they end up drafting with the 31st pick. There's a rumor floating that the Broncos have floated swapping their 1st and 3rd rounder for Kap and our 2nd rounder. On the surface the deal looks good for us but essentially we are only moving up 6 spots in round 1 and getting a 3rd rounder that's equal to a 4th rounder. I think Balke should instead either take their 1st rounder and give them our 3rd or take their first rounder and give them back a conditional pick in 2017 depending on how well Kap plays. If he plays decent and they make the playoffs we don't owe them anything next year. If he stinks it up and gets benched we will give them our third which will likely be a high pick. This is a win win for both teams. We get a valuable pick but the Broncos get some value back of he stinks it up. Plus theirs always the chance that the Browns or the jets offer up their 2nd rounder. The Browns 2nd rounder is one spot below Denvers and we won't have to worry about Kap taking the Browns to the Super Bowl.

This needed a new thread?

Yea to the Jets would be nice and to take on Kaps contract they would have to dump some salary. I didn't consider in the Browns trade that we would probadly be giving ourselves a choice of the QBs at 7. I think Hue Jackson has got to be considering Kap. The Browns don't usually give a coach more than 2 seasons to start winning and that's going to be tough if they have a rookie QB with all the free agent loses they had.

We should be asking for experienced, proven players, instead of a draft pick. We have a lot of holes to fill, and another rookie on top of our own picks is a gamble. Baalke will probably waste the pick anyway. He always does, doesn't he?

Originally posted by pdizo916:
Whoever suggested kap to NYJ idea is genius. However, do the jets want to do the trade? Also, with the amount of money we would be saving by trading kap, we can give that same salary plus a few mil more a year, and it still won't make a dent in our 67 million dollar cap room.....We can more than afford wilkerson EVEN IF we DID NOT trade Kap. However, if we trade kap and his salary to NYJ, Wilkerson's salary would be pennies on a dollar in terms with our cap room.

Jets have no interest reportedly, they just want their own guy to hurry up and sign.

That said, if the 49ers can wrangle a 2nd rounder from the Browns, I'd be down for trading that to the Jets for Wilkerson. A pick that is essentially a late 1st would probably be the best offer they get. They add a pick, free up a ton of cap space and the 49ers work out a long term deal with Wilkerson before the trade is done.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Jets have no interest reportedly, they just want their own guy to hurry up and sign.

That said, if the 49ers can wrangle a 2nd rounder from the Browns, I'd be down for trading that to the Jets for Wilkerson. A pick that is essentially a late 1st would probably be the best offer they get. They add a pick, free up a ton of cap space and the 49ers work out a long term deal with Wilkerson before the trade is done.

Plus that means Cleveland won't be picking QB in the upcoming draft if they trade for Kap which will allow one of the stud QBs to come our way (hopefully Goff).

Bottom line is, we really do not have the ball on our side of the court.

Those 3 teams can actually just sit still and allow us to either waste or money by having Kaep on the roster come April or take the 3rd that's being offered.

Kaep does not wanna be here anymore, why are we still wasting time trying to get picks or players that we know those teams are not gonna give up.

Wilkerson will not be traded to SF for Kaep and even with a coouple of picks when they know we no longer wants Kaep either..

if Cleveland is offering us their 2nd for Kaep and our 4th, i say it's a fair deal... pull the trigger already!!

Originally posted by 9moon:
Bottom line is, we really do not have the ball on our side of the court.

Those 3 teams can actually just sit still and allow us to either waste or money by having Kaep on the roster come April or take the 3rd that's being offered.

Kaep does not wanna be here anymore, why are we still wasting time trying to get picks or players that we know those teams are not gonna give up.

Wilkerson will not be traded to SF for Kaep and even with a coouple of picks when they know we no longer wants Kaep either..

if Cleveland is offering us their 2nd for Kaep and our 4th, i say it's a fair deal... pull the trigger already!!

Amen!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by 9moon:
Bottom line is, we really do not have the ball on our side of the court.

Those 3 teams can actually just sit still and allow us to either waste or money by having Kaep on the roster come April or take the 3rd that's being offered.

Or the 49ers could simply stand fast and keep Kaepernick. They have plenty of cap space and no need to rush in trading him. Meanwhile Denver still has no QB and few options to get one.

Because of Osweiler, the 49ers find themselves in a very good position right now. They'd be foolish to give in at this point. They don't have to hurry, they don't have to trade Kaepernick, they've got plenty of cap space and plenty of time.


Denver is more desperate to get a QB than the 49ers are to trade Kaepernick. Even Michael Silver said he wasn't sure if the 49ers are just trying to build leverage or if they are actually serious about keeping him. They are keeping their cards close to the vest, sticking to their demands as they should. Its all about supply and demand, they've got the supply right now.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Bottom line is, we really do not have the ball on our side of the court.

Those 3 teams can actually just sit still and allow us to either waste or money by having Kaep on the roster come April or take the 3rd that's being offered.

Kaep does not wanna be here anymore, why are we still wasting time trying to get picks or players that we know those teams are not gonna give up.

Wilkerson will not be traded to SF for Kaep and even with a coouple of picks when they know we no longer wants Kaep either..

if Cleveland is offering us their 2nd for Kaep and our 4th, i say it's a fair deal... pull the trigger already!!

Where did you read they are offering us their 2nd for Kaep and our 4th? That would be a really good trade for us and much better than Denver's 2nd round pick (which has not been offered). Don't think the Browns have actually made that offer and don't know why they would when they may be the worst team in the league and are clearly rebuilding. They're better off drafting BPA at 2 (likely Ramsey) and tanking for Watson or taking Wentz at 2.