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Strickac's Mock 1.0
Feb 17, 2016 at 9:22 PM
- Hysterikal
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Great Job! Could definitely get down with this kinda draft. I'm not a big fan of Bruce Irvin (probably cuz he plays for the Hawks) I just don't know how well he will do as a 3-4 OLB. Only other player I dislike is Kessler but I get the reasoning behind Kessler and Irvin. All in all hell of a job.
Feb 17, 2016 at 10:28 PM
- m_brockalexander
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That is a great offseason. Like the Irvin signing because he will be much happier rushing the passer, even though he dropped back 30% of the time this year into pass coverage as part of the Seahawks 4-3 defense. Agree with Hysterikal about Kessler. Would much rather have Vernon Adams or Dak Prescott as our 3rd QB. Can't get over the thought of Matt Barkley and how he became nothing as another failed USC QB turned pro.
Feb 17, 2016 at 10:30 PM
- bzborow1
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This is certainly one of the more reasonable mocks out there to be honest. Most of them have 1st round guys going in the the 2nd plus two or three big free agent signings.
Feb 17, 2016 at 11:36 PM
- Shifty
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I know strictly looking at sack numbers don't tell the whole story on pass rushing but Irvin's numbers there are quite underwhelming. I'd like to see his pass rush ratings compared to the other elite pass rushers in the league.
Very reasonable mock here, love the focus on the lines both offense and defense. Definitely something we need to fully address
Very reasonable mock here, love the focus on the lines both offense and defense. Definitely something we need to fully address
Feb 18, 2016 at 12:04 AM
- NorthBay49er
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Myles jack will be limited in combine
Feb 18, 2016 at 12:44 AM
- KyleShanahan
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Good job!
Feb 18, 2016 at 2:05 AM
- 49ersGiants7
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A little low on the $$$ estimates of Allen and Wiz. Think both would potential be around $7-8 million per year, teams will be desperate for oline talent. Realistic mock in terms of player additions though.
Feb 18, 2016 at 4:56 AM
- NYniner85
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Solid realistic mock
Not sure Irvin is worth that much cash and not sure how he'd be as a OLB?
Not a fan of the QB pick at all...at that point I'd rather not draft a QB then pick him lol.
Overall good job!
Not sure Irvin is worth that much cash and not sure how he'd be as a OLB?
Not a fan of the QB pick at all...at that point I'd rather not draft a QB then pick him lol.
Overall good job!
Feb 18, 2016 at 5:25 AM
- SteveYoung
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Nice mock but your free agency numbers are way off. Ian Williams is projected to get 8 mil a year. Allen and Wisnewski will also gwt double, if not triple what you have them signed for. Basically, you gave all those guys backup money.
Feb 18, 2016 at 6:42 AM
- strickac
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Originally posted by 49ersGiants7:A little low on the $$$ estimates of Allen and Wiz. Think both would potential be around $7-8 million per year, teams will be desperate for oline talent. Realistic mock in terms of player additions though.
Originally posted by SteveYoung:Nice mock but your free agency numbers are way off. Ian Williams is projected to get 8 mil a year. Allen and Wisnewski will also gwt double, if not triple what you have them signed for. Basically, you gave all those guys backup money.
FA is hard to predict. With the cap increasing and desperate teams bidding, the price will rise. Here's my thought though...
- Ian Williams isn't the best NT in football, but he'll get paid similarly. Wilford makes $4.5 / yr. Harrison is looking for $5M. Ian should fall in around $4.5M /yr on the high side, IMO.
- Irvin will probably get $10-11M / yr because he can do it all, including pass rush. There's speculation that he goes to Atl, but I think he fits our defense perfectly. Atl isn't a great fit unless he wants to keep playing in coverage and he's indicated that he prefers getting the QB.
- Allen is good young player, but I'm not sure he's worth more than $6M year. I could see a team throwing big money at him though.
-Wisnieski signed a $3M deal last year. This contract will increase, but I still expect it in the $4M / yr area.
Feb 18, 2016 at 6:49 AM
- strickac
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Originally posted by NorthBay49er:Myles jack will be limited in combine
Yeah, I read that too. I starting working on this a couple weeks ago, so some of my comments are a little dated. I think it helps the case of him being there at #7.
Overall, the positions and focus of this mock is what I'd like to see. For instance, if Buckner is there in the 1st and Kendall Fuller is on the board in the 2nd, then jump on it.
I put Chris Jones in there a little early for my taste. I think that if he draft were today, he'd be selected in the 50-75 range. The depth at DT pushes him down and he's a better fit in the 3-4 which limits the interest that early. He'd be a nice upgrade over Dial though.
Feb 18, 2016 at 6:58 AM
- strickac
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:Great Job! Could definitely get down with this kinda draft. I'm not a big fan of Bruce Irvin (probably cuz he plays for the Hawks) I just don't know how well he will do as a 3-4 OLB. Only other player I dislike is Kessler but I get the reasoning behind Kessler and Irvin. All in all hell of a job.
I went back and forth between Dak, Vernon, Driskell, and Foughty. Somehow I settled on Kessler.
I think Dak and maybe Driskell come off the board day 2 and there's some good defensive talent available that could become starters, so I went that route
I like Foughty and Adams. Foughty threw a couple picks at the Shrine game, but if you watch throws he made under pressure, which was nearly every drop back, it's very promising. The first pick was 100% on him forcing it. The second Int I put one his WR. He put up Madden numbers this year also, but the Shrine game turned some people off. Good developmental player for Chip.
Adams is a gamer, but I think he'll have a tough time getting drafted. He's not Russell Wilson, but he can play. His ceiling is Tyrod Taylor after sitting for a few years.
If Baalke comes out of left field to surprise us, it'll be grabbing Paxton Lynch at #7. Calling my shot early on this one.
[ Edited by strickac on Feb 18, 2016 at 10:41 AM ]
Feb 18, 2016 at 7:12 AM
- stonecold590
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Best ive seen in awhile. I also don't like the QB pick but the rest is gravy.
[ Edited by stonecold590 on Feb 18, 2016 at 7:12 AM ]
Feb 18, 2016 at 7:40 AM
- elguapo
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This is the most realistic mock I've seen especially free agency and cuts. I just really hope instead of Claiborne we go after Sean Smith. That would be so worth it and a great idea