Myles Garrett - Edge Rusher | Page 109

eastcoast49ersfan · 2016-01-16T21:32:38-08:00

I just started looking at some 2017 mock drafts and saw this guy in the top 2 so I watched some of his highlights. This guy is unreal - he reminds me of Aldon Smith, but may be more athletic (arms aren't quite as long though). You can hear Jesse Palmer saying "Jadeveon Clowney and Ndamukong Suh are the only two guys I've seen that impact the game the same way Myles Garrett does" in one of the highlights. He's big (6'5 260), explosive, bends well, has long arms, and has been extremely productive in the SEC (led the conference with 20 tackles for a loss as a true sophomore. I know it's early to start looking at 2017 prospects, but he hasn't gotten as much hype as he deserves and the other elite prospects next year (Watson and Fournette) have threads already. If we're somehow picking at the top of next year's draft, Watson or Garrett should be targeted.

Dec 25, 2016 at 2:41 AM

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Jasta
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
I disagree. The Qb's in this draft are solid at best but they're not franchise players. I like that Miami QB in the second round, doe.

'xactly.

There's no homerun sure thing QB's or anything even close to them in this draft... But there could be a few high risk/high ceiling ones.

Better to get a lock in stud first and then go for a QB second or third. Chad Kelly could even be a steal in the 4th or 5th if he sorts his issues and injuries out.

Dec 25, 2016 at 8:14 AM

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Niners816
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Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Also, some are getting way ahead of themselves proclaiming Goff a bust. Guy has only played 6 games for a coaching staff that isn't The Who's-who in offensive football.

Lost to the worst defense in the league, at home. There is absolutely nothing special about Goff and I'm glad a division rival traded away a boat load for him. Dude is a loser that beat up on the weak teams in a weak conference, plain and simple

Way too premature to be making these type of statements.

Dec 25, 2016 at 9:02 AM

#1623

Sims19849ers
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Also, some are getting way ahead of themselves proclaiming Goff a bust. Guy has only played 6 games for a coaching staff that isn't The Who's-who in offensive football.

Lost to the worst defense in the league, at home. There is absolutely nothing special about Goff and I'm glad a division rival traded away a boat load for him. Dude is a loser that beat up on the weak teams in a weak conference, plain and simple

Way too premature to be making these type of statements.

Made the statement last year and nothing has changed my opinion. Wentz looks promising. Dak looks promising. Goff looks utterly garbage and nothing close to being excited about

Dec 25, 2016 at 9:05 AM

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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Also, some are getting way ahead of themselves proclaiming Goff a bust. Guy has only played 6 games for a coaching staff that isn't The Who's-who in offensive football.

Lost to the worst defense in the league, at home. There is absolutely nothing special about Goff and I'm glad a division rival traded away a boat load for him. Dude is a loser that beat up on the weak teams in a weak conference, plain and simple

Way too premature to be making these type of statements.

It's not. Goff will improve. But he will never live up to his draft status. He is a colossal bust. He has no arm, no poise, no accuracy and no leadership at the NFL level. This has been proven true every single game he has played this year. There are literally zero aspects of his play this season that even provide a glimmer of being worthy of the #1 overall pick.

Every QB who has played this season - including all other rookies - have provided more promise than Jared "just give him time" Goff.

Dec 25, 2016 at 9:35 AM

#1625

Jcool
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Originally posted by Jasta:

Originally posted by pdizo916:
I disagree. The Qb's in this draft are solid at best but they're not franchise players. I like that Miami QB in the second round, doe.

'xactly.

There's no homerun sure thing QB's or anything even close to them in this draft... But there could be a few high risk/high ceiling ones.

Better to get a lock in stud first and then go for a QB second or third. Chad Kelly could even be a steal in the 4th or 5th if he sorts his issues and injuries out.

Chad Kelly will probably be a UDFA unless a team takes a chance in the 6th or 7th round.

Dec 25, 2016 at 9:40 AM

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Kolohe
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The lord giveth and taketh away.

Dec 25, 2016 at 9:45 AM

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English
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Originally posted by okdkid:
It's not. Goff will improve. But he will never live up to his draft status. He is a colossal bust. He has no arm, no poise, no accuracy and no leadership at the NFL level. This has been proven true every single game he has played this year. There are literally zero aspects of his play this season that even provide a glimmer of being worthy of the #1 overall pick.

Every QB who has played this season - including all other rookies - have provided more promise than Jared "just give him time" Goff.

"The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017). Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), a fourth-round pick (2016) and a sixth-round pick (2016)."

Whew!

Dec 25, 2016 at 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Well that was fun for a min lol

Don't worry, when we draft either Trubisky or Watson at 2, you will feel a billion times better. LOL.

Lol well I would have been pretty stoked if we got Myles and Jimmy G

Dec 25, 2016 at 10:23 AM

#1629

Zachary13White
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Also, some are getting way ahead of themselves proclaiming Goff a bust. Guy has only played 6 games for a coaching staff that isn't The Who's-who in offensive football.

Lost to the worst defense in the league, at home. There is absolutely nothing special about Goff and I'm glad a division rival traded away a boat load for him. Dude is a loser that beat up on the weak teams in a weak conference, plain and simple

Way too premature to be making these type of statements.

It's not. Goff will improve. But he will never live up to his draft status. He is a colossal bust. He has no arm, no poise, no accuracy and no leadership at the NFL level. This has been proven true every single game he has played this year. There are literally zero aspects of his play this season that even provide a glimmer of being worthy of the #1 overall pick.

Every QB who has played this season - including all other rookies - have provided more promise than Jared "just give him time" Goff.

I've seen promise in his game... he's a rookie. and that's what rookies tend to look like more often then not.

Dec 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol well I would have been pretty stoked if we got Myles and Jimmy G

Tossing my thoughts on JG aside that scenario is not out the window until Clv gets a qb.

Dec 25, 2016 at 11:04 AM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol well I would have been pretty stoked if we got Myles and Jimmy G

Tossing my thoughts on JG aside that scenario is not out the window until Clv gets a qb.

This is true...it's more to do with rascals deal with drafting a qb (which I don't hate at all).

Dec 25, 2016 at 11:13 AM

#1632

GNS1310
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Still sick to my stomach that we won yesterday. Maybe the Browns go QB. That offense is BAD.

Dec 25, 2016 at 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Jasta:
Chad Kelly could even be a steal in the 4th or 5th if he sorts his issues and injuries out.

The Niners absolutely have to draft that guy. He probably won't pan out, but they have to take that chance w/ as bad as the QB play has been over the years. They actually have plenty of dept players, so they don't need a ton of late-round prospects competing for roster spots anyway.

Dec 25, 2016 at 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by NinerSickness:
The Niners absolutely have to draft that guy. He probably won't pan out, but they have to take that chance w/ as bad as the QB play has been over the years. They actually have plenty of dept players, so they don't need a ton of late-round prospects competing for roster spots anyway.

He's worth a flyer late in the draft but not as the main QB youre hoping to develop.

Dec 25, 2016 at 11:42 AM

#1635

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Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Your odds of finding a QB are at their highest in the 1st and drop off steadily as the draft goes on, dropping off a cliff after the 3rd round.

Gotta have a QB and the 49ers need to address it sooner rather than later. This draft is as as good as any.

I disagree. The Qb's in this draft are solid at best but they're not franchise players. I like that Miami QB in the second round, doe.

You have got to be kidding. The QBs are not franchise players and then you want Kaaya.