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Future draft QBs
Jan 16, 2016 at 7:59 PM
- SleezyT916
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Max Browne
Jan 16, 2016 at 8:55 PM
- eastcoast49ersfan
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Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen - either one would be the #1 QB this year if they were allowed to come out this year. Unfortunately, there's not much talent after Watson next year, so unless we end up with the #1 pick next year, we may be better off taking Goff this year.
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
Jan 16, 2016 at 9:10 PM
- joaosoarrs99
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen - either one would be the #1 QB this year if they were allowed to come out this year. Unfortunately, there's not much talent after Watson next year, so unless we end up with the #1 pick next year, we may be better off taking Goff this year.
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
5.5 is really slow so he wouldn't be able to scramble a lot but I think he can turn into a very good passer.
Jan 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM
- eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen - either one would be the #1 QB this year if they were allowed to come out this year. Unfortunately, there's not much talent after Watson next year, so unless we end up with the #1 pick next year, we may be better off taking Goff this year.
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
5.5 is really slow so he wouldn't be able to scramble a lot but I think he can turn into a very good passer.
I think so too. He'll likely end up as a first round pick, but I doubt he'll ever have the choppy feet that some of the successful passers in the NFL have. I think the lack of foot speed and athleticism hurts him a bit as a pocket passer especially under pressure. When he has a clean pocket and has time to set his feet, Kaaya has shown he can make throws.
Jan 16, 2016 at 10:26 PM
- fan49
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen - either one would be the #1 QB this year if they were allowed to come out this year. Unfortunately, there's not much talent after Watson next year, so unless we end up with the #1 pick next year, we may be better off taking Goff this year.
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
Chip Kelly and Trent will not draft an unathletic qb for this offense. If they did it would be completely stupid
Jan 17, 2016 at 6:25 AM
- NYniner85
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Watson under chips offense
Jan 17, 2016 at 2:24 PM
- 49ers1985
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Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
Due the recents coaching hire and rumors of the 2016 draft we might not be in position to draft a QB early in the draft so which QBs do you like that will be draft eligible in the next 2 drafts? I really like Josh Rosen and Brad Kaaya.
josh rosen was a true freshmen. won't be draft eligible till 2018.
Jan 17, 2016 at 3:33 PM
- joaosoarrs99
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Originally posted by 49ers1985:Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:Due the recents coaching hire and rumors of the 2016 draft we might not be in position to draft a QB early in the draft so which QBs do you like that will be draft eligible in the next 2 drafts? I really like Josh Rosen and Brad Kaaya.
josh rosen was a true freshmen. won't be draft eligible till 2018.
I know. It's future draft QBs not 2017 draft QBs. I used this name to include every player that is playing in college but it's not going to this draft.
Jan 17, 2016 at 3:39 PM
- Murphys1
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We are just not going to be bad enough to get Watson.
Jan 17, 2016 at 4:54 PM
- pete98146
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Start watching Luke Falk out of WSU.
Jan 17, 2016 at 8:06 PM
- GorefullBore
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Watson under chips offense![]()
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It's got to be either Deshaun Watson or Dak Prescott for me. My vote is to draft Prescott somewhere between rounds 3-5 just in case our record is too good to give us a shot at Deshaun next year. Then you still have a promising young qb with potential to develop.
Jan 17, 2016 at 11:56 PM
- zonkers
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Originally posted by 49ers1985:
Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
Due the recents coaching hire and rumors of the 2016 draft we might not be in position to draft a QB early in the draft so which QBs do you like that will be draft eligible in the next 2 drafts? I really like Josh Rosen and Brad Kaaya.
josh rosen was a true freshmen. won't be draft eligible till 2018.
Yup.
Skill set and mind is definitely there, but he needs to grow up and get stronger. IIRC, he made a few freshman mistakes at bad times (ball security).
Also, out of HS, some people (Dilfer, Stanford, Mora) apparently thought he was a bit too cocky. If Mora does his job, then Rosen should improve on that aspect by 2018.
[ Edited by zonkers on Jan 18, 2016 at 12:06 AM ]
Jan 18, 2016 at 9:09 AM
- Butter
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Originally posted by fan49:Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen - either one would be the #1 QB this year if they were allowed to come out this year. Unfortunately, there's not much talent after Watson next year, so unless we end up with the #1 pick next year, we may be better off taking Goff this year.
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
Chip Kelly and Trent will not draft an unathletic qb for this offense. If they did it would be completely stupid
Like Sam Bradford?
[ Edited by Butter on Jan 18, 2016 at 9:10 AM ]
Jan 18, 2016 at 12:26 PM
- eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Deshaun Watson and Josh Rosen - either one would be the #1 QB this year if they were allowed to come out this year. Unfortunately, there's not much talent after Watson next year, so unless we end up with the #1 pick next year, we may be better off taking Goff this year.
Kaaya has good size and a nice arm, but he's a horrendous athlete. His feet look really clunky and I was reading he runs in the 5.5 range in the 40 (could be even slower at the combine if 5.46 was his fastest hand-timed 40). I'm sure he's working on getting in shape, but your average 20 year old non-athlete can run faster than that. That's a slow time for a 350 pound lineman.
http://www.caneinsider.com/2014/09/03/tale-tape-brad-kaaya-good-bad-ugly-15059/
Chip Kelly and Trent will not draft an unathletic qb for this offense. If they did it would be completely stupid
Like Sam Bradford?
Bradford was a decent athlete coming out of college (runs in the 4.8 range). If this guy runs at the combine, he'll set the record for slowest 40 time of any QB ever recorded at the combine. There are pocket passers and then there are statues. At 37, I doubt Peyton runs faster than a 5.5 though.