Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:Any chance cleveland wont take garret
Stop us our 49ers fans wanna Garret. Then Cleveland change mind that don't want Garret? Stop copy us to draft.. smh.. stop threat about our draft..smh
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:Any chance cleveland wont take garret
Originally posted by BuZzB05:Stop us our 49ers fans wanna Garret. Then Cleveland change mind that don't want Garret? Stop copy us to draft.. smh.. stop threat about our draft..smh
Originally posted by illinois9er:Originally posted by BuZzB05:Stop us our 49ers fans wanna Garret. Then Cleveland change mind that don't want Garret? Stop copy us to draft.. smh.. stop threat about our draft..smh
I can usually piece your jive together but not this time
Originally posted by Eastcoastniner:Originally posted by illinois9er:Originally posted by BuZzB05:Stop us our 49ers fans wanna Garret. Then Cleveland change mind that don't want Garret? Stop copy us to draft.. smh.. stop threat about our draft..smh
I can usually piece your jive together but not this time
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
If it were 1978, this giy would be the number 1 pick. Because it's 2017, he lilely isn't drafted if the top 5.
Explain why Dallas wasted a top 5 pick on E.Elliot then.
Because Jerry Jones
But Leonard can still go top 5
Exactly. Every now and again it still does happen. Ezekial Elliot last year and Trent Richardson in 2012. But the reality is, it isn't a necessity at the next level. It's like the number one receiver thing. It is a great thing to have, but having the dominant alpha running back or top level receiver is not necessary for sustained winning in the NFL. Talent wise, at worse, I think Fournette is the third best player. I won't call it a wasted pick. But we could get more value than by going with Fournette. At number two, I like Myles Garrett. If Garrett is gone, then I'm warming up to trading down (and possibly back up) to come away with maybe Dalvin Cook and Corey Davis (or Mike Williams).
Also, Elliot, in spite of the Cowboys drafting at 4, had A LOT of talent on that team. A better way to look at his potential impact would be looking at Todd Gurley or Adrian Peterson as another poster suggested. Great individual players, but the team's not so much. I'd be more open to Fournette if we had some other positions filled out on our roster. I will say whoever takes him is going to get a helluva player for a long time.
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Not really fair in your assessment. On the one hand, you criticize RB's for being beneficiaries of the talent around them but ignore that with other positions. Is it possible Elliott's dominance opened opportunities to throw the ball that wouldn't have otherwise been there? It's an ecosystem where one's productivity impacts everyone else around them.
Peterson is held up as an example the choice is drafting a RB or having a winning team. The real issue in Minny was the inability to surround Peterson with other talent capable of winning games. I'd argue Peterson covered up all the bad moves Minnesota made during his era.
I can't say if Fournette is or isn't the 2ns or 3rd best player in this draft, but if he is then it would be irresponsible of ownership to turn the other cheek. The goal of any draft is to come away with talented pieces for the future and I'd argue if Fournette turns out to be the next Elliott or Peterson then it's hardly a wasted pick at all.
Teams that win consistently are those that have good QB's. So yes, QB's are by far the most important position so that's the caveat.
. Somehow, their analytics might somehow favor this guy over garrett lolol. I would see a ton of people trying to trade up for the qbs cause Lynch would be jumping for joy for Garrett.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm sending a special prayer to the football gods that Cleveland drafts Fournette. Dominant offensive player that you can plug in and hand the ball off to 25-30 times a game if you desire. They can also get by with less than elite play at QB with Fournette.
Originally posted by ninerAxe:
2017 NFL MOCK DRAFT: MATT MILLER'S POST-COMBINE PROJECTIONS
Matt Miller
NFL Draft Lead Writer
March 7, 2017
2. San Francisco 49ers
The Pick: RB Leonard Fournette, LSU
Quarterback is a gigantic need here, but the way I hear it the 49ers don't currently value the quarterbacks in this class as top picks. That could change as the team spends more time getting to know the top passers, but based on now, Leonard Fournette is the top player on the board.
Fournette won't answer every question mark on the 49ers offense, but he's a dynamic, generational talent at the running back position. And in Kyle Shanahan's scheme, Fournette can be a 1,500-yard back, given his explosion.
Trading for Kirk Cousins remains a possibility, but it shouldn't mean a straight-up trade of the No. 2 overall pick. And with Reuben Foster's off-field behavior a question, Fournette is the best player on the board for San Francisco.
Originally posted by BuZzB05:...
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Any chance cleveland wont take garret
Stop us our 49ers fans wanna Garret. Then Cleveland change mind that don't want Garret? Stop copy us to draft.. smh.. stop threat about our draft..smh