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May 1, 2015 at 10:32 PM
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Doran Grant, Josh Shaw, David Parry, Justin Hardy, Mike Davis, Jamil Douglas, Ifo Ekpre-Olumu, Mario Alford, Jake Ryan, those are all names that jump out at me.
May 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Doran Grant, Josh Shaw, David Parry, Justin Hardy, Jamil Douglas, Ekpre-Olumu, Mario Alford, Jake Ryan, those are all names that jump out at me.
Plenty of talent left on the board. I understand the "Webzone way" in that it's the perfect time to panic before the draft is even halfway through (nevermind the fact that the team has 7 picks still left to utilize), but we're in good position to get some contributors. The more players you have in camp, the more chance someone surprises and earns a shot. For me, I'd like the team to target WR, CB, and OL.
CB: Shaw/Grant/Ekpre-Olomu/Roberts
WR: Anderson/Greene/Hardy/McBride
OL: Jackson/Clemmings/Finney/Shaq Mason/Donnal
(Side note: I would not rule out the team taking one of the top remaining QBs)
May 1, 2015 at 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Doran Grant, Josh Shaw, David Parry, Justin Hardy, Jamil Douglas, Ekpre-Olumu, Mario Alford, Jake Ryan, those are all names that jump out at me.
Plenty of talent left on the board. I understand the "Webzone way" in that it's the perfect time to panic before the draft is even halfway through (nevermind the fact that the team has 7 picks still left to utilize), but we're in good position to get some contributors. The more players you have in camp, the more chance someone surprises and earns a shot. For me, I'd like the team to target WR, CB, and OL.
CB: Shaw/Grant/Ekpre-Olomu/Roberts
WR: Anderson/Greene/Hardy/McBride
OL: Jackson/Clemmings/Finney/Shaq Mason/Donnal
(Side note: I would not rule out the team taking one of the top remaining QBs)
Those CBs all sound great. I think I like Grant the best, but they all have talent. I admit I know nothing about the remaining WRs. Are any of them or the remaining RBs able to be KR/PRs? I would like to see more competition with Ellington.
Along with a RB, I would love to see us grab O'Leary or James at TE. I hope for a bounce back from Vernon, but McDonald has been disappointing and Carrier is still a little raw.
May 1, 2015 at 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Karma:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Doran Grant, Josh Shaw, David Parry, Justin Hardy, Jamil Douglas, Ekpre-Olumu, Mario Alford, Jake Ryan, those are all names that jump out at me.
Plenty of talent left on the board. I understand the "Webzone way" in that it's the perfect time to panic before the draft is even halfway through (nevermind the fact that the team has 7 picks still left to utilize), but we're in good position to get some contributors. The more players you have in camp, the more chance someone surprises and earns a shot. For me, I'd like the team to target WR, CB, and OL.
CB: Shaw/Grant/Ekpre-Olomu/Roberts
WR: Anderson/Greene/Hardy/McBride
OL: Jackson/Clemmings/Finney/Shaq Mason/Donnal
(Side note: I would not rule out the team taking one of the top remaining QBs)
Those CBs all sound great. I think I like Grant the best, but they all have talent. I admit I know nothing about the remaining WRs. Are any of them or the remaining RBs able to be KR/PRs? I would like to see more competition with Ellington.
Along with a RB, I would love to see us grab O'Leary or James at TE. I hope for a bounce back from Vernon, but McDonald has been disappointing and Carrier is still a little raw.
McBride is the only one with both KR and PR experience, but the others have fielded punts before. Niners have looked at some special teams/returner types among the prospects that are unlikely to get drafted, like Marcus Murphy for example. We might take one very late, or try to pluck one for competition in the undrafted free agent pool.
Not sure how much TE is in the mix, but a tall red-zone threat would be nice. Wouldn't mind Jesse James or Blake Bell later on. A player who I think some teams are looking at as a TE, Darren Waller, I think is very much on the 49ers radar, but they specifically spoke to him about being a WR. Dez Lewis (Central Arkansas) and Jordan Taylor (Rice) are other options for taller WR targets.
May 1, 2015 at 11:44 PM
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If Brett Hundley is still on the board at #117 I think we should draft him. It's pretty much a freebie considering we didn't have that pick at the start of the draft, and the kid has a ton of potential. Yes, he's raw and has some pocket-awareness issues, but he could sit and learn the NFL game for at least a few years before he's ready to challenge Kap. Low risk, potential high-reward pick right there.
May 2, 2015 at 1:22 AM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:If Brett Hundley is still on the board at #117 I think we should draft him. It's pretty much a freebie considering we didn't have that pick at the start of the draft, and the kid has a ton of potential. Yes, he's raw and has some pocket-awareness issues, but he could sit and learn the NFL game for at least a few years before he's ready to challenge Kap. Low risk, potential high-reward pick right there.
I have no idea what Hundley is like, but it has been a frustration for me for some time that there has been no move to try to develop a youngster whilst we still have plenty of time. Even by the "QB whisperer". Having no confidence in Gabbert I would love to see some activity at QB.
May 2, 2015 at 1:24 AM
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Great work as usual, OTC, by the way. Nice to come into a thread with a calm conversation and no one calling for Baalke to be sacked
May 2, 2015 at 2:37 AM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
If Brett Hundley is still on the board at #117 I think we should draft him.
Hundley is not an NFL-caliber QB IMO. It's gotta be Bryce Petty or stick with Gabbert.
May 2, 2015 at 2:39 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Doran Grant, Josh Shaw, David Parry, Justin Hardy, Mike Davis, Jamil Douglas, Ifo Ekpre-Olumu, Mario Alford, Jake Ryan, those are all names that jump out at me.
Would love to get Ifo. Adrian Amos would be a great pick too.
May 2, 2015 at 6:59 AM
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Can't believe Hardison is still on the board and Anderson went where we could have drafted him with our 3rd or even moved up relatively cheaply to the bottom of the 3rd to get him.
That is my real issue with the Armstead pick. To me, the talent combo of the first round CB/WR we could have gotten at 15 or 17 plus someone like Hardison/Anderson in the 4th (or by moving up with our 4th to a late 3rd) would have been a much better value and fit our immediate needs more than Armstead and whatever CB/WR we are likely to pick up in the 4th.
That is my real issue with the Armstead pick. To me, the talent combo of the first round CB/WR we could have gotten at 15 or 17 plus someone like Hardison/Anderson in the 4th (or by moving up with our 4th to a late 3rd) would have been a much better value and fit our immediate needs more than Armstead and whatever CB/WR we are likely to pick up in the 4th.
May 2, 2015 at 7:06 AM
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Clemmings or Tre Jackson or J. Harrison
Josh Shaw or Doran Grant or Ifo
Petty or Hundley
J. Allen or Langford
Robinson or Thompson
Mayle or Waller or Titus Davis or Smelter
Heeney or Tiawan Jones or Jake Ryan
Still lots of good choices!
Josh Shaw or Doran Grant or Ifo
Petty or Hundley
J. Allen or Langford
Robinson or Thompson
Mayle or Waller or Titus Davis or Smelter
Heeney or Tiawan Jones or Jake Ryan
Still lots of good choices!
May 2, 2015 at 7:06 AM
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Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Can't believe Hardison is still on the board and Anderson went where we could have drafted him with our 3rd or even moved up relatively cheaply to the bottom of the 3rd to get him.
That is my real issue with the Armstead pick. To me, the talent combo of the first round CB/WR we could have gotten at 15 or 17 plus someone like Hardison/Anderson in the 4th (or by moving up with our 4th to a late 3rd) would have been a much better value and fit our immediate needs more than Armstead and whatever CB/WR we are likely to pick up in the 4th.
Its clear that the front office is looking long-term, and in that case, with Armstead you're talking about a guy with a much higher ceiling than Anderson.
May 2, 2015 at 7:08 AM
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What's the knock on Diggs? Seems like a great value at WR but I haven't had time to look into him more than YouTube deep?
May 2, 2015 at 7:14 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Its clear that the front office is looking long-term, and in that case, with Armstead you're talking about a guy with a much higher ceiling than Anderson.
I agree with that. But I don't think the difference between Armstead and Anderson or Hardison is nearly as great as the difference between Johnson/Peters and the CBs we could get now, so for me Johnson or Peters and Hardison or Anderson would be a much better combo than Armstead and say Grant.
IMO, that would fill both our long term and short term needs with a higher combination of talent.