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FL9er · 2015-04-25T18:14:43-07:00

Post any you come across here. -Lots of team in play for Mariota as MadDog mentoned. -Seattle would LOVE for DGB to be available at #63, but feel they have no shot. -Andrus Peat apparently doesn't get past the Rams at #10 (They were never taking a QB or WR; Jeff Fisher is very Singletary-like as far as attitude toward offensive football) -Detroit looking at Xavier Cooper in the 1st 2 rounds. -NE looking to trade down and they like AJ Cann. -Rams and Broncos looking at ILBs (Dawson, McKinney). -Some teams have Taiwan Jones rated as a 3rd rounder. -Eric Rowe as MadDog has mentioned could go as high as 20 to the Eagles (barring a trade up for Mariota) or to GB who is high on him. Seen as a late 1st/early 2nd guy. -Kevin Johnson doesn't get past GB in round 1. -Saints and Vic Beasley. Rob Ryan loves the guy.

Apr 28, 2015 at 2:45 PM

#61

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Originally posted by Since07:
"At least two teams, possibly more, have approached NY Jets about trading for Muhammad Wilkerson." - Adam Schefter

"Eagles acquired Bradford to be their QB. No trade pawn. He'd only sign extension with Philly with no-trade clause. Wants to play for Chip and Shurmur." - Chris Mortensen

would give our first next year and 2nd this year for wilkerson in a heartbeat. Our dline would violate teams.

Apr 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM

#62

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Originally posted by Since07:
"At least two teams, possibly more, have approached NY Jets about trading for Muhammad Wilkerson." - Adam Schefter

"Eagles acquired Bradford to be their QB. No trade pawn. He'd only sign extension with Philly with no-trade clause. Wants to play for Chip and Shurmur." - Chris Mortensen

would give our first next year and 2nd this year for wilkerson in a heartbeat. Our dline would violate teams.

What?! Everyone is hating on me for wanting to trade two 2nds for cooper and you want to give up more for a DL that's heading into a contract year?

Apr 28, 2015 at 4:43 PM

#63

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Originally posted by Since07:
"At least two teams, possibly more, have approached NY Jets about trading for Muhammad Wilkerson." - Adam Schefter

"Eagles acquired Bradford to be their QB. No trade pawn. He'd only sign extension with Philly with no-trade clause. Wants to play for Chip and Shurmur." - Chris Mortensen

would give our first next year and 2nd this year for wilkerson in a heartbeat. Our dline would violate teams.

Why not use that ammo for Leo Wiliams??

Apr 28, 2015 at 4:49 PM

#64

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Originally posted by Since07:
Why not use that ammo for Leo Wiliams??

Would be happy with that too.

Apr 28, 2015 at 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
What?! Everyone is hating on me for wanting to trade two 2nds for cooper and you want to give up more for a DL that's heading into a contract year?

We could sign him long term. He is the third best 3-4 end in the league behind watt and cowboy, and he is only 25. hasnt even entered his prime.

Apr 28, 2015 at 4:57 PM

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
What?! Everyone is hating on me for wanting to trade two 2nds for cooper and you want to give up more for a DL that's heading into a contract year?

We could sign him long term. He is the third best 3-4 end in the league behind watt and cowboy, and he is only 25. hasnt even entered his prime.

Richardson is better.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM

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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Richardson is better.

damn, just checked the pff stats and you are in fact correct. Still, Wilkerson would be a very solid pick up and is quite elite.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:02 PM

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Richardson is better.

damn, just checked the pff stats and you are in fact correct. Still, Wilkerson would be a very solid pick up and is quite elite.

Agreed.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
damn, just checked the pff stats and you are in fact correct. Still, Wilkerson would be a very solid pick up and is quite elite.

You don't trade a lot of high draft picks for a one year rental. Even if we sign Wilkerson long term, we would have to pay him market value which could be $15-20 million a year. You don't get better by trading away multiple high draft picks to pay someone market value. If he understands taxes, we may need to pay him more than most teams would to sign him, especially given the current state of the team.

Did you not see Lesean McCoy get traded for an injury prone ILB earlier this offseason? Teams around the league are recognizing that players' value is based on how much they are getting paid.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
What?! Everyone is hating on me for wanting to trade two 2nds for cooper and you want to give up more for a DL that's heading into a contract year?

We could sign him long term. He is the third best 3-4 end in the league behind watt and cowboy, and he is only 25. hasnt even entered his prime.

He will command top cash I doubt baalke wants to give away top picks AND pay him, he's never worked like that.

Sorry man not gonna happen.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by btthepunk:
Agreed.

Although my friend who is a diehard jets fan says he prefers Wilkerson a bit and says he is overall a better player in his opinion.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
He will command top cash I doubt baalke wants to give away top picks AND pay him, he's never worked like that.

Sorry man not gonna happen.

Oh I know, its never gonna happen. Its a very un-baalke move. Id just be stoked if it did.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
You don't trade a lot of high draft picks for a one year rental. Even if we sign Wilkerson long term, we would have to pay him market value which could be $15-20 million a year. You don't get better by trading away multiple high draft picks to pay someone market value. If he understands taxes, we may need to pay him more than most teams would to sign him, especially given the current state of the team.

Did you not see Lesean McCoy get traded for an injury prone ILB earlier this offseason? Teams around the league are recognizing that players' value is based on how much they are getting paid.

Yes, its a pipe dream. But this just means we can trade a single second for him right? He will never fit in out cap. But again, it would be naughty if we had.

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:18 PM

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PFT is stating the Vikes are interested in trading down from 11. Cant post a link from my phone for some reason.

That would be a good spot to move up to if Baalke wants to move up

Apr 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by Butter:
PFT is stating the Vikes are interested in trading down from 11. Cant post a link from my phone for some reason.

That would be a good spot to move up to if Baalke wants to move up

Could be a good spot to move to for Parker

Apr 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

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— Two offensive guards— Florida State's Tre' Jackson and Alabama's Arie Kouandjio — have failed multiple team physicals due to chronic knee problems, per team sources. There are always draft-week surprises when high-caliber players aren't drafted due to injuries, and the two guards are potentially in that category right now.