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Originally posted by JustinNiner:
really? because the niners won most of their superbowls with some pretty damn good WRs. We at least need one very talented one who has some speed. I do agree with some of your post though
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
We need a better designed passing attack more than we need a better receivers. No one could possible excel in the passing system we have, and Keapernick needs to improve his preens reads, as well as his vision of the field. Last season we could have had Megatron, and Dez Bryant, and would have made little difference.
I see bigger need at corner, and d-line. I also, depending on Hunters health this we need a speedy back. Yes we do need a deep threat, but we also need an offensive system and a coaching staff that develops that threat, and utilizes it.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
We need a better designed passing attack more than we need a better receivers. No one could possible excel in the passing system we have, and Keapernick needs to improve his preens reads, as well as his vision of the field. Last season we could have had Megatron, and Dez Bryant, and would have made little difference.
I see bigger need at corner, and d-line. I also, depending on Hunters health this we need a speedy back. Yes we do need a deep threat, but we also need an offensive system and a coaching staff that develops that threat, and utilizes it.
I agree with that.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by GolittaCamper:We need a better designed passing attack more than we need a better receivers. No one could possible excel in the passing system we have, and Keapernick needs to improve his preens reads, as well as his vision of the field. Last season we could have had Megatron, and Dez Bryant, and would have made little difference.
I see bigger need at corner, and d-line. I also, depending on Hunters health this we need a speedy back. Yes we do need a deep threat, but we also need an offensive system and a coaching staff that develops that threat, and utilizes it.
I agree with that.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
really? because the niners won most of their superbowls with some pretty damn good WRs. We at least need one very talented one who has some speed. I do agree with some of your post though
They also won all of their Superbowl's with HOF's at QB. Times change, circumstances change
Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
really? because the niners won most of their superbowls with some pretty damn good WRs. We at least need one very talented one who has some speed. I do agree with some of your post though
They also won all of their Superbowl's with HOF's at QB. Times change, circumstances change
HOF coaches as well
Originally posted by Jcool:
Well except George Seifert is not in the HOF.
Originally posted by LVJay:Originally posted by Jcool:Well except George Seifert is not in the HOF.
do you believe he'll get there, tho?
Originally posted by jbeale49:2012 case in point why I'm petrified of drafting WR early...
It's a high risk high reward selection.
Blackmon
Floyd
Wright
AJJ
Quick
Hill
Alshon
Randle
DeVier frickin Posey
TJ Graham
Sanu
TY Hilton
Might as well throw a dart. There are more quality choices in the last 6 than the first 6. DGB and Parker scare the crap out of me.
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Well except George Seifert is not in the HOF.
do you believe he'll get there, tho?
His stint with Carolina hurt him a ton.
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Well except George Seifert is not in the HOF.
do you believe he'll get there, tho?
His stint with Carolina hurt him a ton.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
How exactly did he mess up? Nobody thought Ellington was a bad pick, many considered him to be a steal. Do you really believe that the previous coaching staff would have done much better with an Odell Beckham Jr? I don't. He wouldn't have been half the player he was with the Giants. They simply didn't do a very good job of putting guys in a position to be successful, rather than playing to a guy's individual skills, it seems like they widely treated players as "one size fits all."
Until you finally let these guys play and have a system that plays to their strengths, then it won't matter who the hell you draft. All the people who think that drafting some monster receiver would be a salve for all offensive struggles I think would be incredibly disappointed. Forget the drafting, this team hasn't shown the aptitude to properly coach wide receivers in a long time. Pittsburgh took a guy in the 6th round in 2010 who was the best wide receiver in football last year. They've proven time and time again that they can scout receivers but also that they can coach guys up to extract their maximum potential. They have a system in place, they know what they need, they go out and get it, they know that they can coach these guys up, it all works together seamlessly.
If you want to look at the difference between the 49ers, the Packers, the Patriots, the Steelers....etc. A big part of why those teams have success is established and effective coaching of their wide receivers. Even in Seattle they find ways to utilize a bunch of scrubs to the best possible effect. Until that changes, until the 49ers are consistently able to coach up young WR's AND call offense that plays into guys individual strengths, its never going to be much better, I don't care much who you draft. Spend a 1st rounder or a 7th rounder, you're still inevitably going to end up disappointed as the guy will never reach his full potential. Hopefully things are changing for the better with Curry and Henry as the WR coaches but only time will tell on that.
Originally posted by genus49:Not all draft classes are created equal. Throw a dart last year and odds are you hit a good player.