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OnTheClock's Pre-Combine Mock 1/31/15
Jan 31, 2015 at 5:01 PM
- GorefullBore
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I like it for the most part, I'm just not sure about Devin Smith that high. I'm just not sure if he is much more than a one trick pony, granted that is a trick we need, but at 15 I think you want more of a multifaceted guy. Maybe he would be a trade down possibility or maybe I'm wrong and he is the next Beckham Jr. I like the rest of the draft beyond that though great job as always OTC.
Jan 31, 2015 at 5:08 PM
- communist
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1)According to the CBS-report, his route tree was very limited. I don't know about that one. The guy sounds like Martavis Bryant. Headscratcher, imho.
I mean, Aldon Smith was a top-15 pick, iirc. AJ Jenkins could have been picked at the beginning of round 2 by the Rams (CBS had him 58 ovr though), Jimmie Ward was viewed as a 1-2nd round prospect by CBS, Eric Reid was a 1st-2nd round pick.
Here, we sit in the middle of the 1st round and you pick a guy who is 46th ovr. We are talking about a difference of a round. I don't know about that one. Save for AJ Jenkins, Baalke never reached that far.
2)Ok.
3)t-Rex arms, won't be picked by us
Though, Borland says hello to me.
4)If he is that good, I'd pick him in round 3.
5)like it, want to see us pick a reliable Safety-backup anyway.
6)we need a TE sooner or later. Like it.
The remaining guys, I don't really care.
I mean, Aldon Smith was a top-15 pick, iirc. AJ Jenkins could have been picked at the beginning of round 2 by the Rams (CBS had him 58 ovr though), Jimmie Ward was viewed as a 1-2nd round prospect by CBS, Eric Reid was a 1st-2nd round pick.
Here, we sit in the middle of the 1st round and you pick a guy who is 46th ovr. We are talking about a difference of a round. I don't know about that one. Save for AJ Jenkins, Baalke never reached that far.
2)Ok.
3)t-Rex arms, won't be picked by us
Though, Borland says hello to me.
4)If he is that good, I'd pick him in round 3.
5)like it, want to see us pick a reliable Safety-backup anyway.
6)we need a TE sooner or later. Like it.
The remaining guys, I don't really care.
Jan 31, 2015 at 5:16 PM
- sf_nicoya
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drafting devin smith in the 1st after all the bs we endured this offseason would be the final kick to the nuts.
Jan 31, 2015 at 5:36 PM
- crew
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I like Smith as well, Niners can trade down 8-10 spots in 1st to get him and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd. Both Smith and Dorsett will be gone by Niners 2nd round pick.
Niners might be better off taking White or Parker at #15.
I prefer Preston Smith DE in the 3rd over Anderson and Xavier Williams NT at the end of the 4th with the comp pick.
I lean to taking Duke Johnson RB in the 2nd, but Langford would be my 2nd RB choice.
Like the Marpet OL and the Gardner WR picks. Would take Byron Jones CB UConn over Rowe in the 5th.
Niners might be better off taking White or Parker at #15.
I prefer Preston Smith DE in the 3rd over Anderson and Xavier Williams NT at the end of the 4th with the comp pick.
I lean to taking Duke Johnson RB in the 2nd, but Langford would be my 2nd RB choice.
Like the Marpet OL and the Gardner WR picks. Would take Byron Jones CB UConn over Rowe in the 5th.
[ Edited by crew on Jan 31, 2015 at 5:36 PM ]
Jan 31, 2015 at 5:38 PM
- genus49
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I don't think it's wise to mock someone who has no business going there just because you think Baalke somehow drafts to make fans mad. If he's gonna do that then he'd draft Sammie Coates there since he's arguably a better one trick pony than Smith and has better size.
Jan 31, 2015 at 5:53 PM
- communist
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Originally posted by genus49:He said, Baalke was picking guys we weren't expecting to be picked by us in the first round at all.
I don't think it's wise to mock someone who has no business going there just because you think Baalke somehow drafts to make fans mad. If he's gonna do that then he'd draft Sammie Coates there since he's arguably a better one trick pony than Smith and has better size.
Jan 31, 2015 at 6:01 PM
- DeUh
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Huge fan of Langford in the middle rounds and agree with your assessment. High chance he makes it into my 2nd version.
Jan 31, 2015 at 6:14 PM
- LasVegasWally
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VERY interesting.
HATE the 1st round pick
If Skuya resings will Odighizuha pick be moot?
Also hoping for Henry Anderson
VERY interesting pick - Marpet
Good job!
HATE the 1st round pick
If Skuya resings will Odighizuha pick be moot?
Also hoping for Henry Anderson
VERY interesting pick - Marpet
Good job!
Jan 31, 2015 at 6:50 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:VERY interesting.
HATE the 1st round pick
If Skuya resings will Odighizuha pick be moot?
Also hoping for Henry Anderson
VERY interesting pick - Marpet
Good job!
Glad to hear you hate the first rounder
means it could be fairly accurate. Right now Smith is projected to go at the top of the second round. I think between he and Coates I actually like Smith more because of his quickness. His change of direction, to put it plainly, is better than Coates. He would need to develop his route tree but I believe he can do it.I would love to be wrong in my projection that Trent would reach or pick a low need position. I just feel that history suggests we should probably not get hopes up too much there. I do anticipate a solid draft overall though.
Jan 31, 2015 at 7:05 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Definitely an interesting mock.
Absolutely baffled by the 1st round pick, but love the 2nd - 6th round picks. Hate the Devin Gardner pick. Seems like a big waste of a pick even for a 7th rounder. Then again, I see your point about Baalke's draft history. What about the comp picks? Developmental QB and another defensive linemen perhaps?
Absolutely baffled by the 1st round pick, but love the 2nd - 6th round picks. Hate the Devin Gardner pick. Seems like a big waste of a pick even for a 7th rounder. Then again, I see your point about Baalke's draft history. What about the comp picks? Developmental QB and another defensive linemen perhaps?
Jan 31, 2015 at 7:15 PM
- GORO
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I think your on to something with the first pick but maybe Jalen Strong wr instead passing on higher ranked wr. Also with Logan as the Qb coach and former ECU coach he has seen Hardy Justin could be a latter pick. But Maybe they go DL with the first pick.
Jan 31, 2015 at 7:17 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Definitely an interesting mock.
Absolutely baffled by the 1st round pick, but love the 2nd - 6th round picks. Hate the Devin Gardner pick. Seems like a big waste of a pick even for a 7th rounder. Then again, I see your point about Baalke's draft history. What about the comp picks? Developmental QB and another defensive linemen perhaps?
I was thinking the team might target the kid from Southeast Louisiana, Bryan Bennett. All that kid needs is to do is hammer down the fundamentals of the QB position both physically and mentally to the level where he can maintain consistency at it. Right now, the obvious knock is he relies too much on athleticism and doesn't have the rocket arm. He's very similar to Russell Wilson except is more of a project in terms of technique and will have a harder adjustment coming from a small school. If he was in a major conference, he'd probably be looked at a round higher. But he's one guy I'd be hopeful they'd consider.
Jan 31, 2015 at 7:26 PM
- OnTheClock
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Originally posted by GORO:I think your on to something with the first pick but maybe Jalen Strong wr instead passing on higher ranked wr. Also with Logan as the Qb coach and former ECU coach he has seen Hardy Justin could be a latter pick. But Maybe they go DL with the first pick.
I think Justin Smith is a big key to the draft. I think we will take a strong look at DL and WR for the first pick with OLB being a dark horse since Brooks likely won't be back.
If we go DL, I think we strongly consider Malcom Brown who I'm a big fan of. Scouts project him as a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 penetrator with the versatility to line up on the nose if asked to do so. The league is moving towards the heavier side when it comes to 3-4 DEs. Most of our fans are unaware that the 49ers have one of the lighter DLs in the league among 3-4 teams, so that's something to keep in mind come draft day. There are a lot of nice DL prospects that you might not originally have thought were fits.
I'll throw some other names at you: Xavier Cooper at Washington State (who runs a 3-4), Mario Edwards (FSU), Kaleb Eulls (Mississipi State), Derrick Lott (Chattanooga), and Ray Drew (Georgia, and a very athletic high upside guy. Could run in the 4.7s or 4.8 at 285 pounds)
Jan 31, 2015 at 7:28 PM
- GORO
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I think Justin Smith is a big key to the draft. I think we will take a strong look at DL and WR for the first pick with OLB being a dark horse since Brooks likely won't be back.
If we go DL, I think we strongly consider Malcom Brown who I'm a big fan of. Scouts project him as a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 penetrator with the versatility to line up on the nose if asked to do so. The league is moving towards the heavier side when it comes to 3-4 DEs. Most of our fans are unaware that the 49ers have one of the lighter DLs in the league among 3-4 teams, so that's something to keep in mind come draft day. There are a lot of nice DL prospects that you might not originally have thought were fits.
I'll throw some other names at you: Xavier Cooper at Washington State (who runs a 3-4), Mario Edwards (FSU), Kaleb Eulls (Mississipi State), Derrick Lott (Chattanooga), and Ray Drew (Georgia, and a very athletic high upside guy. Could run in the 4.7s or 4.8 at 285 pounds)
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