Phoenix49ers 2015 Mock Draft v1.0

If we could draft oakman in the 2nd round I would be so freaking excited. If we spend a 1st on him I'll be so freaking mad. I hate watching him "tackle" reaching his arms out and trying to arm tackle is almost as frustrating as watching arik armstead unable to shed blocks.

And watch Garret Grayson's highlights everyone gets a sneak peak at one of next years top receiver prospects rashard higgins #82.

First off, I say that ALL THE TIME. Second, I like Kevin White I just always assumed he was out of reach for us. The rest I've contemplated before but haven't pulled the trigger to put them in my own mock drafts. I like Oakman from a physical perspective, but I don't like how little sand he has in his pants. I don't know how well he would hold up at the point of attack when dealing with professional lineman who can get under his pads fairly easily. Laken Tomlinson could potentially do very well if Thomas win the other inside spot. Having Staley-Thomas-Kilgore-Tomlinson-Davis would create a very athletic line IMO. Grayson is a solid QB if given time to develop. The rest I haven't studied as much but looks like it hits most of our dire needs pretty well. I definitely feel we should go after WR, DL, OL. With CB, S, TE, RB being needs for depth.

I think we need a TE more than we need a guard. I thought Looney was playing better than Boone is, and I think Thomas is the truth. Looser of MMart/Kilgore provides great interior depth, JMart provides emergency depth as the other active OL on game day.

I think Vernon is gone, unless the team knows something we don't about his awful season. Carrier looks promising, but is still improving as a blocker. VMac does everything right accept catch the ball. We need a complete TE as a starter, IMO. Good TEs can convert easy throws for a QB learning a new system.

Thanks for all the work, man. Looks good! Love the White/Grayson picks! Not sure Oakman will make it as a 3-4 guy. Piss-poor tackling usually tells me dude's not a technician or dude doesn't like the contact. That's usually badnews for a 3-4 DE (if we're still a 3-4 by draft time).

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I think we need a TE more than we need a guard. I thought Looney was playing better than Boone is, and I think Thomas is the truth. Looser of MMart/Kilgore provides great interior depth, JMart provides emergency depth as the other active OL on game day.

I think Vernon is gone, unless the team knows something we don't about his awful season. Carrier looks promising, but is still improving as a blocker. VMac does everything right accept catch the ball. We need a complete TE as a starter, IMO. Good TEs can convert easy throws for a QB learning a new system.

Thanks for all the work, man. Looks good! Love the White/Grayson picks! Not sure Oakman will make it as a 3-4 guy. Piss-poor tackling usually tells me dude's not a technician or dude doesn't like the contact. That's usually badnews for a 3-4 DE (if we're still a 3-4 by draft time).

The problem is that this draft is truly craptastic for TE's. I mean I don't see anyone after the first round that would be any real improvement over who the 49ers have. Its just a bad, bad draft for TE's. I do however think that VD stays, heals up, maybe gets rejuvenated in a new offensive scheme. I think Carrier showed a lot of promise and that McDonald could be a good performer in a better scheme.

I love the first 2 picks - LOVE LOVE LOVE THOSE PICKS. Not too wild about the 3rd round guard. The combination of Boone, Thomas, and Looney should suffice at the position. We also got some PS candidates.

I think you gotta hit RB earlier, especially if Frank Gore isn't resigned.

Originally posted by GEEK:
I love the first 2 picks - LOVE LOVE LOVE THOSE PICKS. Not too wild about the 3rd round guard. The combination of Boone, Thomas, and Looney should suffice at the position. We also got some PS candidates.

I think you gotta hit RB earlier, especially if Frank Gore isn't resigned.

I think Looney is still largely an unknown quantity, but he may develop. I do see Iupati walking and Boone may not even be on the roster next season as well, hence the need for more guard depth, even with Brandon Thomas coming aboard.

As far as RB goes, I was certainly looking at it but see a playmaking WR and DL help as bigger needs. With Hyde, Hunter returning, a big physical guy who can pound the football would be a nice addition. If not going DL in the 2nd, then a guy like Tevin Coleman or Duke Johnson would both be intriguing choices.

Phoenix, the offense needs more speed. White may be great, but the Niners and Kap need a constant threat to go long not just a "decent vertical threat." Also, at RB the Niners need at least one guy who can be breakaway threat. If Gore, Iupati, Boone/A.Davis leaves, the team won't be stuck on the power game.

Maybe I've become too enamored with top end speed, but I feel it is an absolute must in this year's draft. The good news is that the team doesn't absolutely have to use a first round pick on one, although it would be nice to have a player that could fly and could potentially be a day one starter. That would be a great problem to have with guys like Stevie Johnson and Anquan Boldin still on board. But keeping in mind that 2015 is likely Boldin's last season (or at least should be the final one where we NEED him to be a major contributor), it wouldn't hurt to add some nice size on the outside. With that said, do you think the 49ers will finally double dip at receiver and take two guys? A guy like Kevin White (Sammie Coates, DeVante Parker, Rashad Greene, etc) are instant starters in my opinion and we can add another late in the draft. Preferably a great catcher that may drop because of speed issues. Do you envision a player the caliber of Jarvis Greene slipping to the 4th or 5th because they run a 4.7 at the combine?

I totally forgot about the presence of Carrier, while not a starter, should be a key role player in our offense next season. So perhaps TE isn't as much of a spot to worry about as I previously thought. Perhaps a fully healthy group of Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald, Derek Carrier, and Trey Milliard (already a crowded group_ can do some big things in 2015.

I love the pick of Oakman in round 2. Tomsula has done wonders with UDFAs like Tony Jerod-Eddie and gotten mileage out of other guys of a similar caliber. He revived Glen Dorsey's career. We are beginning to see what he can do with Tank Carradine. I would love for Tomsula to get his hands on a talented prospect like Shawn Oakman. Considering what he's done with late picks and UDFAs, I think he can turned more talented prospects like Carradine and Shawn Oakman into Pro-Bowl level players. We also need more D-line help and may need Quinton Dial to play more NT than DE, because as you alluded to, Ian Williams has some injury issues. I'm not sure about taking an O-lineman. I think this has been a bad year overall for the O-line that could be in part due to a drop off in play, but I mostly look at coaching considering EVERYONE has declined in play this year. Could the absence of Tom Drevno be a reason as well? Who knows. I'd rather see a back like Duke Johnson taken at this point, which would allow

I like the remainder of the picks. Steady flow of young talent on a team that will soon be bidding adieu to some familiar veterans.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Phoenix, the offense needs more speed. White may be great, but the Niners and Kap need a constant threat to go long not just a "decent vertical threat." Also, at RB the Niners need at least one guy who can be breakaway threat. If Gore, Iupati, Boone/A.Davis leaves, the team won't be stuck on the power game.

I get that, if you've been reading my posts over the past few years, I've been damn near fanatical about adding more speed to this offense, especially considering it is one of the weaknesses when attacking the Seahawks defense. That said if the 49ers have a shot at a guy I think can be a legit #1 WR in White, someone that is a dynamic playmaker and will draw special attention from the defense, I think you have to take the shot, especially if Crabtree is going to walk.

I look at Cooper and White as two WR's with true top echelon WR potential and I think White might even have a higher ceiling than Cooper. If you can get a special talent like that, I don't see how you can pass up on him. Its a BPA type of deal at that point.


Now if White happens to be gone, then I would shift towards DL in the first and then adding a guy like Sammie Coates as the deep threat at WR, or later on, Tyler Lockett of Kansas State who has drawn some comparisons to T.Y. Hilton.


As far as RB, I'm a fan of guys like Tevin Coleman and Duke Johnson and think they'd add an important dimension to the offense but considering where they are expected to go, I felt that DL was a higher priority. I really am a fan of Hilliard, I think he's a guy who can really pummel defenses, just a pure battering ram while Hyde has a little more speed and explosiveness to get to the outside. I just love the thought of seeing both those guys make up a mauling duo that simply beats defenses down.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Phoenix, the offense needs more speed. White may be great, but the Niners and Kap need a constant threat to go long not just a "decent vertical threat." Also, at RB the Niners need at least one guy who can be breakaway threat. If Gore, Iupati, Boone/A.Davis leaves, the team won't be stuck on the power game.

I get that, if you've been reading my posts over the past few years, I've been damn near fanatical about adding more speed to this offense, especially considering it is one of the weaknesses when attacking the Seahawks defense. That said if the 49ers have a shot at a guy I think can be a legit #1 WR in White, someone that is a dynamic playmaker and will draw special attention from the defense, I think you have to take the shot, especially if Crabtree is going to walk.

I look at Cooper and White as two WR's with true top echelon WR potential and I think White might even have a higher ceiling than Cooper. If you can get a special talent like that, I don't see how you can pass up on him. Its a BPA type of deal at that point.


Now if White happens to be gone, then I would shift towards DL in the first and then adding a guy like Sammie Coates as the deep threat at WR, or later on, Tyler Lockett of Kansas State who has drawn some comparisons to T.Y. Hilton.


As far as RB, I'm a fan of guys like Tevin Coleman and Duke Johnson and think they'd add an important dimension to the offense but considering where they are expected to go, I felt that DL was a higher priority. I really am a fan of Hilliard, I think he's a guy who can really pummel defenses, just a pure battering ram while Hyde has a little more speed and explosiveness to get to the outside. I just love the thought of seeing both those guys make up a mauling duo that simply beats defenses down.

I'd like to see the Niners trade up in the draft (or trade for an established NFL player) they feel is an immediate and constant threat. Picking players that simply fall to the Niners' spot in the draft is not aggressive enough. Perhaps White is that guy, but if he is, don't let another team select him. The Niners should be looking for two such players. Perhaps Ellington can be the other. Perhaps they'll have to wait until the 2016 draft.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Phoenix, the offense needs more speed. White may be great, but the Niners and Kap need a constant threat to go long not just a "decent vertical threat." Also, at RB the Niners need at least one guy who can be breakaway threat. If Gore, Iupati, Boone/A.Davis leaves, the team won't be stuck on the power game.

I get that, if you've been reading my posts over the past few years, I've been damn near fanatical about adding more speed to this offense, especially considering it is one of the weaknesses when attacking the Seahawks defense. That said if the 49ers have a shot at a guy I think can be a legit #1 WR in White, someone that is a dynamic playmaker and will draw special attention from the defense, I think you have to take the shot, especially if Crabtree is going to walk.

I look at Cooper and White as two WR's with true top echelon WR potential and I think White might even have a higher ceiling than Cooper. If you can get a special talent like that, I don't see how you can pass up on him. Its a BPA type of deal at that point.


Now if White happens to be gone, then I would shift towards DL in the first and then adding a guy like Sammie Coates as the deep threat at WR, or later on, Tyler Lockett of Kansas State who has drawn some comparisons to T.Y. Hilton.


As far as RB, I'm a fan of guys like Tevin Coleman and Duke Johnson and think they'd add an important dimension to the offense but considering where they are expected to go, I felt that DL was a higher priority. I really am a fan of Hilliard, I think he's a guy who can really pummel defenses, just a pure battering ram while Hyde has a little more speed and explosiveness to get to the outside. I just love the thought of seeing both those guys make up a mauling duo that simply beats defenses down.

Thanks for the early mock! I agree that if you have a chance to get White (prob have to move up) then I'm all for it! But let's look at getting some speed on offense this off season in the draft or FA...

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I get that, if you've been reading my posts over the past few years, I've been damn near fanatical about adding more speed to this offense, especially considering it is one of the weaknesses when attacking the Seahawks defense. That said if the 49ers have a shot at a guy I think can be a legit #1 WR in White, someone that is a dynamic playmaker and will draw special attention from the defense, I think you have to take the shot, especially if Crabtree is going to walk.

I look at Cooper and White as two WR's with true top echelon WR potential and I think White might even have a higher ceiling than Cooper. If you can get a special talent like that, I don't see how you can pass up on him. Its a BPA type of deal at that point.


Now if White happens to be gone, then I would shift towards DL in the first and then adding a guy like Sammie Coates as the deep threat at WR, or later on, Tyler Lockett of Kansas State who has drawn some comparisons to T.Y. Hilton.


As far as RB, I'm a fan of guys like Tevin Coleman and Duke Johnson and think they'd add an important dimension to the offense but considering where they are expected to go, I felt that DL was a higher priority. I really am a fan of Hilliard, I think he's a guy who can really pummel defenses, just a pure battering ram while Hyde has a little more speed and explosiveness to get to the outside. I just love the thought of seeing both those guys make up a mauling duo that simply beats defenses down.

Coates strikes me as the type of guy who always builds a ton of momentum in the draft run-up, starting with a crazy combine. I think he'll go late in the 1st somewhere. I don't think he'll be around when we pick in the second

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Coates strikes me as the type of guy who always builds a ton of momentum in the draft run-up, starting with a crazy combine. I think he'll go late in the 1st somewhere. I don't think he'll be around when we pick in the second

Its possible, but I don't see him nearly as polished as Cooks was in this past draft. He's pretty limited as a route runner and they haven't asked him to do a wide variety of stuff in that offense. I see him going anywhere from the late 1st to the late 2nd round, but as you said, the offseason can change a lot of stuff.