Almost draft time - here is a 2 round mock plus extra NINER picks

I give you points for originality. It sure was a lot more fun to read than all these cookie cutter mocks out there.

According to this we gave a 1st and 2nd for Cooks. I would rather trade back to #40 , pick up an early 3rd rd pick, draft Donte Moncreif or Jordan Mathews and use the #56 pick we didn't trade away to draft Stephen Tuitt which you have exactly at #56 going to bal.

Basically we could have Cooks or Mathews, Tuitt and an early 3rd rounder. I would take the latter.

Originally posted by MC9BEAT:

According to this we gave a 1st and 2nd for Cooks. I would rather trade back to #40 , pick up an early 3rd rd pick, draft Donte Moncreif or Jordan Mathews and use the #56 pick we didn't trade away to draft Stephen Tuitt which you have exactly at #56 going to bal.

Basically we could have Cooks or Mathews, Tuitt and an early 3rd rounder. I would take the latter.

I can't argue w/this.

Originally posted by MC9BEAT:

According to this we gave a 1st and 2nd for Cooks. I would rather trade back to #40 , pick up an early 3rd rd pick, draft Donte Moncreif or Jordan Mathews and use the #56 pick we didn't trade away to draft Stephen Tuitt which you have exactly at #56 going to bal.

Basically we could have Cooks or Mathews, Tuitt and an early 3rd rounder. I would take the latter.

I personally agree and think we should stay put and possibly try to use some of our lower picks to move up in 2nd or 3rd round. Baalke has shown time and time again he dictates the draft and moves up to get who he wants.

I do not agree though with your picks. I doubt Mathews will help alter defenses like a Cooks and I think that is what Baalke will look for. I do not want Tuitt anywhere near our team. Even TJE would beat him out on the depth chart.

The problem I see taking Cooks, Beckham or any of the smaller speed guys #1 is they'll likely be slot receivers in Harbaugh's offense. Nothing wrong w/slot receivers, but Harbaugh loves his two big WR's. With likely Crabtree gone in 2015, that creates a big hole. So think it'd be better to grab a top CB first, then choose from among Matthews, Adams, Latimer. TB can get a speed guy later...maybe Ellington. If Baalke does go smaller WR early, then who replaces Crabtree?

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:

The problem I see taking Cooks, Beckham or any of the smaller speed guys #1 is they'll likely be slot receivers in Harbaugh's offense. Nothing wrong w/slot receivers, but Harbaugh loves his two big WR's. With likely Crabtree gone in 2015, that creates a big hole. So think it'd be better to grab a top CB first, then choose from among Matthews, Adams, Latimer. TB can get a speed guy later...maybe Ellington. If Baalke does go smaller WR early, then who replaces Crabtree?

I see and understand your logic. I don't think it is a foregone conclusion Crabs will be gone. They will weigh free agent market and 2015 draft market to determine if he is worth a few more millions than they are willing to spend. Regardless, I see your point. I'm really high on Latimer and can see him being a target in the first. He has natural hands and jump ball experience. I like Adams in the 2nd and even compare him strongly in my rankings to Crabtree.

I question the decision to move up for a cb in the first. I don't see the potential for any of them to displace Brock as a #1 and even Gilbert wouldn't be guaranteed #2. Maybe Fuller because he is better in the slot. I think 2nd and 3rd is where to get a db for the value like a Baptiste, Desir or Roberson. They need more development but what is expected out of a 2nd or 3rd.

Don't like this mock. DL is the 2nd deepest position on the team and no more than a single developmental prospect should be drafted imo.

I would not move up for Cooks nor would I take any WR in the 1st unless that wr is Watkins.

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:

The problem I see taking Cooks, Beckham or any of the smaller speed guys #1 is they'll likely be slot receivers in Harbaugh's offense. Nothing wrong w/slot receivers, but Harbaugh loves his two big WR's. With likely Crabtree gone in 2015, that creates a big hole. So think it'd be better to grab a top CB first, then choose from among Matthews, Adams, Latimer. TB can get a speed guy later...maybe Ellington. If Baalke does go smaller WR early, then who replaces Crabtree?

I see and understand your logic. I don't think it is a foregone conclusion Crabs will be gone. They will weigh free agent market and 2015 draft market to determine if he is worth a few more millions than they are willing to spend. Regardless, I see your point. I'm really high on Latimer and can see him being a target in the first. He has natural hands and jump ball experience. I like Adams in the 2nd and even compare him strongly in my rankings to Crabtree.

I question the decision to move up for a cb in the first. I don't see the potential for any of them to displace Brock as a #1 and even Gilbert wouldn't be guaranteed #2. Maybe Fuller because he is better in the slot. I think 2nd and 3rd is where to get a db for the value like a Baptiste, Desir or Roberson. They need more development but what is expected out of a 2nd or 3rd.

None of those 3cb will be there in the 3rd.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Don't like this mock. DL is the 2nd deepest position on the team and no more than a single developmental prospect should be drafted imo.

I would not move up for Cooks nor would I take any WR in the 1st unless that wr is Watkins.

I'm totally cool with you not liking my mock. I disagree with your premise. A late 3rd or 4 on DL does not seem out of the question when you are thinking about next year and going forward. Odds are j smith won't play, Ray Mac is getting older and injury probe, Dorsey and Dobbs out of contract and Dial and Tank are unknowns. Who or what positions would you take in that range?

Originally posted by gored49:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Don't like this mock. DL is the 2nd deepest position on the team and no more than a single developmental prospect should be drafted imo.

I would not move up for Cooks nor would I take any WR in the 1st unless that wr is Watkins.

I'm totally cool with you not liking my mock. I disagree with your premise. A late 3rd or 4 on DL does not seem out of the question when you are thinking about next year and going forward. Odds are j smith won't play, Ray Mac is getting older and injury probe, Dorsey and Dobbs out of contract, and Dial and Tank are unknowns. Who or what positions would you take in that range?

I think you mean:
- Aldon Smith
- injury "prone"

Originally posted by WINiner:
None of those 3cb will be there in the 3rd.

I said worth it to wait for either of those cbs in round 2 or 3. I think Roberson may make it to the 3rd. It seems like teams are divided on his potential. I am a big fan of his aggressiveness and ability to box receivers out of the play legally.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
I think you mean:
- Aldon Smith
- injury "prone"

I did mean injury prone. Darn cell phone autocorrect strikes again. Thanks for the correction.

I also did mean Justin Smith. I think with his age and his pricey contract it is no guarantee he will be back next year - either by his choice or the teams (less likely the teams though). I also question if even Gore would be back with his contract but I know that would probably start a fire here. I love both Gore and the Cowboy on this team but that is over $10 million next year and that could mean the difference in resigning Crabtree (or someone else) next season.

I feel this draft has Sammy Watkins, and then a whole bunch of "good" WR's after that. I don't see a need to trade up into the middle of round one. Just wait at 30. There are plenty of good WR's in this draft.

If we are going to make a splash, it better be for Watkins. Go big, or go home.

I would not be happy with this haul. Secondary was, is, and will continue to be our Achilles heel if we don't address it in the draft this year. Trading up for Gilbert, Dennard , Fuller or Verrett makes more sense than cooks. How many three WR formations do we use anyway? What do we do w Patton? In a deep WR draft, I would go secondary first aNd WR second.