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May 5, 2014 at 1:52 PM
- NickSh49
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I'm am very OK with this.
May 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM
- HarboutTHAT
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This draft is about as exciting as mobile home bingo...
May 5, 2014 at 2:07 PM
- JamesGatz83
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I like Cooks a lot, but is he really worth going up to get at #17 when there will be a ton of quality receivers around at #30? I'd be just as happy taking Latimer, Robinson, Benjamin, or Adams and holding onto the extra picks for the purpose of improving depth elsewhere.
I understand we have a surplus of picks and not many available roster spots, but I don't believe in moving up just for the sake of moving up. If we're going to move up, I think it should be all the way up for Evans. Otherwise we should just sit tight and take the best available WR or CB at #30.
I understand we have a surplus of picks and not many available roster spots, but I don't believe in moving up just for the sake of moving up. If we're going to move up, I think it should be all the way up for Evans. Otherwise we should just sit tight and take the best available WR or CB at #30.
May 5, 2014 at 2:11 PM
- pwillis52beasty
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Like the first two picks. After that it's kind of meh. I'd rather not give up a second and a fourth to move up in first round like that. Too much to give up in a draft that is loaded in the second round. I'd rather offer a third and maybe a conditional pick. If that's not good enough for the Ravens, then f**k em and just stay where were at.
May 5, 2014 at 2:12 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
I like Cooks a lot, but is he really worth going up to get at #17 when there will be a ton of quality receivers around at #30? I'd be just as happy taking Latimer, Robinson, Benjamin, or Adams and holding onto the extra picks for the purpose of improving depth elsewhere.
I understand we have a surplus of picks and not many available roster spots, but I don't believe in moving up just for the sake of moving up. If we're going to move up, I think it should be all the way up for Evans. Otherwise we should just sit tight and take the best available WR or CB at #30.
I've been back and forth on Cooks but in my view, yes he is. If the 49ers are in win now mode, they need the most polished guy they can get. They can't get Watkins, so I would say Cooks is the next best choice for what they need. Terrific route runner, terrific hands, pretty much all the knocks on him have nothing to do with the basic facets of being a receiver. He's a guy I could see coming in right away and making a major impact compared to guys like Latimer and Benjamin who are talented but very raw and someone like Robinson who brings nothing to the table that Crabtree, Boldin and Patton don't already bring.
They need to add speed and explosiveness on offense, Cooks does that and he's shown that he has the work ethic to improve whatever he needs to in order to become an impact receiver in the NFL.
May 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by sfout:
Each pick is accompanied by the point value potentially associated with it as it has been reported that the 9ers FO POSSIBLY based their current value chart off of the one presented at the sports analytics conference. The second value is the widely accepted trade value chart we're accustomed to seeing
Round 1, Pick 17 (17: 254.0 | 950 points) – Traded 30th (205.8 | 620 points), 61st and 129th picks to get the 17th selection and select.............
I like that you actually looked at trade value but I don't expect the 49ers to give up a 2nd rounder to move up. Giving up Tennessee's 3rd plus a late 4th is enough to get them within range. While the Jimmy Johnson value chart still applies, teams have tended to follow it somewhat loosely. In this draft, considering how deep the middle rounds are, I think you'll see teams willing to compromise in the 1st round to pick up extra picks in latter rounds. I don't think the 49ers need to give up their 2nd rounder to move up to picks 17-20.
In a draft that is top-heavy with little depth in the middle, that might be true but I think come Thursday you'll see teams taking lower points in return to be able to add extra picks.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on May 5, 2014 at 2:17 PM ]
May 5, 2014 at 2:29 PM
- sfout
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Sad nobody sad anything about the random photos I found
Yea back 3/5s of this draft is mehh but it is because we seriously have 3-5 "open" spots on our roster. Cooks, Desir, Mewhort would be players with the "guaranteed" final 53 attached their name. After that is all about competition.
Mewhort would bump Snyder or one of the fringe players from the roster. He's still compete against Martin, even Marquardt.
Thomas is the only QB that our OCD coach has been physically seen with besides those at the "Local" pro day IIRC
Exum is versatile enough that he is worth a look, he'd compete against Craig Dahl, maybe provide enough reason to send Ventrone off the roster.
From this point is basically camp fodder.
Storm would be the the 5th RB - 6th if you can't Miller as a back. We'd have to trade Hunter or James for him to make the final 53. He's probably on the PS though.
Gator would be the SAK competition against Carrier but especially for the more traditional TE Celek.
Xavius Boyd is basically taken to give us rights on a player to mold after Skuta who could play both inside and outside.
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To be very clear this isn't want I want to happen. It is what I think happens in regards to players.
I do think that we don't give up the 2nd but perhaps the Titans 3rd, our 4th, plus a player -- perhaps LMJ to the Ravens But again they aren't the team that I actually think we make a trade with. I'll reveal that if I do another mock or on draft night before that team goes on the clock o:
Yea back 3/5s of this draft is mehh but it is because we seriously have 3-5 "open" spots on our roster. Cooks, Desir, Mewhort would be players with the "guaranteed" final 53 attached their name. After that is all about competition.
Mewhort would bump Snyder or one of the fringe players from the roster. He's still compete against Martin, even Marquardt.
Thomas is the only QB that our OCD coach has been physically seen with besides those at the "Local" pro day IIRC
Exum is versatile enough that he is worth a look, he'd compete against Craig Dahl, maybe provide enough reason to send Ventrone off the roster.
From this point is basically camp fodder.
Storm would be the the 5th RB - 6th if you can't Miller as a back. We'd have to trade Hunter or James for him to make the final 53. He's probably on the PS though.
Gator would be the SAK competition against Carrier but especially for the more traditional TE Celek.
Xavius Boyd is basically taken to give us rights on a player to mold after Skuta who could play both inside and outside.
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To be very clear this isn't want I want to happen. It is what I think happens in regards to players.
I do think that we don't give up the 2nd but perhaps the Titans 3rd, our 4th, plus a player -- perhaps LMJ to the Ravens But again they aren't the team that I actually think we make a trade with. I'll reveal that if I do another mock or on draft night before that team goes on the clock o:
[ Edited by sfout on May 5, 2014 at 2:30 PM ]
May 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM
- NickSh49
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Originally posted by sfout:
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May 5, 2014 at 2:36 PM
- m_brockalexander
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Logan Thomas at the end of the 3rd round. Oh, hell no! If any QB was available at that spot I would take, it's Aaron Murray. Rest of the draft is OK. Wouldn't trade our 94th pick for future considerations either.
May 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM
- GorefullBore
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Originally posted by m_brockalexander:Logan Thomas at the end of the 3rd round. Oh, hell no! If any QB was available at that spot I would take, it's Aaron Murray. Rest of the draft is OK. Wouldn't trade our 94th pick for future considerations either.
Yeah, that's probably a round or two high for Thomas otherwise I'd be good with this.
May 5, 2014 at 2:51 PM
- WINiner
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Giving to much for Cooks
May 5, 2014 at 3:00 PM
- KyleShanahan
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Very well thought out.
I like Brandin Cooks. I just like Beckham more
I like Brandin Cooks. I just like Beckham more
May 5, 2014 at 3:07 PM
- DeUh
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Originally posted by sfout:
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May 5, 2014 at 3:30 PM
- sfout
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Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by sfout:
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Originally posted by DeUh:
Originally posted by sfout:
Sad nobody sad anything about the random photos I found
Thank you thank you!
Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Logan Thomas at the end of the 3rd round. Oh, hell no! If any QB was available at that spot I would take, it's Aaron Murray. Rest of the draft is OK. Wouldn't trade our 94th pick for future considerations either.
Yeah, that's probably a round or two high for Thomas otherwise I'd be good with this.
I agree. I think he is a viable target at 129 but my thought was why not just get the ONE qb we know Harbaugh has spent time with with an "extra" pick rather than wait.
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
Very well thought out.
I like Brandin Cooks. I just like Beckham more
I think we get Beckham in all seriousness. Just wasn't going to put it in a mock yet.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Giving to much for Cooks
Possibly but did you see my reasoning? It fits the MO of our use of picks. I think could end moving up higher with the use of a pick from next year but I just don't see Baalke going into next year's picks.
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