If we drop back out of rd 1 a total of 12 slots we will want more than a 4th rd pick. That move would probably garner a 2nd rd pick on 2015.
we moved back 6 slots from early rd 2 last year and got a 3rd rd pick. This is a drop back twice as far and starting in the 1st rd. Minimum two 3rd rd picks.
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Apr 14, 2014 at 7:48 PM
- MC9BEAT
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Apr 14, 2014 at 7:54 PM
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Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
If we drop back out of rd 1 a total of 12 slots we will want more than a 4th rd pick. That move would probably garner a 2nd rd pick on 2015.
we moved back 6 slots from early rd 2 last year and got a 3rd rd pick. This is a drop back twice as far and starting in the 1st rd. Minimum two 3rd rd picks.
i admit, im not very good with draft slot value charts or anything like that, and typically they dont hold up anyways. I went for a trade that could potentially be realistic, without over valuing the pick. It certainly could be argued that i undervalued our pick in the trade.
Apr 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM
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Originally posted by IdahoNiner:It happens. I like the mock.
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
If we drop back out of rd 1 a total of 12 slots we will want more than a 4th rd pick. That move would probably garner a 2nd rd pick on 2015.
we moved back 6 slots from early rd 2 last year and got a 3rd rd pick. This is a drop back twice as far and starting in the 1st rd. Minimum two 3rd rd picks.
i admit, im not very good with draft slot value charts or anything like that, and typically they dont hold up anyways. I went for a trade that could potentially be realistic, without over valuing the pick. It certainly could be argued that i undervalued our pick in the trade.
Baalke is very good at getting value in trades, he usually gets the better end of it. Last year we moved back 6 slots in rd 2 and gained a 3rd rd pick. Then we moved back up 4 slots later in rd 2 and payed a 6th rd pick. If we move back from rd 1 he will get us value for the move.
Apr 14, 2014 at 8:23 PM
- ElephantHaley
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not a fan dude. I like Deone Buchanon and maybe Adams but the rest is Q?
Apr 14, 2014 at 8:29 PM
- KyleShanahan
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I Like it.
I am certain we draft Desir next month. I'm literally willing to bet $100.00. 3 to 1 odds. Any takers? He just has Baalke written all over him.
I am certain we draft Desir next month. I'm literally willing to bet $100.00. 3 to 1 odds. Any takers? He just has Baalke written all over him.
Apr 14, 2014 at 9:56 PM
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Apr 14, 2014 at 11:49 PM
- GorefullBore
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With the character issues of late do we really want Roby around Cully and Aldon?
Apr 15, 2014 at 4:37 AM
- CWin4949
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I suck at mock drafts and I don't like to be negative to people but this mock is very under whelming, it would continue this pattern of off season failures IMO.
Apr 15, 2014 at 7:29 AM
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I think based on the talk of teams not drafting QB's high in the 1st, we might be able to get some real good value from the qb needy teams! I would have liked a pass rusher in the 2nd maybe in Bucannon's spot? Also like you said I highly doubt Garoppolo will be there in the 3rd, if so then we should grab him... maybe grab another WR in the 3rd (instead of a QB)?
I like all the players you named and a trade down scenario seems to make sense
I like all the players you named and a trade down scenario seems to make sense
Apr 15, 2014 at 8:13 AM
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I'd hope Baalke would get someone other than Roby...he's been inconsistent and he has short arms. I'd take Verrett over Roby...JV's short, but is a real baller, something I don't see as much in Roby. Other options would be some longer-armed CB's like Breeland (whom Baalke likes a lot) or Dontae Johnson. #42 could also be a good spot to grab Jordan Matthews, if he's the WR they like more than Adams.
I like Desir and Bucannon. Garappolo would be a good pick, but he's probably gone by then. I'm thinking Harbaugh likes Logan Thomas.
Never heard of Dozier...he might be good, but your statement about him replacing Iupati seems odd given Harbaugh has Looney, Seymour and Martin.
Same deal w/C...Baalke might draft a guy who has experience at both C & OG, but likely for competition/depth. I'll be amazed if Kilgore's not our starting C.
I like Preston Brown. I see he's one of the guys visiting, too.
Saunders is really small. Robert Herron would be a better option, although he's probably an earlier pick. He's a lot more stout, yet is very quick.
I like Desir and Bucannon. Garappolo would be a good pick, but he's probably gone by then. I'm thinking Harbaugh likes Logan Thomas.
Never heard of Dozier...he might be good, but your statement about him replacing Iupati seems odd given Harbaugh has Looney, Seymour and Martin.
Same deal w/C...Baalke might draft a guy who has experience at both C & OG, but likely for competition/depth. I'll be amazed if Kilgore's not our starting C.
I like Preston Brown. I see he's one of the guys visiting, too.
Saunders is really small. Robert Herron would be a better option, although he's probably an earlier pick. He's a lot more stout, yet is very quick.
Apr 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Adams, Desir, Dozier, Garoppolo, and Swanson are good picks.
Trading back, Bucannon, Saunders (for OUR scheme?), Preston Brown (too early for him) are not too pleasing.
... and I
the Ben Gardner selection, but really don't think he falls beyond the 5th.
Trading back, Bucannon, Saunders (for OUR scheme?), Preston Brown (too early for him) are not too pleasing.
... and I
the Ben Gardner selection, but really don't think he falls beyond the 5th.
Apr 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
I'd hope Baalke would get someone other than Roby...he's been inconsistent and he has short arms. I'd take Verrett over Roby...JV's short, but is a real baller, something I don't see as much in Roby. Other options would be some longer-armed CB's like Breeland (whom Baalke likes a lot) or Dontae Johnson. #42 could also be a good spot to grab Jordan Matthews, if he's the WR they like more than Adams.
I like Desir and Bucannon. Garappolo would be a good pick, but he's probably gone by then. I'm thinking Harbaugh likes Logan Thomas.
Never heard of Dozier...he might be good, but your statement about him replacing Iupati seems odd given Harbaugh has Looney, Seymour and Martin.
Same deal w/C...Baalke might draft a guy who has experience at both C & OG, but likely for competition/depth. I'll be amazed if Kilgore's not our starting C.
I like Preston Brown. I see he's one of the guys visiting, too.
Saunders is really small. Robert Herron would be a better option, although he's probably an earlier pick. He's a lot more stout, yet is very quick.
I would take Dozier as Iupati's replacement over all those guys you listed. Like i said, i love the kid, and think he has first round talent. He has risen from obscurity and the unknown, and elevated himself into the mid rounds of the draft. If you dont know who he is, you soon will. I think he will be a pro bowl caliber G at the next level.
As for Herron, Im just not a fan. Its as simple as that. I watched him play quite a bit, and i think he is mostly hype personally. I wont go any further than that here, but my opinion of him are documented in other threads.
Apr 15, 2014 at 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Adams, Desir, Dozier, Garoppolo, and Swanson are good picks.
Trading back, Bucannon, Saunders (for OUR scheme?), Preston Brown (too early for him) are not too pleasing.
... and Ithe Ben Gardner selection, but really don't think he falls beyond the 5th.
Thats a good posibility after his pro day, but i still think for us, 7th round is about right. He would be a pretty big project in our system. I dont think i would spend a 5th on him at this point. If he fell to the last round he would be worth snagging.
Apr 15, 2014 at 9:54 AM
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roby 1st after whats going on with aldon, culliver, etc.? no thanks man cant have anymore knuckleheads on this team.
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