Interesting. Not sure about Kelvin Benjamin. I like Latimer and Coleman as big bodied receivers available in the 3rd round. Nice Draft.
Why does everybody think we need a red zone upgrade?
Anquan Boldin is heading to the hall of fame and has been a red zone stud his whole career. He was the same against us in the Superbowl.
Michael Crabtree is a great receiver and is tough in the red zone.
Vernon Davis is a major red zone threat. How many TE's have more TD's than Davis the last few years?
Who would you take of the field so we could bring in a red zone upgrade?
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Apr 3, 2014 at 9:49 AM
- MC9BEAT
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Apr 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM
- Ohio49ersfan
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I'm a huge Kelvin Benjamin fan so I like the mock.
Apr 3, 2014 at 12:02 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Interesting. Not sure about Kelvin Benjamin. I like Latimer and Coleman as big bodied receivers available in the 3rd round. Nice Draft.
Why does everybody think we need a red zone upgrade?
Anquan Boldin is heading to the hall of fame and has been a red zone stud his whole career. He was the same against us in the Superbowl.
Michael Crabtree is a great receiver and is tough in the red zone.
Vernon Davis is a major red zone threat. How many TE's have more TD's than Davis the last few years?
Who would you take of the field so we could bring in a red zone upgrade?
Not a huge fan of Benjamin too many drops and reminds me of a TE not a WR. Niners were ranked 15th in the league in red zone score (TD only), so middle of the pack. I think fans just saw too many games where we kicked a field goal or missed out on a TD in a clutch moment. It would be nice to throw a fad to a big red zone target or have a confident feeling that we are gonna score a TD.
Apr 3, 2014 at 12:53 PM
- pfizz
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Horrible first pick. Not sure if youre aware but we already have a receiver like him on the roster - Jon Baldwin. Dont need another 1st round bust.
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:04 PM
- Quest4six
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Originally posted by pfizz:
Horrible first pick. Not sure if youre aware but we already have a receiver like him on the roster - Jon Baldwin. Dont need another 1st round bust.
I almost posted the exact same thing word for word.
I would honestly rather have Martavis Bryant than Kelvin Benjamin
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:19 PM
- pfizz
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Would easily take MB over KB especially since he can be had a little later.
[ Edited by pfizz on Apr 3, 2014 at 1:20 PM ]
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:19 PM
- kronik
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Alot of bad research, sorry
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:30 PM
- MC9BEAT
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Interesting. Not sure about Kelvin Benjamin. I like Latimer and Coleman as big bodied receivers available in the 3rd round. Nice Draft.
Why does everybody think we need a red zone upgrade?
Anquan Boldin is heading to the hall of fame and has been a red zone stud his whole career. He was the same against us in the Superbowl.
Michael Crabtree is a great receiver and is tough in the red zone.
Vernon Davis is a major red zone threat. How many TE's have more TD's than Davis the last few years?
Who would you take of the field so we could bring in a red zone upgrade?
Not a huge fan of Benjamin too many drops and reminds me of a TE not a WR. Niners were ranked 15th in the league in red zone score (TD only), so middle of the pack. I think fans just saw too many games where we kicked a field goal or missed out on a TD in a clutch moment. It would be nice to throw a fad to a big red zone target or have a confident feeling that we are gonna score a TD.
Has nothing to do with the talent of our receivers. This is the 49ers philosophy. If we are behind we go for the TD but if we can take the lead with a FG or have the lead we play conservative, protect the FG attempt and rely on our defense. If we can run it in great or maybe a safe pass play great but we don't really attack unless we have to.
Last years failed attempt on the fade had nothing to do with receiver height. The pass shouldn't have been thrown. We had an open receiver on the other side. Then the pass was underthrown. A 7' receiver wouldn't have made a difference. Bad decision and then bad throw by the QB.
Apr 3, 2014 at 2:07 PM
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Originally posted by MC9BEAT:Probably b/c the team seems to stall out in the redzone and settle for fg's. Boldin, Crabs and VD aren't out jumping ppl on a consistent basis.
Interesting. Not sure about Kelvin Benjamin. I like Latimer and Coleman as big bodied receivers available in the 3rd round. Nice Draft.
Why does everybody think we need a red zone upgrade?
Anquan Boldin is heading to the hall of fame and has been a red zone stud his whole career. He was the same against us in the Superbowl.
Michael Crabtree is a great receiver and is tough in the red zone.
Vernon Davis is a major red zone threat. How many TE's have more TD's than Davis the last few years?
Who would you take of the field so we could bring in a red zone upgrade?
Apr 3, 2014 at 2:11 PM
- 52isabeast
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Originally posted by lamontb:Probably b/c the team seems to stall out in the redzone and settle for fg's. Boldin, Crabs and VD aren't out jumping ppl on a consistent basis.
And our last 2 seasons have ended with passes to Crabtree in the end zone. I think it's a big area of need for 14/15 season.
Apr 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM
- pfizz
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jon baldwin is 6'4 and has a higher vertical than kelvin benjamin by 10 inches. all the same flaws too except no weight issues like KB has. explain to me again what kelvin "inevitable bust" benjamin would provide that we dont already have?
the lack of redzone success is from scheme and philosophy and not from the lack of "out jumping" opponents. Not to mention that jump ball/fade pass is one of Kap worst passes.blame harbaugh and roman.
the lack of redzone success is from scheme and philosophy and not from the lack of "out jumping" opponents. Not to mention that jump ball/fade pass is one of Kap worst passes.blame harbaugh and roman.
[ Edited by pfizz on Apr 3, 2014 at 2:34 PM ]
Apr 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM
- captain_planet
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Something I've seen in almost every mock draft in this forum has been pestering me.
We WILL NOT take two CBs with our first two picks.
We WILL NOT take two WRs with our first two picks.
We WILL NOT take two CBs within our first three picks.
We WILL NOT take two WRs within our first three picks.
We have other needs (interior line, middle linebacker, safety) that also must be addressed.
But what about 2010? You say. We took two offensive linemen with our first two picks!
Shush. That was an exception based on an extreme need, and tackle and guard are two different positions.
Baalke will spread our first 3-5 picks to cover our various needs before he repeats a position.
I guarantee it.
We WILL NOT take two CBs with our first two picks.
We WILL NOT take two WRs with our first two picks.
We WILL NOT take two CBs within our first three picks.
We WILL NOT take two WRs within our first three picks.
We have other needs (interior line, middle linebacker, safety) that also must be addressed.
But what about 2010? You say. We took two offensive linemen with our first two picks!
Shush. That was an exception based on an extreme need, and tackle and guard are two different positions.
Baalke will spread our first 3-5 picks to cover our various needs before he repeats a position.
I guarantee it.
Apr 3, 2014 at 3:16 PM
- KyleShanahan
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Living in Utah I have watched Keith McGill a lot. He is not a 2nd round talent. The dude looks awesome physically, and its easy to be enamored over his measurables. But he is not a great FB player.
Apr 3, 2014 at 3:57 PM
- MC9BEAT
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by MC9BEAT:Probably b/c the team seems to stall out in the redzone and settle for fg's. Boldin, Crabs and VD aren't out jumping ppl on a consistent basis.
Interesting. Not sure about Kelvin Benjamin. I like Latimer and Coleman as big bodied receivers available in the 3rd round. Nice Draft.
Why does everybody think we need a red zone upgrade?
Anquan Boldin is heading to the hall of fame and has been a red zone stud his whole career. He was the same against us in the Superbowl.
Michael Crabtree is a great receiver and is tough in the red zone.
Vernon Davis is a major red zone threat. How many TE's have more TD's than Davis the last few years?
Who would you take of the field so we could bring in a red zone upgrade?
It's rare in the nfl when a player out jumps somebody for the ball in the end zone. Most fade pattern td's have nothing to do with height and evreything to do with placement of the ball. The pass Kap threw was underthrown by 3 feet and shouldn't have been thrown anyway. A fade pattern from about the 18 yard line to a receiver covered step for step - not a good idea. We had a wide open receiver on the other side of the field.
Stalling in the red zone is about offensive philosophy not the lack of leapers in the receiving core.