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pwillis52beasty · 2014-02-28T21:12:28-08:00

I think the 49ers can draft a corner a little later in the draft as I don't feel like there is a huge fall off in the talent. Culliver was a third round pick, Brock was undrafted, and Brown was a 5th round pick. We have somewhat of a recent history of being able to plug in guys later in the draft or quality free agents into our secondary and being successful. I think we get better bang for our buck with guys like Mcgill in the third and Huff in the fifth, as opposed to someone like Roby or Fuller with our first round pick. I wouldn't be mad if we drafted Verrett with our first pick, but I'd rather have guys like Cooks and Beckham at receiver or even Tuitt and Hageman at defensive end if they are there. 30 WR BRANDIN COOKS OREGON STATE 5'10 190 4.33 40- Quick as s**t and can take the top off the defense. Very productive college career. We're lucky if he's even still on the board. Trade Alert- 49ers trade picks 56,94, and RB Lamichael James to the Browns for pick 35. Browns have a history of questionable trades and need a running back. 35 DE STEPHON TUITT NOTRE DAME 6'5 305 4.9 40- Slips a little in the draft because of his foot injury. We jump at the chance of trading up for him after already getting the receiver that we really need in this offense. Dude is a straight beast with good pass rushing ability. Can play anywhere along the line and has the talent to become a dominant 3-4 end. Him and Carradine would be a nightmare for defenses and both serve as the future replacements for Smith and Mcdonald. 61 WR DONTE MONCRIEF MISSISSIPPI 6'2 220 4.40 40- Was a 3rd/4th round projection, but now finds himself in the second round with a great combine. Future replacement to Boldin. Big fast guy to stretch the field. 77 CB/S KEITH MCGILL UTAH 6'3 211 4.51 40- Big athletic Sherman like corner who has experience at safety. Could play corner and then possible replacement for Whitner down the line. 125 C BRYAN STORK FSU 6'4 315- Competes with Kilgore for the starting job 158 CB/S MARQUESTION HUFF WYOMING 5'11 196 4.49 40- Very rangy safety that can also play corner. Another guy who could possibly replace Whitner down the line or play free safety and allow Eric Reid to bump over. 189 RB DRI ARCHER KENT STATE 5'8 175 4.26 40- We all know this dude. Electrifying. Now if we could just figure out how to use him. We don't know how to use James, would we know how to use Archer? Probably not..LOL 219 ILB KEVIN PIERRE-LOUIS BOSTON COLLEGE 6'0 232 4.51 40- Athletic freak who blew it up at the combine. Possibly compete with Wilhoite and Moody to fill in until Bowman comes back. Probably a special teamer though. 220 QB LOGAN THOMAS VIRGINIA TECH 6'6 248 4.61 40- Some team probably drafts him higher just because of the potential talent, but still a projected 7th/undrafted by some. Harbuagh might be able to do something with him 222 TE A.C. LEONARD TENNESSEE STATE 6'2 250 4.50 40- Highly athletic. Try and use in a Delanie Walker type role.

Mar 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM

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pwillis52beasty
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Originally posted by jrouter4949:
I can not find one bad thing about this draft,I love it,now make it a reallity...I HOPE Baalke is reading this and take some notes.

Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Dri archer,I would use him as a PR/KR also as a slot wr,and some fly sweeps as well as on some screen plays to get him out in space,this guy has blinding speed and quickness.Yes surely Roman can at least figure out a way to use this small but fast swiss-knife.

Thanks. Yeah you would think we'd be able to figure out how to use someone with that kind of speed and quickness. He would replace Lamichael James. I really think he's going to end up getting drafted higher though then the 6th round where I have him, but he remains as a 7th/undrafted free agent projection by different sites. This is probably because his lack of size, not a true set position, and playing against lesser competition.

Mar 1, 2014 at 9:40 AM

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I really like your ideas. And, I like the draft. I think your trading Lamichael James for nothing the picks 56, and 94 are the trade with Lamichael James thrown in. I'm not sure, but with all the RB I think Hunter mite loss his spot so Maybe they could trade Hunter for a second round pick or Hunter and pick 94. Lamichael James just doesn't have much trade valve because they do not play him. Get him in on 3rd down and use him in the passing game. If they can make a nice trade for James I'm all for it. It will suck because I think they will be trading a second round player for a 6th round pick. With Hunter he has more Valve to the 49er and all the other teams So maybe they could get a second round pick for him?? they would still have Gore and Lattimore as there first and second RB.

Mar 1, 2014 at 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by jrouter4949:
I can not find one bad thing about this draft,I love it,now make it a reallity...I HOPE Baalke is reading this and take some notes.

You don't need to quote the whole post especially if it is the opening post...thx

Mar 1, 2014 at 10:15 AM

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I absolutely love this draft.

Mar 1, 2014 at 10:26 AM

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I would be pretty happy with this overall, think its a little too good to be true, don't see Cooks being around when the 49ers pick or Moncrief being that far back in the second round but if they could walk out with this collection of talent, I would not be mad at all.

Mar 1, 2014 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I absolutely love this draft.

Me too haha

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I would be pretty happy with this overall, think its a little too good to be true, don't see Cooks being around when the 49ers pick or Moncrief being that far back in the second round but if they could walk out with this collection of talent, I would not be mad at all.

Yeah I'm thinking Cooks may go as high as 15. There are probably 8 receivers in the discussion to be first round picks. Unfortunately I think Cooks might be the third receiver off the board, but I'm hoping in this scenario that wide receiver needy teams fall in love with someone else. I'd take Beckham too though. Moncrief could definitely go earlier, but he was a third/fourth round projection prior to the combine. It will be interesting to see how high he rises.

Mar 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM

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I don't think we would address WR twice in the first three picks, when the secondary is the weak link of the team. I don't see how Cooks/Moncreif would see much playing time, especially if we resign Boldin. Patton should be an adequate slot receiver in 2014, and although Cooks is a speed demon, the 49ers have never had much use for one in our power-based system.

Id rather see us move up in the first round to grab Calvin Pryor or Justin Gilbert, and then begin to add WR depth in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. I think TJE and Dorsey, along with Carradine, should give us D-line depth for the next few seasons.

The rest of the draft is awesome.

Mar 1, 2014 at 1:13 PM

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Yes.This would be the ideal draft.

[ Edited by 9ertillidie on Mar 1, 2014 at 1:14 PM ]

Mar 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM

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Originally posted by theninermaniac:
I don't think we would address WR twice in the first three picks, when the secondary is the weak link of the team. I don't see how Cooks/Moncreif would see much playing time, especially if we resign Boldin. Patton should be an adequate slot receiver in 2014, and although Cooks is a speed demon, the 49ers have never had much use for one in our power-based system.

Id rather see us move up in the first round to grab Calvin Pryor or Justin Gilbert, and then begin to add WR depth in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. I think TJE and Dorsey, along with Carradine, should give us D-line depth for the next few seasons.

The rest of the draft is awesome.

Moncrief would be given the time to develop behind Anquan Boldin. 49ers need a quick shifty guy like Cooks to beat Seattle. We must learn to adapt. Our power based system and core of possession receivers wasn't the greatest formula against Seattle. We need to have variety.

Truthfully, I think Gilbert is the only DB worth trading far up for. I wouldn't trade up for Pryor unless it was only a few picks up. And Jerod Eddie is nothing special. He's ok at best for depth. The game is won in the trenches. If you have a dominat pass rush and run defense, good luck to the opposing offense. Like I said, we have a history of finding solid corners and secondary players later in the draft and through free agency.

Mar 1, 2014 at 3:50 PM

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Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Moncrief would be given the time to develop behind Anquan Boldin. 49ers need a quick shifty guy like Cooks to beat Seattle. We must learn to adapt. Our power based system and core of possession receivers wasn't the greatest formula against Seattle. We need to have variety.

Truthfully, I think Gilbert is the only DB worth trading far up for. I wouldn't trade up for Pryor unless it was only a few picks up. And Jerod Eddie is nothing special. He's ok at best for depth. The game is won in the trenches. If you have a dominat pass rush and run defense, good luck to the opposing offense. Like I said, we have a history of finding solid corners and secondary players later in the draft and through free agency.

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Mar 1, 2014 at 3:57 PM

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Good mock...but I'd take Matthews over Moncrief. Compare their bodies of work, speed and strength. Given there are 3 other guys on the roster who could play C, Stork seems like kind of a wasted pick. I don't see Baalke giving up that much to get Tuitt...he could get other DL without doing that. I can see TB drafting Skov for depth at ILB. Also believe he'd consider Lesir over McGill. WRT LMJ, Baalke said he's not trading him.

Mar 1, 2014 at 4:08 PM

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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Good mock...but I'd take Matthews over Moncrief. Compare their bodies of work, speed and strength. Given there are 3 other guys on the roster who could play C, Stork seems like kind of a wasted pick. I don't see Baalke giving up that much to get Tuitt...he could get other DL without doing that. I can see TB drafting Skov for depth at ILB. Also believe he'd consider Lesir over McGill. WRT LMJ, Baalke said he's not trading him.

And you believe it? Think about what would happen If he stated that we want to trade him

As for your Matthews-love: you are almost as obsessive as me with my "no Bryant early"-attitude

Mar 1, 2014 at 4:20 PM

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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Good mock...but I'd take Matthews over Moncrief. Compare their bodies of work, speed and strength. Given there are 3 other guys on the roster who could play C, Stork seems like kind of a wasted pick. I don't see Baalke giving up that much to get Tuitt...he could get other DL without doing that. I can see TB drafting Skov for depth at ILB. Also believe he'd consider Lesir over McGill. WRT LMJ, Baalke said he's not trading him.

Matthews is going to go quite a bit higher than Moncrief in all likelihood. I felt like we should draft a true center in there somewhere. Tuitt is a beast. He definitely would be worth that trade, if we are fortunate enough to have the Browns accept a trade like that.

Mar 1, 2014 at 4:38 PM

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A trade with the VERY doo doo Browns this whole JH fiasco ensued. Yeah the likelihood of that happening

Mar 1, 2014 at 5:00 PM

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Originally posted by Negrodamus:
A trade with the VERY doo doo Browns this whole JH fiasco ensued. Yeah the likelihood of that happening

It's the Browns. Don't count them out like that