The biggest issue is that none of the first 6 picks will likely be there where you're picking them. HHCD is the top safety in the draft and a top 20-25 player by most accounts; he's just not likely to fall that far. Tuitt is viewed as a late 1st rounder/early 2nd guy and I don't see all of those three WRs getting out of the 2nd round (especially Landry). Maybe Bryant and Moncrief last to the mid-3rd, but to the end of the 3rd? Just not likely. The only guy who might be there when you picked him is Roby, but I'd bet good money that after he runs a sub-4.40 at the combine, he doesn't make it past the mid-2nd.
It would rival the 2011 draft IMO if it turned out this way, but it just doesn't seem realistic.
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Feb 6, 2014 at 11:46 PM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Feb 6, 2014 at 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
The biggest issue is that none of the first 6 picks will likely be there where you're picking them. HHCD is the top safety in the draft and a top 20-25 player by most accounts; he's just not likely to fall that far. Tuitt is viewed as a late 1st rounder/early 2nd guy and I don't see all of those three WRs getting out of the 2nd round (especially Landry). Maybe Bryant and Moncrief last to the mid-3rd, but to the end of the 3rd? Just not likely. The only guy who might be there when you picked him is Roby, but I'd bet good money that after he runs a sub-4.40 at the combine, he doesn't make it past the mid-2nd.
It would rival the 2011 draft IMO if it turned out this way, but it just doesn't seem realistic.
Yea, I agree with you. It's odd that I was able to make these selections using that draft simulator. It just seemed to good to be true so I had to create this mock ;-)
But maybe it's just a nice reminder that with our boat-load of picks and this year's depth, we have a really good chance to build something special and long lasting. Really excited for our off-season this year.
[ Edited by kronik on Feb 6, 2014 at 11:54 PM ]
Feb 7, 2014 at 5:29 AM
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I like the players you selected in the draft but if we let Boldin go we either have to replace him with another vet FA WR or draft one in the 1st round (unless a game ready one magically slips into the 2nd round).
I like Tuitt but I just don't see the need for him right now. Justin will be here 2 more years I think, even if he isn't, we have bigger needs at WR, CB and SS and potentially interior OL depending on what happens with Iupati after 2014 season and maybe at C if the staff doesn't think Kilgore or Looney can step in effectively.
Ray Mac isn't a puppy but he will be around a few more years and we have Tank who will likely be the guy that takes JS's place, aside from that TJE played very well and is young. Again, I like Tuitt, I like him a lot and I agree he fits our system, however, for a team in win now mode, drafting a guy at a position in the 2nd round where he would have to prove himself just to be the #3 or 4 guy (and could very well be the #5 guy considering our staff's love affair with playing vets over young guys behind JS, RM, TJE and Tank) it's just not the direction to go right now, we need guys in the first 2 rounds (at least) that will either start or play a significant role in 2014.
I like Tuitt but I just don't see the need for him right now. Justin will be here 2 more years I think, even if he isn't, we have bigger needs at WR, CB and SS and potentially interior OL depending on what happens with Iupati after 2014 season and maybe at C if the staff doesn't think Kilgore or Looney can step in effectively.
Ray Mac isn't a puppy but he will be around a few more years and we have Tank who will likely be the guy that takes JS's place, aside from that TJE played very well and is young. Again, I like Tuitt, I like him a lot and I agree he fits our system, however, for a team in win now mode, drafting a guy at a position in the 2nd round where he would have to prove himself just to be the #3 or 4 guy (and could very well be the #5 guy considering our staff's love affair with playing vets over young guys behind JS, RM, TJE and Tank) it's just not the direction to go right now, we need guys in the first 2 rounds (at least) that will either start or play a significant role in 2014.
Feb 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM
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I also think that most of these players will be gone before you picked them (particularly Landry), but there is a ton of talent in this draft, and SOMEONE had to be taken by the simulator to let those guys drop to you. We don't KNOW where anyone is going, and this draft would have me pumped. I like the tough choices you made, and I honestly think that a healthy Crabtree, more practice reps for Kap, and a productive camp from Landry could absorb the loss of Boldin.
edit: I'm also in favor of ANYONE named Archer, especially if they are accompanied by Lana
edit: I'm also in favor of ANYONE named Archer, especially if they are accompanied by Lana
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Feb 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM
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I want HaHa Clinton Dix just so I can say HaHa you got picked off by HaHa
Feb 7, 2014 at 9:06 AM
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Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
I want HaHa Clinton Dix just so I can say HaHa you got picked off by HaHa
I feel like saying HaHa, because you made a HaHa about saying HaHa when they get picked off by HaHa.
Feb 7, 2014 at 9:44 AM
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Really like the players and like many here don't think they'll be there.
That said, Crabs fell into our laps and there is always a player of 2 who fall. Just not that many.
That said, Crabs fell into our laps and there is always a player of 2 who fall. Just not that many.
Feb 7, 2014 at 9:46 AM
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
The biggest issue is that none of the first 6 picks will likely be there where you're picking them. HHCD is the top safety in the draft and a top 20-25 player by most accounts; he's just not likely to fall that far. Tuitt is viewed as a late 1st rounder/early 2nd guy and I don't see all of those three WRs getting out of the 2nd round (especially Landry). Maybe Bryant and Moncrief last to the mid-3rd, but to the end of the 3rd? Just not likely. The only guy who might be there when you picked him is Roby, but I'd bet good money that after he runs a sub-4.40 at the combine, he doesn't make it past the mid-2nd.
It would rival the 2011 draft IMO if it turned out this way, but it just doesn't seem realistic.
This pretty much wraps this mock up
Feb 7, 2014 at 9:47 AM
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Its more realistic to project us getting Buchannon from Washington instead of Clinton-Dix at 30.. And hes a stud himself so i'd be happy to have him....
Feb 7, 2014 at 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by WRATHman44:Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:I want HaHa Clinton Dix just so I can say HaHa you got picked off by HaHa
I feel like saying HaHa, because you made a HaHa about saying HaHa when they get picked off by HaHa.
HaHa that'd be funny if HaHa made a joke and everyone said HaHa you're funny HaHa
Feb 7, 2014 at 1:29 PM
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Originally posted by matt49er:
I like the players you selected in the draft but if we let Boldin go we either have to replace him with another vet FA WR or draft one in the 1st round (unless a game ready one magically slips into the 2nd round).
I like Tuitt but I just don't see the need for him right now. Justin will be here 2 more years I think, even if he isn't, we have bigger needs at WR, CB and SS and potentially interior OL depending on what happens with Iupati after 2014 season and maybe at C if the staff doesn't think Kilgore or Looney can step in effectively.
Ray Mac isn't a puppy but he will be around a few more years and we have Tank who will likely be the guy that takes JS's place, aside from that TJE played very well and is young. Again, I like Tuitt, I like him a lot and I agree he fits our system, however, for a team in win now mode, drafting a guy at a position in the 2nd round where he would have to prove himself just to be the #3 or 4 guy (and could very well be the #5 guy considering our staff's love affair with playing vets over young guys behind JS, RM, TJE and Tank) it's just not the direction to go right now, we need guys in the first 2 rounds (at least) that will either start or play a significant role in 2014.
I agree with you about our needs but I got us 2 CB's, 2 safety's, and a center. You might be right about Tuitt. We are pretty deep at DL but I was looking for a difference maker for the next 10 years. No guarantees of course.
As for the WR opposite Crabtree, yea, we might take some lumps early on but I think Moncreif is good enough to ease that transition. Patton & Landry would help as well.
[ Edited by kronik on Feb 7, 2014 at 1:34 PM ]
Feb 7, 2014 at 1:31 PM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
This pretty much wraps this mock up
It's true, it seems unrealistic even to me. I used that draft simulator (except the compensation pick) and was surprised who was available. Anyways, I'm really happy Baalke put us in a good position in the draft this year.
Feb 7, 2014 at 1:36 PM
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Originally posted by KAPforPresident:
Its more realistic to project us getting Buchannon from Washington instead of Clinton-Dix at 30.. And hes a stud himself so i'd be happy to have him....
I like Buchannon but I am unsure about Buchannon's coverage skills. I like Jimmie Ward a little better.
Feb 7, 2014 at 2:02 PM
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Nice. I wouldn't mind getting that draft
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