Timdiz&#039;s Fist Ever Mock

Timdiz's Fist Ever Mock

Timdiz · 2014-02-04T23:19:09-08:00

My first mock ever. Changes will be made in more versions as the draft nears. Some offseason moves: Cut/Let Go - Anquan Boldin(will be too expensive), Tarell Brown, Jonothan Goodwin, Carlos Rogers, Demarcus Dobbs, Jon Baldwin Trade: LaMichael James for a 4th/5th rounder Signings/Resigning: Donte Whither resigned - 3 years (It's easier to replace Boldin with Crabtree back and healthy then it is to replace Whitner with a rookie/free agent) Phil Dawson resigned - 2 years Perrish Cox resigned - 2 years Michael Whilhoite resigned - 2/3 years Chad Henne/Shaun Hill/Kellen Clemens, QB signed - 2 years Danario Alexander, WR signed - 2/3 years The Draft:Kyle Fuller CB, Virginia Tech - 2nd - trade back(pick up a 4th this year and maybe a 2nd/3rd next year) - Has the length (by far, the longest arms in the draft of the CB's - we know who looks for this ) , size, athleticism, and versatility to be a high level corner in the nfl (6'0, 195). From draftchargers.com - "Fuller grades out to an 8.32, or a very good player at the next level. Though he's not a "burner", Fuller has every skill you want in a corner. Most importantly, he doesn't make mistakes. Injuries are certainly a factor, but when he's on the field, from a talent standpoint, he's arguably the best CB in the draft. I'd expect him to go in the 2nd round because of injuries, but whoever gets him, is getting a steal." Donte Moncreif WR, Ole Miss - 2nd - Has the size (6'3 220), speed, toughness, and hands to be a special wide receiver. However, Like Alshon Jeffery coming out of college, Moncrief's route running needs work but he has the potential. From CBS - "Moncrief's thick frame, deceptive speed and smooth route-running make him a nightmare for cornerbacks. He does not possess the explosive moves of Southern Cal's Marqise Lee or Clemson's Sammy Watkins but might be a better player than either of them. He is sudden in his breaks, showing the ability to generate separation even against tight man coverage, and accelerates quickly, often leaving defenders in his dust on double-moves. Moncrief tracks the ball well and generally shows excellent hands (one drop vs. Texas), as well as the body control to make the dazzling grab." I see him moving up the draft boards as we move towards the draft. - "Moncrief had risen as high up as Top 10 on both ESPN draft gurus Mel Kipper Jr. and Todd McShay's draft boards among receivers. ESPN analysis details "he has elite speed, great size a first-second round prospect for sure, easily a Top 50 prospect." Kelcy Quarles DT/DE, South Carolina - 2nd/3rd - Before you go saying that the we already have enough DL depth, lets take a look at we have - Justin/RayMac are obviously solid but age and wear will be catching up to them. Tank Carradine has the potential but he is unproven, has yet to bulk up to hold up inside(one of his weaknesses coming out of college), and is coming off an injury. TJE is solid but at this point, is still very much a rotational player, and Okoye is still a developmental player. What you have with Quarles is a big, strong, athletic player with length who has the potential to be a day one stud in both a 3-4 and 4-3 scheme (which we run). From CBS - "Boasting long-arms, a thick frame (6'4, 295) and a sudden first step, Quarles certainly looks the part of an early round NFL draft pick.When his quickness is contained, Quarles shows impressive core strength to bull rush opponents deep into the backfield (had 10.5 sacks in 2013), as well as an effective over-arm swim move to gain freedom.Quarles plays low, showing good power and technique to absorb double-teams. Quick, strong and tenacious, Quarles projects equally well inside as a 4-3 defensive tackle or outside as a five-technique defensive end. " Lamarcus Joyner FS/CB, Florida St. - 2nd/3rd - Although small (5'8,185), he possess the toughness, elite speed, and instincts to help cover the slot(which is still an issue for us) and make plays as a saftey in certain sub packages. I see him as a more athletic tyrann mathieu type player with slightly less tackling ability(needs to work on wrapping up rather than the shoulder lowering). From CBS - "Aggressive striker who only knows how to play full-speed, showing excellent timing to make plays on the ball. Plays fast with natural acceleration to go from 0 to 60 in a flash, displaying impressive closing burst.Excellent awareness and instincts with quick diagnosis skills as well as the balance, agility and speed to handle coverage duties." Jalen Saunders WR, Oklahoma - 4th - Taking a shot with this one here, but Saunders fits the need perfectly. He's small, like really small (5'9, 165) but before you make a judgement, I implore you to watch his tape. He's got elite speed, quickness, agility, hips, hands, and route running ability to be a very high level slot receiver in the NFL. I still have my doubts about his durability, but the way he plays reminds me of a more athletic Wes Welker. Contrary to popular belief, beating Seattle's DB's does not mean countering with big receivers but rather crafty, quick and most importantly, speedy ones. The only receiver's to have had a real impact against Seattle D have been the likes of T.Y Hiltons and Jarius Wrights of the world (Both of whom are small but are really, really fast). CBS - "Saunders doesn't possess the same route-running diversity of former Sooners receiver Ryan Broyles, but he is a dynamic slot option who demonstrates good awareness versus zone coverage and can also contribute as a return specialist. His overall movement skills make him a difficult player to cover despite his diminutive frame." Tyler Larsen C, Utah State - 4th - trade up - Not the sexiest pick, but the one we need with Goodwin gone. Kilgore, it seems, may never be more than a back up as he would have already won the job at starting center (maybe I'm wrong and he wins it this year but in the meantime, it's better to add competition and depth). Larsen (6'5, 312) needs to work on his strength and consistency but he has athletic ability and technique to be a quality starter.- "Larsen brings so much to the table that NFL teams will like. He has a significant amount of experience playing the position. Little will surprise him when it comes to the center position. Larsen also has great athletic ability and range to play the position in addition to understanding the technical aspects of his position. Larsen needs to get more powerful as he goes to the NFL.." Jeff Matthews QB, Cornell - 5th - trade up - Matthews is far from a Kaepernick clone but he does posses the size (6'4, 230), arm strength, and accuracy to be at least, a decent back up in the NFL. He needs to work on his footwork and mechanics but he does have the intelligence, awareness, and progression skills to have a shot. He reminds of either a Mike Glennon or a poor man's Nick Foles. CBS - "Good height, big hands and a well-built frame to shake off defenders. Very good arm strength and velocity and can make deep throws with ease. Knows how to change arm angles and still deliver lasers. Improved ball placement and overall accuracy despite shaky mechanics.Smart and processes information quickly. Confident and won't play hesitant. Hard worker with strong preparation skills and a team-first attitude. Improved pocked mobility to step up with his eyes downfield." Russel Bodine OG, North Carolina - 5th/6th - With Iupati's contract coming up, we will need some insurance in the case that we are not able to resign him(which is looking more likely). Looney could conceivably be his replacement but it's risky to depend on one guy to step in and be the heir apparent of one Mike Iupati. Like Larsen, Bodine will provide competition, depth, and possibly, a replacement. Though he's a bit undersized and possesses short arms, (6'3,310), Bodine possess the technique, athleticism to mirror and get to the second level, as well as strength to anchor to be a high level pass protector at the next level(something Iupati was pretty average at). He also shows a strong enough punch to be effective in the run game. In terms of physical traits and play style, he kind of reminds me of Marshal Yanda. CBS - "Scouts love his physicality and tenacity, but short arms have made his emergence as an NFL starter slower than hoped. Bodine has more desirable traits and should have an easier path to latching on. He plays with similar grit and surprising athleticism, projecting as a future starter in the NFL." Obviously, there only 8 picks out of 15 but I expect Baalke to do some moving around (up or down) in order to get these players in their projected range. Well there you have it, my first mock ever. I hope you enjoy and I welcome any feedback you guys might have.

Feb 4, 2014 at 11:47 PM

49ers808
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Meh.....Joyner and Larsen won't be there. Changes and next mock please

Feb 4, 2014 at 11:53 PM

Timdiz
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Meh.....Joyner and Larsen won't be there. Changes and next mock please

Yeah maybe not Joyner. Considering we have three 3rd round picks (maybe some 4th's depending on if we trade back or not), I wouldn't be surprised if they make some play for him in the mid-late 2nd (Don't know know if it would be worth it though). Larsen might be there in the late 3rd or early 4th. CBS has him projected in the 4th-5th but I could see him moving up before the draft. Wouldn't be surprised if Baalke traded up for him or any center in general in that range. Anyway, thanks for the input

[ Edited by Timdiz on Feb 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM ]

Feb 5, 2014 at 2:21 AM

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Whitner will be harder to resign than Boldin. Boldin is happy here and may take less money to finish his career here. Whitner is going after his last contract. He will seek the biggest payday possible. Whitner can be replaced with a talented rookie or we can draft a rookie and sign a vet to a 1 yr deal for insurance.

Feb 5, 2014 at 7:07 AM

hofer36
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not sure id trade back for picks in 2015--with a record number of under classman entering this draft 2015 could be watered down

Feb 5, 2014 at 7:45 AM

pwillis52beasty
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Wouldn't be mad. Like most of the picks. We really need to resign Boldin though.

Feb 5, 2014 at 8:31 AM

SFrush
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Screw trading back. Trade up and grab Dennard or Gilbert.

Feb 5, 2014 at 2:12 PM

Timdiz
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Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Whitner will be harder to resign than Boldin. Boldin is happy here and may take less money to finish his career here. Whitner is going after his last contract. He will seek the biggest payday possible. Whitner can be replaced with a talented rookie or we can draft a rookie and sign a vet to a 1 yr deal for insurance.

As much as I want Boldin back, I'm not entirely sure that he'd take a hometown discount. Remember after he won the superbowl with the ravens? he publicly kept saying he wanted to retire there. Instead, he didn't want his contract restructured so they ended up having to trade him. If he comes back for 5-6 mill, sure, I'd love him back but at this point, I'm not so sure he'll take that money.

Feb 5, 2014 at 2:36 PM

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Originally posted by Timdiz:

Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
Whitner will be harder to resign than Boldin. Boldin is happy here and may take less money to finish his career here. Whitner is going after his last contract. He will seek the biggest payday possible. Whitner can be replaced with a talented rookie or we can draft a rookie and sign a vet to a 1 yr deal for insurance.

As much as I want Boldin back, I'm not entirely sure that he'd take a hometown discount. Remember after he won the superbowl with the ravens? he publicly kept saying he wanted to retire there. Instead, he didn't want his contract restructured so they ended up having to trade him. If he comes back for 5-6 mill, sure, I'd love him back but at this point, I'm not so sure he'll take that money.

True. We could lose both. Good thing we have so many picks this year. I do think he is the better possibility. The 49ers can offer him 6mil and frankly he wouldn't get an offer significantly better. It is easier to plug in a defensive player rather than offense. Especially a rookie. If we have to lose 1 I would rather lose Whitner.

This past season with only 1 proven receiver the 49ers were 6-4 to start the season. We finished 6-0 after Crabtree and Patton came back. It was too easy to make us 1 dimensional on offense. Rookie WR's take time to develop. Crabtree took about 3 years. TO took several years. John Taylor took a few years. Even Jerry Rice took a season to get to full swing. His rookie year he had good yards (927) but only 3 TD catches. He then had 11 straight 1k+ seasons and a decade of double digit TD's save 1 when he had 9. His 2nd year 1570 yards and 15TD's and this was Rice.

We can count on a rookie WR to chip in and produce but to help carry the passing attack would be unlikely. Boldin's production would be hard to replace and most of us want to see the 49ers have a better passing attack this season.

We will know more soon. There are many unanswered questions we will know the answer to before the draft.

Feb 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

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I'm a fan of moving out of the first, I don't think there is much of a diffrence between the 30th in the first and the 15th in the 2nd unless there is a player there you REALLY want.

Rather have Boldin for 1-2 more seasons than Whitner for 2-4 more seasons, the way the refs throw flags at Whitner and his brain farts in coverage I'd rather bring in a vet on a stop gap or draft a rookie and let him prove himself. If you want me to be honest, if we can improve the four man pass rush then I could care less who we have at safety.

Feb 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM

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Why are people so afraid of losing Whitner? He's average at best. Rogers and Whitner have been the defense's weak link for the past 2 years. Just because Whitner didn't have as terrible a year as the previous one, people want him back? Not only is he terrible at coverage, he also has limited physical tools even if he's in a position to make a play. He's short with short arms and has terrible ball skills. As for tackling, he doesn't wrap up. Goes for the big hit. Gets penalized even if the play is clean. Am I the only one sick of his "contributions?" Mediocrity will not win us a superbowl. Resigning him as a starter just means we accept being mediocre.

[ Edited by kronik on Feb 5, 2014 at 4:29 PM ]

Feb 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by kronik:
Why are people so afraid of losing Whitner? He's average at best. Rogers and Whitner have been the defense's weak link for the past 2 years. Just because Whitner didn't have as terrible a year as the previous one, people want him back? Not only is he terrible at coverage, he also has limited physical tools even if he's in a position to make a play. He's short with short arms and has terrible ball skills. As for run tackling, he doesn't wrap up. Goes for the big hit. Gets penalized even if the play is clean. Am I the only one sick of his "contributions?" Mediocrity will not win us a superbowl. Resigning him as a starter just means we accept being mediocre.

I agree. Let's move on to younger, cheaper replacements,

Feb 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM

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Ok, I understand that the majority of people feel that Boldin is coming back. Let's just assume that he doesn't - how do people feel about these picks? By the way in the case that whitner doesn't come back and Boldin does, my early pick for a replacement would have to be either Buchanon in the 2nd, Ward in the 2nd, or Loston in the 3rd.

Feb 5, 2014 at 5:43 PM

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Originally posted by Timdiz:
Ok, I understand that the majority of people feel that Boldin is coming back. Let's just assume that he doesn't - how do people feel about these picks? By the way in the case that whitner doesn't come back and Boldin does, my early pick for a replacement would have to be either Buchanon in the 2nd, Ward in the 2nd, or Loston in the 3rd.

If we lose Boldin we need to draft 2 WR's early and your 2nd one is more of a returner. Don't think he will go in the 4th. Right now he projects to the 6th-7th round range but that could change after the combine.

Feb 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM

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Not really sure how the team gets better in this scenario. Losing Whitner and Boldin both leave huge holes in each unit. The draft doesn't provide any ready talent to replace either of them right now. Fuller is coming off of an injury and Moncreif is more than likely a year away from producing. Danario Alexander has chronic knee problems and shouldn't even be in play for our future.

- Resign Whitner and Boldin. This is feasible through restructures of Gore/Vernon and the release of an aging Carlos Rogers. Boldin may get a one year deal which would free up money in '15 for Crabtree.

- Trade the third from the Titans and our fourth to the Dolphins (19 overall). Take Justin Gilbert with that pick.

- Take Davante Adams with the first second rounder. He is a great red zone target and will take over once Boldin is gone in '15.

[ Edited by RumorHasIt on Feb 5, 2014 at 6:48 PM ]