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Phoenix49ers Mock Draft V4.0
Jan 6, 2014 at 10:24 AM
- Cooper22
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You do a great job of hyping prospects with threads before your mock drafts lol. Good draft though, would be very pleased, definitely have some underrated prospects there.. Only thing is, I see Robinson and Latimer as kind of the same type of receiver. Did you want to draft 2 of the same type or do you see them having different strengths and weaknesses?
Jan 6, 2014 at 10:31 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Cooper22:
You do a great job of hyping prospects with threads before your mock drafts lol. Good draft though, would be very pleased, definitely have some underrated prospects there.. Only thing is, I see Robinson and Latimer as kind of the same type of receiver. Did you want to draft 2 of the same type or do you see them having different strengths and weaknesses?
Different strengths and weaknesses. I see Robinson as a technician, very precise route runner, a classic possession receiver. I see Latimer as more explosive, faster, a better downfield threat but a more raw route runner. Both have great hands and I see Latimer as having a somewhat higher ceiling. Robinson however, in the worst case scenario of Boldin walking, seems like he could be a steady contributor as a rookie to go along with Crabtree and Patton.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 6, 2014 at 10:39 AM ]
Jan 6, 2014 at 10:38 AM
- kronik
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Nice job as always
Jan 6, 2014 at 10:45 AM
- Cooper22
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Cooper22:
You do a great job of hyping prospects with threads before your mock drafts lol. Good draft though, would be very pleased, definitely have some underrated prospects there.. Only thing is, I see Robinson and Latimer as kind of the same type of receiver. Did you want to draft 2 of the same type or do you see them having different strengths and weaknesses?
Different strengths and weaknesses. I see Robinson as a technician, very precise route runner, a classic possession receiver. I see Latimer as more explosive, faster, a better downfield threat but a more raw route runner. Both have great hands and I see Latimer as having a somewhat higher ceiling. Robinson however, in the worst case scenario of Boldin walking, seems like he could be a steady contributor as a rookie to go along with Crabtree and Patton.
Great thanks, guess I just saw Robinson as more of a downfield threat
Jan 6, 2014 at 10:53 AM
- Paul_Hofer
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More speed please. Two more possession receivers?
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:00 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
More speed please. Two more possession receivers?
That would be my only critique of this mock as well. As much as I like Robinson, I think we need to add a play-making vertical threat at WR in this draft. IMO, a combination of Beckham/Latimer or Robinson/Brandin Cooks would be ideal.
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:01 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
More speed please. Two more possession receivers?
I was putting this together with the mindset that Boldin likely won't return. If that is the case, you want someone who is ready to contribute and Robinson is that guy while providing more speed than Boldin. Latimer is solid, speed-wise he's probably a 4.45 or so, good downfield threat, rarely got caught from behind, a nice guy to develop as a redzone threat. Both Robinson and Latimer are guys you can throw it up to and have them come down with it. That would give you a receiving group of guys who all have outstanding hands, who attack the ball in the air and can come up with some pretty crazy catches.
I'm also open to other receivers such as Beckham and of course Moncrief, but I like that Robinson was able to be productive, regardless of who was at QB and knowing that team's primarily were focusing on shutting him down. He made plays anyways, so I do like him a lot. Latimer I think has a huge ceiling, he plays faster than his actual speed might indicate and he showed little trouble getting behind defenses regularly.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 6, 2014 at 11:07 AM ]
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:12 AM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
That would be my only critique of this mock as well. As much as I like Robinson, I think we need to add a play-making vertical threat at WR in this draft. IMO, a combination of Beckham/Latimer or Robinson/Brandin Cooks would be ideal.
Overall good mock but I don't think Larsen will make it out of the 3rd
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Overall good mock but I don't think Larsen will make it out of the 3rd
Possibly, but I see the following centers going before him:
Swanson
Richburg
Harrison
Stork
Stone
I could see him dropping into the 4th round, early to mid 4th, 49ers might have to trade up a bit for him but he's a guy who definitely could go lower than expected.
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM
- communist
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if patton goes down, the only speed we can provide, comes from lmj and VD. that is not very sufficient, imo.
however, good mock, imo. i do like the murray pick in the 3rd because i think he could be gone very soon after this pick.
edit: another NT and even a beefy one? i mean, i dont care about 7th round but honestly i dont get. if he is a run-stuffer ONLY, we would telegraph our assumptions to the offense.
unless you expect that tomsula can coach him up to be a dual-threat.
however, good mock, imo. i do like the murray pick in the 3rd because i think he could be gone very soon after this pick.
edit: another NT and even a beefy one? i mean, i dont care about 7th round but honestly i dont get. if he is a run-stuffer ONLY, we would telegraph our assumptions to the offense.
unless you expect that tomsula can coach him up to be a dual-threat.
[ Edited by communist on Jan 6, 2014 at 11:31 AM ]
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:29 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by communist:
if patton goes down, the only speed we can provide, comes from lmj and VD. that is not very sufficient, imo.
however, good mock, imo. i do like the murray pick in the 3rd because i think he could be gone very soon after this pick.
Latimer is faster than Patton. Robinson might be slightly slower but not by much. I'm guessing a 4.55 or so for him.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 6, 2014 at 11:31 AM ]
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:33 AM
- communist
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can latimer play in the slot efficiently? could he do some damage in the screen game?Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Latimer is faster than Patton. Robinson might be slightly slower but not by much. I'm guessing a 4.55 or so for him.
Jan 6, 2014 at 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by communist:
can latimer play in the slot efficiently? could he do some damage in the screen game?
I'm not sure why you'd put Latimer in the slot, remember, Crabtree played out of the slot quite a bit last season. Indiana did move him all over the field, but he mostly is an outside WR. My main thought on Robinson and Latimer is............what if the 49ers lose both Boldin and Crabtree. If that were to happen, I still think that Patton, Robinson and Latimer can form a pretty good NFL receiving corps. If Crabtree sticks around, so much the better, if Boldin does, even better.
Jan 6, 2014 at 12:21 PM
- communist
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i see in patton a good slot guy who also has the speed to go vertical. so, i want a backup for him.
now you say, latimer has some speed and i want to know how much speed (and quickness) he REALLY possesses.
now you say, latimer has some speed and i want to know how much speed (and quickness) he REALLY possesses.